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Trump: Rove Needs to Retire
NewsMax ^ | April 21, 2011 | NewsMax

Posted on 04/22/2011 6:36:20 PM PDT by RobinMasters

Donald Trump, fresh from a Gallup poll showing him tied with former Gov. Mike Huckabee for the lead in the Republican race for the White House, is firing back at GOP strategist Karl Rove for calling Trump a "joke candidate."

Trump, who says that Rove has proven himself to be out of touch with Americans, released the following statement to Newsmax:

"Karl Rove is a loser. He is doing the Republican Party a great disservice by trying to stop the discussion about the president not being able to present his birth certificate to the American people – or to assure the American people as to his place of birth. This is a great issue for Republicans, and I can tell you that the president is spending millions of dollars fighting this issue and he doesn't like it at all.

"I also have great respect for the states considering legislation that would require a birth certificate, not a certificate of live birth, be mandatory in order for a candidate to appear on a presidential ballot in their state.

"Karl Rove should go into retirement where he belongs. The old machinery is broken, and new and much smarter blood is needed."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


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1 posted on 04/22/2011 6:36:20 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters; All

Trump is doing the job that Republicans wont do.

Wonder if we should call the anti-Birthers “Rovers”

Trump is 100% correct on Rove. There is no debate on this one.


2 posted on 04/22/2011 6:39:07 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Karl Rove = Karl Marx)
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To: RobinMasters
Donald Trump

born June 14, 1946 in Queens, New York, NY (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Frederick Christ Trump, born October 11, 1905 in Queens, NY, died June 1999 in Queens, NY
Mary Ann MacLeod, born May 10, 1912 in SCOTLAND, died August 7, 2000 in Queens, NY. Arrived in US October 5, 1935. Naturalized as a US Citizen March 10, 1942.

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Donald Trump is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN unlike Comrade Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.

3 posted on 04/22/2011 6:40:54 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: RobinMasters

“Karl Rove should go into retirement where he belongs. The old machinery is broken, and new and much smarter blood is needed.”

I must say, Trump certainly has a gift for putting down losers.


4 posted on 04/22/2011 6:43:47 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Wonder if we should call the anti-Birthers “Rovers”

Good idea ! You have my vote.

5 posted on 04/22/2011 6:43:51 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

yep


6 posted on 04/22/2011 6:47:22 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks RobinMasters.
...fresh from a Gallup poll showing him tied with former Gov. Mike Huckabee for the lead in the Republican race for the White House...

7 posted on 04/22/2011 7:00:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: RobinMasters

*snort* chuckle, chuckle


8 posted on 04/22/2011 7:04:46 PM PDT by dforest
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To: RobinMasters

Trump is correct on Karl Rove. Hand written slates will only take you so far. My iphone works so much better.


9 posted on 04/22/2011 7:08:34 PM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Trump/Palin in 2012)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

I agree with trump too. btw who is hiring rove besides fox?


10 posted on 04/22/2011 7:10:06 PM PDT by 09Patriot (your freedom to be you, includes my freedom to be from you.--Wilkow)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Oh Yeh. Rove just could not help himself. He had to go down Rosie O’Donnell’s road. The ghetto beatdown begins. LOL!!!


11 posted on 04/22/2011 7:12:01 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior; RobinMasters

“Wonder if we should call the anti-Birthers “Rovers””

I like that...let’s see if we can do it.


12 posted on 04/22/2011 7:12:26 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: Cicero
“Karl Rove should go into retirement where he belongs. The old machinery is broken, and new and much smarter blood is needed.”

Not a Trump fan, but that line is a keeper.

13 posted on 04/22/2011 7:12:43 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Put Obie in a dress and call him "The Last Queen of Scotland".)
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To: RobinMasters

Don’t fight, boys! You both suck.


14 posted on 04/22/2011 7:14:01 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I never thought much of Trump but my opinion of him is growing nicely to say the least. And he is right, Toyko Rove needs to go away forever.


