[WH Press Sec.]Carney: Americans Should Be "Appalled" By Birth Certificate "Distraction" (Video)

RealClearPolitics ^ | 4/26/2011 | Jay Carney

[mojito]

"It's an unfortunate distraction from the issues that I think most Americans care about," White House press secretary Jay Carney said about the controversy surrounding President Obama's long-form birth certificate.

[westcoastwillieg]

Carney must have a two digit IQ if he doesn’t realize that 99.999999% of our good citizens wouldn’t spend over $1mil to hide a birth certificate worth less than twenty bucks unless they have something to hide.

[presently no screen name]

Americans Should Be "Appalled" By Birth Certificate "Distraction"

Americans ARE 'Appalled' by Birth Certificate 'Defiance".

[mojito]

I'm appalled that this WH doesn't think very much of the American people.

Because what the WH calls a “distraction,” I call a Constitutional crisis, and the greatest fraud in the history of this republic.

[LostPassword]

I agree with him and look forward to Obama releasing his documents and getting us passed the distraction (I assume that’s what Carney would want). Hawaii just needs a letter from Obama, or he could probably just appear at the press conference for under a minute and give an audio/video release to the state. Even with his laser-like focus on jobs I’m sure Obama can find the time to do one of those.

[DesertRhino]

I think he’s covering up a massive academic and financial fraud.
This is also the reason his campaign was so boisterous and loud about how wildly intelligent he supposedly was. They knew the truth and were setting up his biographical storyline in a preemptive attack.

Sort of like when barney frank and Chris Dodd lead the charge on “financial reform”,,, its a protective tactic often used to cover their personal vulnerability. Classic,,,

[mjp]

It’s more than just a distraction, because if Hussein is a usurper, then he has forfeited his right to any power, and the people are absolved of any duty to obey.

[mojito]

I agree with him and look forward to Obama releasing his documents and getting us passed the distraction (I assume that’s what Carney would want).

If you watch the video, there's a point where one of the press people asks Carney why not just release the long-form, and Carney gets very testy and spiteful, saying that the issue has been resolved.

A very interesting piece of theater.

[lawley]

Not a problem. Just have bwana obama show us his birth certificate, and it immediately becomes yesterday’s news, right? Unless..

And while we’re on the subject, many Americans are APPALLED it doesn’t concern any of you at the white house that Mr. obama has spent millions of $ keeping that information from us. There’s plenty of appall-worthy matters to go around, wouldn’t you say, Mr. Carney?

[CharlesWayneCT]

I don’t understand why the press doesn’t laugh at the “distraction” argument. What, people talking about a birth certificate somehow keeps Obama from doing his job? Moreso than playing Golf dozens of times a year?

How is it a “distraction”? Wasn’t having to write a proclamation for obscure muslim holidays more of a distraction than saying “no comment” to a question?

[RummyChick]

Who asked the question???If it was Lester, it doesn’t mean much that the question was asked.

[tiki]

I am appalled, he should just show us all the real BC and put out his school transcripts and it would all be over, unless....

[Danae]

The following is a combination of three posts I just made on another thread, with the same topic. Ok lets shoot the logic down. Knock some holes in it folks!!!:
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2710803/posts?page=43#43

I am going to address something that Carney and Anderson Cooper et al gloss over. Yes, the COLB can be used for most things like getting a drivers license (Yo, Carney, a DL is NOT acceptable ID for Proving one is a Natural Born Citizen... duh). HOWEVER, there are instances in which a Long form is NECESSARY.

One instance where it is necessary is in establishing Genealogy.

Another is when it is necessary to look at the Parents place of Birth!!! That is important!!!!! Why? Because Obama’s father is British, so under the section of Parents place of Birth (”If not in U.S.A. Name Country” Boxes 6c and 8c On the Hawaiian Certificate of Live birth the name of the Long form in 1969), Obama’s father is listed as having been born in Kenya - a British commonwealth.

What is the significance of that?

Well, golly, just that it PROVES that Obama was NOT born under the Sole Jurisdiction of the United States - Is not a Natural Born Citizen because he was born under the jurisdiction of TWO nations. In the debates on the 14th Amendment, the Honorable John Bingham deliberately stated, and was unchallenged on defining a Natural Born Citizenship as having been born under the Sole Jurisdiction of the United States!

Remember, it is the SHORT FORM which is Prima Facie evidence, it serves in a court of law. Yet, it does NOT contain the information absolutely NECESSARY in determining Natural Born Citizenship!!! The evidence of Barack being born under two Jurisdictions has NOT been presented as Prima Facie Evidence!!! It is legally UNPROVEN!!

Is THIS why Obama refuses to provide it? Because once he does.... the two jurisdictions issue is literally out of the bag... and public evidence! It also proves him to be an usurper.

Barack Obama’s continued pretense in the Oval Office is 100% dependent on keeping his original Long Form Birth Certificate unpublished and unreleased! That is pure insanity.

Now, that Prima Facie evidence, the Short Form COLB only includes certain details, and does NOT include Parents Birthplace. In the case of determining Natural Born Citizenship, THE PARENTS BIRTH PLACE MUST BE KNOWN. Once it is, Obama has nothing to hide behind.

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2710803/posts?page=45#45

See post 43. It does not prove Obama a Natural Born Citizen because it does not list the birthplace of his parents.

