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Jay Carney: Bin Laden was unarmed when shot
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/03/jay-carney-bin-laden-was-unarmed-when-shot/ ^

Posted on 05/03/2011 5:33:47 PM PDT by chessplayer

Jimmie tackled some of this earlier but here’s the vid from today’s presser for those who missed it. If the SEALs’ tactics on the ground had been as sloppy and confused as the White House’s handling of the media aftermath, Bin Laden and his crew would be dragging their bodies through the streets of Abbottabad as I write this. How did we go from “Bin Laden had a weapon and was using his wife as a human shield” to “Bin Laden was unarmed and didn’t have a human shield” in the span of 24 hours when there’s apparently helmet-cam footage of the whole raid? Surely, surely, the White House knew that conspiracy cranks and naysayers would cite every discrepancy in the official narrative as “proof” that Bin Laden’s still alive or whatever. Didn’t they … watch the video before chatting with the press?


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assassination; binladen; obama; obl; osama; unarmed; warcrimes

1 posted on 05/03/2011 5:33:49 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

So? The people in the WTC were unarmed when they were murdered.


2 posted on 05/03/2011 5:35:23 PM PDT by stboz
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To: chessplayer

If he had been sleeping soundly, he should have been taken out.


3 posted on 05/03/2011 5:38:12 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: chessplayer
"How did we go from “Bin Laden had a weapon and was using his wife as a human shield” to “Bin Laden was unarmed and didn’t have a human shield” in the span of 24 hours when there’s apparently helmet-cam footage of the whole raid?

It's called political spin, and the White House has their machine turned up to maximum rpm.

4 posted on 05/03/2011 5:40:00 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: chessplayer

According to the photo they released, Obama and his aides watched the action live. So how they could not describe what happened accurately is a mystery. Makes one wonder if they were actually watching a movie.


5 posted on 05/03/2011 5:40:02 PM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: chessplayer

I told mu nephew today that before this was over they would have the Seals on trial.

If they do we need to tear down the courthouse.

Obama is trying to take credit, it’s time he took the heat also.


6 posted on 05/03/2011 5:40:22 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: chessplayer

“I knew from past intelligence that UBL was known to be armed, his hands where hidden from view, he did not respond to orders to show his hands and surrender. I believed my life and the lives of my fellow SEALs were in real and immediate danger.”

“And he just needed killin’.”


7 posted on 05/03/2011 5:41:44 PM PDT by Molon Labbie
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To: chessplayer
At least he was given the chance to surrender.
It sure would have been great to be a fly on the wall to see how long it was from the time he said "NO" until the time the bullet forced the issue.
8 posted on 05/03/2011 5:41:47 PM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: dynachrome

Oh I disagree. Wake him up first. :-)


9 posted on 05/03/2011 5:54:08 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (How much longer can the charade last?)
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To: chessplayer
Michael Savage made quite an issue today about this very issue. He asked if it makes sense Obama didn't reach for a weapon the moment he knew the compound was under assault. He also cited reports that there were no security forces on site and asked if that made sense.

In both cases, assuming the second is true, my response is "no".

In time a number of questions about this operation are sure to emerge. These are a start.

10 posted on 05/03/2011 5:54:11 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: chessplayer
In the article:

When Benson asked the first U.S. official whether bin Laden tried to grab a weapon or physically attack a commando, the official said only, “He didn’t hold up his hands and surrender.”

That's sounds like justification to shoot to me!

11 posted on 05/03/2011 6:00:43 PM PDT by CharlyFord
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To: chessplayer
Didn’t they … watch the video before chatting with the press?

That would be, like, professional dude, you know, and adult, and establishment, and like why would he want to be all stuff and checking on what he says like it's planned out and all when we elected him to end Bush's wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya, and to close Gitmo, and not waterboard because that doesn't work, and all?

12 posted on 05/03/2011 6:03:42 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: chessplayer
There was a $25million bounty on OBL..

.....I want to know who cashed the check.

13 posted on 05/03/2011 6:29:37 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: Molon Labbie

How much I care: -——>

So, there was an article in Der Spiegel bitching and moaning about whether this action was or was not permitted under international law. We just about broke our kidneys at work laughing about this. The Germans, of course, are well-known to be the standard-bearers of international law and the treatment of civilians in war...


14 posted on 05/03/2011 6:39:00 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: CharlyFord

“He didn’t hold up his hands and surrender.”
****That’s sounds like justification to shoot to me!***

Visual identification would be all the justification needed!


15 posted on 05/03/2011 6:45:27 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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To: dynachrome
If he had been sleeping soundly, he should have been taken out.

No. I think he should have been awaken enough to fully realize he wasn't having bad dream.

16 posted on 05/03/2011 7:04:26 PM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

I assume that this Jay Carney is the carnival barker that Zero had previously referred to in one of his press conferences!


17 posted on 05/03/2011 7:35:37 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: Robwin
I assume you mean security for UBL. The reason he would not have a large bodyguard would be a large entourage would have blown his security. A compound being patrolled by armed guards would have brought suspicion from intelligence agencies from around the world. In order to hide, the compound could not appear out of the ordinary. It is possible to hide in the open. A guy in my hometown was a wiseguy on the lam from the FBI, he actually walked out of a minimum security prison. Law enforcement never caught him. For years he lived in a secret room in the basement of his own house. It did him no good thou, because about 10 years after, the police found him stuffed in a drum with two bullets in the back of his head.
An interesting supposition is that his slow communications led to his watery grave. About a week ago, a wikileaks release named the courier. UBL was without any modern communications for security reasons, and had to rely on couriers. By the time he could of learned of this release it was too late.
18 posted on 05/03/2011 7:52:53 PM PDT by gusty
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To: chessplayer

I don’t care if he was watching “Jeopardy” and eating a nutty buddy and they shot him in the back. He’s gone just like a rodent.


19 posted on 05/03/2011 9:08:59 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: chessplayer

Thoght OBL ALWAYS had an AK-47 by his side?


20 posted on 05/03/2011 9:52:14 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: gusty
About a week ago, a wikileaks release named the courier.

Is there a link to this story? I wonder if that release effected the timeline.

21 posted on 05/03/2011 11:34:05 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Stay focused on Debt, Deficits & Immigration.)
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To: B.O. Plenty
.....I want to know who cashed the check.

It was probably signed over to the Obama, 2012 campaign committee. :)

22 posted on 05/04/2011 9:42:25 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: Falcon4.0

Starnge, there was a Chinese computer generated re-enactment within hours - shown once but never again.

If I remember righly it showed the Seals entering the compound and shooting two men and then in the bedroom of Osama he was in bed and as he sat up it seemed that a some sort of missile was fired at him not a gun shot.

Since then nothing but hiding the photos and tbe body from public view.

Interesting.


23 posted on 05/16/2011 6:38:08 AM PDT by Cardhu
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