Posted on 04/22/2011 6:36:20 PM PDT by RobinMasters
Donald Trump, fresh from a Gallup poll showing him tied with former Gov. Mike Huckabee for the lead in the Republican race for the White House, is firing back at GOP strategist Karl Rove for calling Trump a "joke candidate."
Trump, who says that Rove has proven himself to be out of touch with Americans, released the following statement to Newsmax:
"Karl Rove is a loser. He is doing the Republican Party a great disservice by trying to stop the discussion about the president not being able to present his birth certificate to the American people – or to assure the American people as to his place of birth. This is a great issue for Republicans, and I can tell you that the president is spending millions of dollars fighting this issue and he doesn't like it at all.
"I also have great respect for the states considering legislation that would require a birth certificate, not a certificate of live birth, be mandatory in order for a candidate to appear on a presidential ballot in their state.
"Karl Rove should go into retirement where he belongs. The old machinery is broken, and new and much smarter blood is needed."
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Trump is doing the job that Republicans wont do.
Wonder if we should call the anti-Birthers “Rovers”
Trump is 100% correct on Rove. There is no debate on this one.
born June 14, 1946 in Queens, New York, NY (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)
Parents were
Frederick Christ Trump, born October 11, 1905 in Queens, NY, died June 1999 in Queens, NY
Mary Ann MacLeod, born May 10, 1912 in SCOTLAND, died August 7, 2000 in Queens, NY. Arrived in US October 5, 1935. Naturalized as a US Citizen March 10, 1942.
Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)
Donald Trump is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN unlike Comrade Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.
“Karl Rove should go into retirement where he belongs. The old machinery is broken, and new and much smarter blood is needed.”
I must say, Trump certainly has a gift for putting down losers.
Good idea ! You have my vote.
yep
...fresh from a Gallup poll showing him tied with former Gov. Mike Huckabee for the lead in the Republican race for the White House...
*snort* chuckle, chuckle
Trump is correct on Karl Rove. Hand written slates will only take you so far. My iphone works so much better.
I agree with trump too. btw who is hiring rove besides fox?
Oh Yeh. Rove just could not help himself. He had to go down Rosie O’Donnell’s road. The ghetto beatdown begins. LOL!!!
“Wonder if we should call the anti-Birthers “Rovers””
I like that...let’s see if we can do it.
Not a Trump fan, but that line is a keeper.
Don’t fight, boys! You both suck.
I never thought much of Trump but my opinion of him is growing nicely to say the least. And he is right, Toyko Rove needs to go away forever.
I read this lately... someone coined them as the "Aborts".
Rove is the joke.
I heard him on Hannity’s radio show yesterday (Thursday) talking about this and it was all I could do to not toss the radio out the window when he said the Constitution only required citizenship for the Presidency.
I’m obviously not quoting exactly, and I have slept since I heard it, but his comment was just SO WRONG.
lol, I feel almost the same about hannity
I like Trump more and more. He is right about Rove. Rove’s condescending attitude toward the Birthers is so insulting.
I agree.
GO AWAY ROVE, walk away into the sunset along with others of your time.
ABOVE ALL, WE NEED NEW BLOOD!
Assuming SAD is Bummer’s mother, and the BC lists father as ‘unknown’, and, going one step further, SAD was such a mattressback that she actually did NOT know who was the father, would Bummer be an NBC? Would she, with solely her status as a US citizen, confer NBC status to Bummer if she truly did not know who the father was?
Of course, my question does not apply exclusively to the case at hand, but to any such eventuality.
Shirley you jest!
Many of our presidents have been bastards.
Rove took two slam-dunk presidential victories and wheezed them across the finish line on their last gasp. Not exactly a record to write home about.
The Jew Bear - nice!!
You were close enough, here is the exact quote
“The constitutional requirement is that you have to be a United States citizen, and by implying, saying, suggesting Obama is not a United States citizen, he is suggesting he was born somewhere else.”
Rove’s is a tough scalp to grab hold of...
If no father is listed, I would say that he couldn’t PROVE natural born status. Thus ineligible.
Yep, campaign managers and consultants often get huge credit for what goes right, and blame for what goes wrong, but it's usually impossible to prove what impact someone like Rove's wedge politics and pandering to specific groups actually has.
His pandering to Hispanics strategy was a total disaster all during the second term and during the elections of 2006 and 2008.
THAT was good!!
“Trump is doing the job that Republicans wont do.”
