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To: bluecat6; SatinDoll; Campion; wideawake

i don’t understand, why people fight so hard, to convince others that Obama with his British citizen father, is “natural born”.
True, the constitution doesn’t define it.
WHY?
it is a short document. not a 2000 page monstrosity,
precisely because it assumes good faith understanding of BASICS, unlike you !
The founders didn’t define a LOT of basic words, because they were clearly understood. They DID read Vattel. They knew EXACTLY what “natural born” meant.
...what do the trolls think it meant?
ONLY the President is required to be natural born.
clearly, this is an stronger additional requirement.
it is ludicrous to think they were simply sloppy,
and meant native, etc.
And i firmly believe you KNOW that.
i have been reading the disinformation campaign, not just here, but in MANY other places on this issue.
this “coverup”, more than anything else, convinces me you know the truth, and that Obama IS ineligible.
His own law firm he worked at, published a paper years ago, that supports this. The paper didn’t argue it. Instead, it said the law was outdated and should be changed. (but it has been largely scrubbed also.)


31 posted on 05/23/2011 6:24:11 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Elendur
(1) Vattel is one of many authorities cited by legal theorists on these questions, not the sole authority in the universe.

(2) Vattel wrote from the perspective of code law and not common law.

(3) Vattel's works were still being revised and updated from his posthumous notes and addenda years after the Constitution was ratified.

(4) The laws of various European states at the time of ratification and the final English edition of Vattel (1797) regarding ius sanguinis and ius soli were, to put it mildly, a patchwork.

32 posted on 05/23/2011 6:39:51 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Elendur

These people are evil. It really is that simple.


36 posted on 05/23/2011 7:14:17 AM PDT by wintertime
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