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[NJ Gov] Christie v. Court: Is threat for real?
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 4/24/2011 | Matt Katz

Posted on 04/24/2011 11:26:09 AM PDT by PapaBear3625

Gov. Christie said last week that he had mulled defying a possible order from New Jersey's Supreme Court to restore funding to schools.

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If Christie ignores the ruling, scholars said, he could be ruled in contempt of court and personally fined, he could be impeached for violating his oath of office, or he could trigger a constitutional crisis and the statewide closing of schools.

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The current case had its origins nearly 40 years ago. The nonprofit Education Law Center sued the state for more money for poor schools, saying equitable funding was a right under the state constitution because of a provision, approved by voters in 1875, mandating a "thorough and efficient" education.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: 0bama; 0pansy; 0ponzi; afewjudgesmustdie; afewjusticesmustdie; christie; courts; obama; opansy; oponzi; pansy; ponzi; schools; thepelicanbrief; yomama
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The NJ Supreme Court is expected to issue a decision telling Christie to better-fund low-income school districts. On a radio show, the host asked Christie if he could just ignore the court, and Christie replied that that was an option that he had thought of.

Sounds like the Philly Inky is blowing this up a bit in order to force the gov to declare the option is not on the table, but if Christie DID tell the NJ court to stuff it, it would be REALLY interesting.

The NJ Supreme Court is just one of three branches of NJ government. If they can order the other two branches, then what is the point of the other two branches?

1 posted on 04/24/2011 11:26:13 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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This is why I will never live in NJ. The entitlement attitude extends to all parts of the state, including the entitlement to a “thorough and efficient” education. Move out of the state folks. Starve it to death by having no one to tax.

JoMa


2 posted on 04/24/2011 11:28:54 AM PDT by joma89
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To: PapaBear3625
"On a radio show, the host asked Christie if he could just ignore the court, and Christie replied that that was an option that he had thought of."

However, the MSM and the libs are just fine with the Obama administration ignoring the DOMA.

3 posted on 04/24/2011 11:38:54 AM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: PapaBear3625
The poorest performing school districts in the state already have among the highest spending per pupil. Shouldn't the ruling mandate diverting funds away from the urban districts to the suburban districts?


4 posted on 04/24/2011 11:41:46 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: PapaBear3625

Only if Christie backs down.


5 posted on 04/24/2011 11:41:46 AM PDT by yup2394871293
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Unless the NJ Constitution grants the Court the power to make or change law, the governor can ignore any court ruling that oversteps the bounds of the Courth’s authority. As is clearly the case here.


6 posted on 04/24/2011 11:41:53 AM PDT by sourcery (If true=false, then there would be no constraints on what is possible. Hence, the world exists.)
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To: PapaBear3625

The court will “win” this battle but the people of New Jersey will lose and eventually education as a whole will suffer.

We are coming to the end game of the Socialist Ponzi Scheme. So many have been promised so much, yet the money is running out.

So the courts will order more money spent on schools, that money will have to come from somewhere. Other functions will have to be cut or taxes will have to be raised.

As someone pointed out on another thread, the United States is reaching a tipping point. It is going to get ugly before all this is over.


7 posted on 04/24/2011 11:44:16 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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This is why lesser nations end-up with dictators.

We’re not Argentina.


8 posted on 04/24/2011 11:50:35 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Sooth2222
The NJ COnstitution has:
“The Legislature shall provide for the maintenance and support of a thorough and efficient system of free public schools for the instruction of all the children in the State between the ages of five and eighteen years.”
The NJ Supreme Court has interpreted that as meaning that all students should have equal performance, which is insane and which results in a futile quest to improve inner-city performance.

An objective reading of "efficient" would result in funding being focused on those students who are most likely to become taxpayers, rather than on those least likely to be self-supporting, regardless of their educational funding.

9 posted on 04/24/2011 11:51:48 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: sourcery
Unless the NJ Constitution grants the Court the power to make or change law, the governor can ignore any court ruling that oversteps the bounds of the Courth’s authority. As is clearly the case here.

This. The New Jersey Supreme Court should not have the authority to write the state budget.

10 posted on 04/24/2011 11:59:43 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("It's hard to take the president seriously." - Jim DeMint)
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All Christie has to do, according to the old ruling, is make school funding “equitable”, ie., slice up the state’s available pie in equal pieces. If the court tries to tell Christie to simply “increase funding”, then that is something new and is a leap from the old “equitable” ruling.

...In which case Christie BETTER tell the scumbags in black robes to go play in the street.
That ain’t their job.


11 posted on 04/24/2011 12:03:28 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Just add $1 to each school’s budget. Then let them sue again. Rinse and repeat.


12 posted on 04/24/2011 12:04:08 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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Funding is diverted from middle class and affluent school districts to poor districts pursuant to court order and it has equalized nothing.The Newark NJ school system spends more more capita on students than any school district in the country and has among the lowest scores in the nation.


13 posted on 04/24/2011 12:13:16 PM PDT by chuckee
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Exactly. If justice wants to execute policy, this would illustrate the fallacy.


14 posted on 04/24/2011 12:16:54 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: PapaBear3625

Similarly, oil rich states should tell the federal government to stuff it and go ahead and authorize drilling on their own.


15 posted on 04/24/2011 12:28:12 PM PDT by Salvey
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To: PapaBear3625
Ignoring courts is anarchy.
16 posted on 04/24/2011 12:58:50 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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Seems like the first place to find the money is cutting all funding to the Supreme Court.


17 posted on 04/24/2011 1:09:05 PM PDT by RWAubrey ("Men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their b)
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And if he does defy the court, he’ll be just like Obamao defying the Florida court decision against Obamaocare.


18 posted on 04/24/2011 1:11:40 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Follow me on Twitter @mpetrie98)
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“Ignoring courts is anarchy.”

Not necessarily, if the Gov has a very good constitutional basis to telling the court to shove it and the people in general buy that then no. It does however, make it easier to ignore the court on something that although unpopular is constitutional and THAT slippery slope WILL lead to a dictatorship. Right now I’d say we have a dictatorship of judicial rulings and there needs to be put in place a way to nullify a courts rulings by either the Gov, the legislature or both.


19 posted on 04/24/2011 1:12:09 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: PapaBear3625

This writer is the full time ‘dig up dirt on Christie” twit.
seriously!


20 posted on 04/24/2011 1:13:03 PM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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