Someone is always doing the job Republicans won’t do. In 2010 it was the Tea Party. In 2004 it was the Swift Boat vets. If it wasn’t for the grass roots conservatives, the GOP would have went the way of the Whigs this past decade.
What do we get for our efforts? We are told to sit down and shut up after winning elections for them.
Please, Donald, you’re doing great but there’s a difference between a Certificate of Live Birth and a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth. Obama has presented ONLY a CERTIFICATION, i.e.,a piece of crap.
The eligibility question is actually much larger than just a birth certificate, natural born citizen and all that, but at least let’s get the CERTIFICATION vs CERTIFICATE language down.
Rove should retire. He’s like a prissy little boy who can’t just let go of the power he’s had. he reminds me of Carl Bernstein with his ‘no one’s scandal can ever be bigger than the scandal *I* covered.’ Karl, here’s your gold watch. Good bye.
Now THERE's a subject on which I agree 100% with Mr. Trump.
No love lost here for Tokyo Rove.
You can call us magnificent b@st@rds. That’ll work too.
I cheer Trump on tearing down Obama’s false biography.
But not as a candidate. And if he runs third party... we have another Perot.
Apparently the Donald is learning.
No, that’s where The Donald is missing the fine point. The two derivative words from ‘certify.’ A certificate of live birth is fine. It contains all the vital information. It IS a birth certificate. A certification of live birth is a minimal extract of a certificate.
What he should have said is “... that would require a birth certificate, not a certification of live birth ...”
My BC (from 1950):
I have a hospital birth certificate dated and signed by nurse superintendent ...a Dr with a seal (looks decorative to me ) It has my footprints....I assume this has no legal weight.....or does it?
No .. remember a few weeks ago, whether on purpose to make a point or not, Trump gave AbC his hospital birth certificate. For the first time the media notice that that wasn’t a REAL birth cert. The ‘real thing’ is maintained by the public office in the jurisdiction where you were born.
i.e., while Trump had his hospital issued ‘birth certificate’ the official one is maintained by the City of New York where he was born. (if he were born in NYS vs NYC, there’d be another office that held his records)
It's going to depend on a few things...Does it have a government (i.e. state or county) form number on it? If it is an "official" government form used for recording purposes and is properly completed, it has weight. Even if it is merely a local hospital form, does it have the language of an oath on it? If it does and is signed and properly notarized, it would have the same legal weight as say, an affidavit of the physician attesting to the information on the form. It may not have the full import of an actual Birth Certificate for purposes that specifically require such a document, but it could be instrumental in helping you secure one.
...................Assuming SAD is Bummer’s mother, and the BC lists father as ‘unknown’, and, going one step further,............
That’s not really an implausable theory!
Consider that young unattractive slut, Stanley Anne was really a “two-bagger”, maybe she really didn’t know which one of the crowd climbed on to her during the moment of conception of Zer0!
Was it Obama Sr? (Zero doesn’t look like him); Was it Soertho (Zer0 is too black); or could it have been family friend Frank Davis (Almost a dead ringer for Zer0 to be a spawn from this Communist’s seed).
I’ll vote for Davis, and Zer0 is paying mega bucks to keep it under wraps, lest his entire life is exposed as lying bullshit!
Rush Limbaugh is doing the job the MSM is supposed to be doing and Trump, on this issue, is doing the job Limbaugh and conservative talk show hosts should be doing.
Works for me!
We're rid of GWB, now we need to be rid of Rove.
Oh Yeh. Rove just could not help himself. He had to go down Rosie O’Donnell’s road>>>>>>>
The Donald is very creative when it comes to put downs and insults. Just ask Rosie and now Rove. Rove was two faced with The Donald.....soliciting a huge donation to Rove’s organization then unkindly dissing the Don a few months latter
Don't forget that Rove was 100% open borders when GW was President and I'm sure GW relied heavily on Rove. In contrast, The Donald says take our military and put it on our border.
Even liberals and independents would like to see our military on the border and keeping out the insane Mexican drug violence and gangsters. This will get Trump millions of votes
The Obama people fear Trump the most. He is the last Republican they want to run against. Mexicans should be afraid too because The Donald is going to seal that border
I remember back in the bloody amnesty wars on this forum and we would have to endure the steady harpy refrain of “Rove you magnificent bastsrd “ala Patton on Rommel”
Made me want to puke....now Trump is making Rove answer for being a Beltway whatever type....fun to watch
Hate Trump or love him at least he says stuff out loud some of us have felt for a long time about Bro and wobbly GOP
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