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SWAT entry questioned in Marine's death
KGUN9 ^ | 5/13/2011 | Joel Waldman

Posted on 05/13/2011 10:39:22 PM PDT by petitfour

TUCSON, Ariz. (KGUN9-TV) - A decorated Marine's family cannot believe their loved one, who served two tours of duty overseas, is gone; never expecting him to die here at home at the hands of law enforcement.

A Pima County Sheriff's Department SWAT team shot and killed Jose Guerena eight days ago; it was executing a search warrant. Four days ago, in a news conference, a sheriff's deputy said the department makes it clear when SWAT is about to enter a home. Lt. Michael O'Connor says SWAT says it never wants to be mistaken for other people, "We had our large armored vehicle there with the markings on it. It also has lights and sirens. It was going. So we do everything we can to try to portray the image that we're law enforcement, we're not home invaders."

But, Guerena's wife, Vanessa, who hid in the closet with her youngest son while 71 rounds were fired her husband's direction, said she heard nothing. At any point did you hear them yell, ‘police" or ‘SWAT'?" KGUN9 asked. "No, no!" answered Guerena.

A neighbor who heard the shooting corroborates the wife's account, "The only sirens I heard out here were like maybe 20-30 minutes into the entire ordeal," said David Watson.

Watson is very familiar with gunfire and stressful situations; he's a Vietnam combat veteran, "I want to make this as clear as possible: you only heard the announcements after you heard the gunfire?" asked KGUN9 reporter Joel Waldman. Watson quickly answered, "Yes!"

(Excerpt) Read more at kgun9.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
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To: TigersEye
I'd like to know how much cash is too much cash to keep at home. Hmmm? Does gold and silver qualify as suspicious as well and how much of that can a citizen have in their home? And is that all they need to make the drug conspiracy charge? No drugs necessary?

Actually, under asset forfeiture, any money, valuables can be seized. Your assets have no civil rights, so you have to prove they are innocent. Generally that means let them keep half and go the F#%k away.

21 posted on 05/14/2011 2:59:45 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: petitfour

Life in Prison for the whole bunch, including the Judge,Sheriff,DA and every last stinking jack booted thug involved right up to the Clerk that stamped the so called never seen warrant.


22 posted on 05/14/2011 5:41:43 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Talisker; MplsSteve; VeniVidiVici; HiTech RedNeck; sand88; Tainan; jonascord; ...

“...SWAT teams have become like WWII Buzz Bombs over London...” and “...jakboot insanity..”

No, actually, a better WWII analogy would be Gestapo and SS Einsatzgruppen smashing in doors, looking for “enemies of the State” and killing everything that shows even the slightest resistance in the house.

Buzz Bombs were just sort of “thrown” across the channel, not knowing where they’d land. This is focused, directed, and intentional. And you are correct - the Jackboot IS here, now. And they’re bold and arrogant because they’re invincible in their nice shiny black uniforms, body armor and riot shields, and little German submachine guns - they think.

Complaints and indignation won’t reverse this course we’re on. I’m sure the Jews and other “enemies of the State” in Germany were indignant too - as they were being led away to gas chambers or just before they were shot dead and murdered in their beds.

Why is it NOT murder when SWAT teams shoot the wrong person?


23 posted on 05/14/2011 7:26:28 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: MplsSteve
Jackbooted thugs, the Clinton years...


24 posted on 05/14/2011 7:30:01 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Stay focused: Debt, Deficits, Immigration.)
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To: newzjunkey

I remember wondering about that picture years ago when it first showed up. Does a SWAT team always have a photographer with them?


25 posted on 05/14/2011 7:32:26 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Tainan
"This was done in order to ensure that there were no injured persons in those residences as a result of the shooting."

Yeah....they were so worried about the wounded that they kept medical personnel out of the area for over an hour.

26 posted on 05/14/2011 7:34:59 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Talisker
This is jackboot insanity, nothing less. This is what generations of American died fighting to prevent happening here.

Through a successful, decades-long campaign of fear-mogering by the media and elected officials of both parties entrenching in the minds of Americans that there should be a "War on Everything", we've finally gotten the police force that we've collectively asked for.

And this police force looks less like Mayberry, USA and more like Bogotá, Columbia. Great job, my fellow Americans! You asked for it. You got it.

27 posted on 05/14/2011 7:46:37 AM PDT by Gena Bukin
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To: eyeamok
Life in Prison for the whole bunch, including the Judge,Sheriff,DA and every last stinking jack booted thug involved right up to the Clerk that stamped the so called never seen warrant.

Make it hard labor 7 days a week. No family visits. ALL their assets should be taken and their families thrown into the street.

Government at all levels is turning against the citizens. It is becoming the innocent patriots VS the government parasites.

28 posted on 05/14/2011 8:07:03 AM PDT by sand88
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29 posted on 05/14/2011 8:20:04 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: petitfour

“Lt. Michael O’Connor says SWAT says it never wants to be mistaken for other people,”

Then stop invading homes. Criminals can steal a uniform and call “SWAT” just as easily as your men can, O’Connor.


30 posted on 05/14/2011 8:24:07 AM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: newzjunkey
Does a SWAT team always have a photographer with them?

If I remember right, in this high-profile case the house was watched by Miami news 24/7 waiting to see what the government would do.

Some lucky photographer got the answer in spades.


31 posted on 05/14/2011 8:42:16 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The last Democrat worth a damn was Stalin. He purged his whole Party.)
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To: sand88

SWAT = standing army....

We were warned.


32 posted on 05/14/2011 9:13:11 AM PDT by glasseye
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To: petitfour

Couple this article with the one posted below and we will see what is to become of law enforcement in the future.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2719736/posts


33 posted on 05/14/2011 9:18:13 AM PDT by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: petitfour
Time for operation CounterSWAT!
34 posted on 05/14/2011 2:43:21 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: MileHi

Doesn’t the require that they find something that is actually illegal?


35 posted on 05/14/2011 4:08:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

No. They can “suspect”, and confiscate the “proceeds” of illegal activity. Mant times charges are never filed because there is not enough evidence and you have certain rights in a criminal trial. Your property has no rights, and you must go to civil court and prove your property is “innocent”.

http://fear.org/


36 posted on 05/14/2011 4:18:24 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Ditter

That is a BATF agent and the photographer was with the Elian Gonzalez family.


37 posted on 05/14/2011 4:18:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: MileHi

Mant times = Many times


38 posted on 05/14/2011 4:20:14 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: TigersEye

Tyranny
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39 posted on 05/14/2011 4:21:37 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: TigersEye

Actually, he was an INS agent. ATF would have just burnt down the ‘compound.’


40 posted on 05/14/2011 4:22:45 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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