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McCain: If U.S. uses torture, nation will suffer (US in Afghanistan for "rest of the 21st century")
CBS News ^ | 2011-05-13 | David S. Morgan

Posted on 05/13/2011 6:01:53 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

Sen. John McCain, the Arizona Republican who was a prisoner of war in North Vietnam for five and a half years, has rejected the argument that torture was necessary to successfully combat terrorism - and denied claims that waterboarding detainees provided intelligence that helped end the manhunt for Osama bin Laden.

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On CBS' "The Early Show" Friday, McCain denied claims made by Rep. Peter King, the Republican chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, who said earlier this week that through the use of such tactics, a courier for the al Qaeda leader was identified.

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"Through normal, conventional interrogation techniques - and by the way I've seen it in Bagram - and with without these enhanced interrogation techniques, we can get more accurate, more valuable information," McCain continued. "And most importantly, preserve our commitments by our Constitution, by the Geneva Conventions, and by other agreements, that we will not practice cruel and inhumane treatment on people who are in our custody."

McCain said the example America sets for the world - including our treatment of prisoners - is important.

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"We didn't do it to the Japanese war criminals," he said. "We didn't do it to the Nazi war criminals. And think of what would happen if in another conflict an enemy, not a terrorist organization, takes Americans prisoner, then obviously they will feel that they could do the same thing that we have practiced."

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"And to somehow think we can now withdraw from Afghanistan and not have to worry any more - we're finding out as recently as yesterday that we are having problems with home-grown terrorists. So the struggle is going to go on for the rest of the 21st century.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 112th; afghanistan; afpak; bho44; endlesswars; mccain; mccaintruthfile; mcinsane; mclame; rino; torture; traitormccain; vichy; vichyrino; war4ever; warmonger
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1 posted on 05/13/2011 6:01:57 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

The real problem here is the DEFINITION of torture.


2 posted on 05/13/2011 6:03:18 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: rabscuttle385

Waterboard McCain. I’m pretty sure he hides high treason.


3 posted on 05/13/2011 6:05:37 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ugh. Juan McCain is living proof that torture works.


4 posted on 05/13/2011 6:07:56 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: rabscuttle385
"We didn't do it to the Japanese war criminals," he said. "We didn't do it to the Nazi war criminals."

Stupid thing for him to say. By the time we had Japanese and Nazi war criminals in hand, the war was over. They were subjected to trials, then jailed or executed.

5 posted on 05/13/2011 6:08:41 AM PDT by edpc (Tagline under construction: Your American Recovery and Reinvestment Act dollars at work.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Per SOP, Juan McLame shows us once again, exactly why he was such a lousy candidate for POTUS.


6 posted on 05/13/2011 6:08:41 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: DoughtyOne; Liz; AuntB; calcowgirl; Bokababe; Arthur Wildfire! March; stockpirate; indylindy; ...
"And to somehow think we can now withdraw from Afghanistan and not have to worry any more - we're finding out as recently as yesterday that we are having problems with home-grown terrorists. So the struggle is going to go on for the rest of the 21st century."

Stay in Afghanistan "for the rest of the 21st century"?!!

Hell no!

7 posted on 05/13/2011 6:08:56 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: SumProVita

No, the real problem here is that McCain is in denial and never admit that torture, specifically water boarding, did in fact provide information that when put together with all the other pieces of the puzzle, allowed for the location and subsequent killing of UBL.


8 posted on 05/13/2011 6:09:08 AM PDT by cranked
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To: rabscuttle385

It is way past time for McCain to go.


9 posted on 05/13/2011 6:10:13 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: cranked

I maintain that the problem IS connected to the definition of torture. My husband was waterbaorded as part of his Navy survival training and does not consider it torture. Also, look at the traditional definition of torture.


10 posted on 05/13/2011 6:15:51 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: rabscuttle385

MeInsane is now calling Rep. Peter King a liar? Niiiice.


11 posted on 05/13/2011 6:22:06 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (Beware the ENEMEDIA ... Never Again! Support our Troops!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Oh, how I would LOVE to waterboard McCain.


12 posted on 05/13/2011 6:22:44 AM PDT by ransacked
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To: SumProVita

Does loser RINO mclame have metal plates in his head that constantly draw him in front of magnetic cameras to babble about this or that???? Just why can’t he resign and retire?


13 posted on 05/13/2011 6:22:53 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: rabscuttle385
"We didn't do it to the Japanese war criminals," he said. "We didn't do it to the Nazi war criminals."

Is he really so naive as to think prisoners captured in the field weren't often tortured to obtain intelligence during WWII? (Or any other war in the history of mankind for that matter?)

14 posted on 05/13/2011 6:25:58 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: rabscuttle385

If he truly believed that he would muzzle his wife and daughter.


15 posted on 05/13/2011 6:30:11 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: pnh102

Having to hear or see McCain is enough torture for me.


16 posted on 05/13/2011 6:31:06 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: rabscuttle385

The day John McCain passes on, I will celebrate with the same enthusiasm reserved for the passing of Ted Kennedy.


17 posted on 05/13/2011 6:32:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: edpc
Interesting ~ had to check the article to see if McCain really said that.

It's like the argument that the atom bomb was racist because we only used it on the Japanese.

That neatly glosses over the fact that Germany was already beaten down and was being carved up by the victorious allies. If we'd dropped atom bombs on Germany we'd, of course, killed our own troops. Japan was still in the war.

I can't imagine why we would torture the Nazi and Japanese War Criminals ~ they were all prisoners and the war was over.

Maybe John ought to check in with his doctor to see why he is having these unusual thoughts about torturing prisoners ~ after the war is over. Could it be a FLASH BACK to the Nam?

18 posted on 05/13/2011 6:35:27 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: circlecity

Check my #18


19 posted on 05/13/2011 6:36:31 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rabscuttle385

Wish McCain would go away and stop torturing us.


20 posted on 05/13/2011 6:39:20 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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