Natural Born Citizenship is as dependent on the Parents Citizenship as it is the place of birth. Both MUST be citizens. Otherwise the child inherits the citizenship of the foreign parent, particularly when it’s Daddy’s citizenship!

Yea... the more I think about it, the more this makes sense. As long as the information which GENERATED the COLB is unpublished and formally unknown, it isn’t evidence. It could be just that simple. By relying on the COLB, it continues to successfully prevent the legal declaration that his father was British, because until it is released, it is legal hearsay?? Is that it? Could it be that simple?

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2710803/posts?page=50#50

True enough. The Short form doesn’t show the location of the PARENTS birth! That is as ESSENTIAL in determining Natural Born Citizenship as the location of the child’s birth!!!!!

A COLB doesn’t have that information does it? So the Prima Facie evidence Obama points at, doesn’t prove he is a Natural Born Citizen. It proves he has Hawaiian documents. Thats it. Only the document which GENERATED that COLB has the information needed to determine Natural Born Citizenship and that is PRECISELY what Obama does NOT want to talk about, because one MUST have two parents who are citizens at the time of birth, otherwise the child inherits that foreign Parent’s Nationality, particularly Daddy’s Nationality.

Obama REALLY does NOT want to be talking about that!

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2710803/posts?page=53#53

Read post 43. It might just be this simple. The Prima Facie evidence Obama points to does NOT have the information necessary to proving Natural Born Citizenship. This REQUIRES knowing the Parents place of birth.

Obama inherited his father’s British Nationality at birth. He states he was born under the British Nationality Act of 1948, but that is hearsay until proven by a factual document, such as a Certificate of Live Birth (long form) which the Certificate of Live Birth (COLB Short Form) does NOT have.

Maybe it really is just that simple. By presenting Prima Facie evidence, he can legally say he has Hawaiian Documents. However, sometimes you have to know what generated that COLB, and 100% of the time in determining Citizenship, it is required to establish genealogy. In fact, if Obama presented the Long Form to the British Consulate, he could claim his British Citizenship, and get a British Passport. GUARANTEED. He wouldn’t even need to apply for it, just present his Long Form.

Maybe that is literally all that the cretin is hiding, certainly from a legal standpoint it makes sense. Obama, the Constitutional “professor” would have been familiar with the debates on the 14th Amendment... in which the primary author John Bingham of Ohio states unequivocally and with out challenge, that a Natural Born Citizen is one born under the SOLE JURISDICTION of the United States. So he hides the evidence of his dual jurisdictional Birth. The COLB does not give the information NECESSARY to determine his Natural Born Status, and maybe THAT is why it has been shoved down everyone’s throat, and why he refuses to release the thing.

It might just be that simple.

[MrB]

They should follow up with
“saying the issue has been resolved did not answer my question as to why the long form hasn’t been released. Try again.”

[School of Rational Thought]

This is a distraction. The President has a full schedule of golf this weekend followed by a week of fundraising.

[FreeAtlanta]

Since when has this Whitehouse given a hoot about current issues?

They have entered with an Anti-American agenda and this distraction is messing with it. Of course they are ticked.

[mojito]

Who asked the question???

It wasn't Lester. It was one of the "good" reporters. A print guy, somebody from WaPo or AP or NYT. I didn't recognize him, but he's there on the video.

[Inyo-Mono]

Bttt.

[Mouton]

Any press worth its credentials would ask the same question, every day....is this the day the King will show us he has no clothes?

Keep it up, day by day, drip by drip until everyone starts asking, what is he hiding???

Of course, I know the LSM is exactly what it is, a bunch of shills.

[Jeff Head]

I'll tell you what Americans should be appalled about...they should be appalled that so many were snookered into electing an abject sicio-marxist into our White House who has no respect whatsoever for our Constitution or our traditional core values, and who looks on the constitution as an impediment and obstacle to enacting the fundamental change he is so anxious to bring to this country...and who is going about doing precisely that as quickly as he can.

His upbringing, his schooling, his mentors, and his record (including interviews he has held in the past) all confirm this and all need to be continually trumpeted as more and more people recognize the folly and danger he represents as a result of hois record as President...all of which was obvious to anyone who took the time to look and investigate back in 2007-2008.

The Audacity of Truth: Obama in his own words

The Audactiy of Truth: Obama's Upbringing

The Audactiy of Truth: Obama's Circle of Friends

The Audactiy of Truth: Obama and Black Liberation Theology

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY

[Stosh]

“WTF is he hiding?”

That is exactly the point.

There’s evidence that he was born in Hawaii; there’s evidence he wasn’t - I don’t know myself.

But I do know he’s hiding something, and I’d further charge that the major culprit in this deception is the media, more so than even Obama’s paid minions.

And the reason is as follows: the only reason Obama is president is because Jack Ryan was driven out of the Senate race that Obama won. And the only reason Ryan left the race is because his sealed divorce records were released.

Those divorce records didn’t have anything to do with his place of birth, his residence, his age or anything that had anything at all to do with his eligibility to run for the US senate. They were clearly and simply personal.

Yet the Chicago Tribune bust its butt to reveal what’s in them. But the same Chicago Tribune, as well as every other lamestream outlet has no curiosity whatsoever as to what’s in Obama’s long-form birth certificate.

He doesn’t want to show it to anybody, and that’s good enough for them.

Tell that to Jack Ryan.