15 posted on 04/22/2011 7:16:50 PM PDT by fuzzybutt (Democrat Lawyers are the root of all evil.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Wonder if we should call the anti-Birthers “Rovers”

I read this lately... someone coined them as the "Aborts".

16 posted on 04/22/2011 7:17:17 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: RobinMasters

Rove is the joke.

I heard him on Hannity’s radio show yesterday (Thursday) talking about this and it was all I could do to not toss the radio out the window when he said the Constitution only required citizenship for the Presidency.

I’m obviously not quoting exactly, and I have slept since I heard it, but his comment was just SO WRONG.


17 posted on 04/22/2011 7:25:55 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz

lol, I feel almost the same about hannity


18 posted on 04/22/2011 7:27:15 PM PDT by 09Patriot (your freedom to be you, includes my freedom to be from you.--Wilkow)
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To: RobinMasters

I like Trump more and more. He is right about Rove. Rove’s condescending attitude toward the Birthers is so insulting.


19 posted on 04/22/2011 7:33:13 PM PDT by Norman Arbuthnot
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Trump is 100% correct on Rove. There is no debate on this one.

I agree.

20 posted on 04/22/2011 7:37:53 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Some crazy cyber stalker put me on his hate list.)
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To: All
Geee... I must say I think Trump is nothing more than a "Mimbo" with nice hair (like another we all know?)... but on this one, I am with him.... Rove time has passed... He is one those trying to move the Rep party to the Left... to the "homo" side... along with Mr Smith and others political handlers of his ilk

GO AWAY ROVE, walk away into the sunset along with others of your time.

ABOVE ALL, WE NEED NEW BLOOD!

21 posted on 04/22/2011 7:39:11 PM PDT by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church in protecting our culture from perversion is ** DEAFENING **)
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To: ASA Vet

Assuming SAD is Bummer’s mother, and the BC lists father as ‘unknown’, and, going one step further, SAD was such a mattressback that she actually did NOT know who was the father, would Bummer be an NBC? Would she, with solely her status as a US citizen, confer NBC status to Bummer if she truly did not know who the father was?

Of course, my question does not apply exclusively to the case at hand, but to any such eventuality.


22 posted on 04/22/2011 7:41:08 PM PDT by punchamullah
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To: punchamullah
Would she, with solely her status as a US citizen, confer NBC status to Bummer if she truly did not know who the father was?

Shirley you jest!

Many of our presidents have been bastards.

23 posted on 04/22/2011 7:52:21 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month...April.)
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To: RobinMasters
They all can retire for all I care.


24 posted on 04/22/2011 7:58:54 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: RobinMasters

Rove took two slam-dunk presidential victories and wheezed them across the finish line on their last gasp. Not exactly a record to write home about.


25 posted on 04/22/2011 8:02:51 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: All
"Trump: Rove Needs to Retire"

Donald Trump: You
Magnificent Inglorious Bastard !!

26 posted on 04/22/2011 8:08:04 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: musicman

The Jew Bear - nice!!


27 posted on 04/22/2011 8:22:56 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Gabz

You were close enough, here is the exact quote

“The constitutional requirement is that you have to be a United States citizen, and by implying, saying, suggesting Obama is not a United States citizen, he is suggesting he was born somewhere else.”


28 posted on 04/22/2011 8:26:56 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: DTogo

29 posted on 04/22/2011 8:27:06 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: musicman

Rove’s is a tough scalp to grab hold of...


30 posted on 04/22/2011 8:29:24 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: punchamullah

If no father is listed, I would say that he couldn’t PROVE natural born status. Thus ineligible.


31 posted on 04/22/2011 8:29:56 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: OrangeHoof
Rove took two slam-dunk presidential victories and wheezed them across the finish line on their last gasp. Not exactly a record to write home about.

Yep, campaign managers and consultants often get huge credit for what goes right, and blame for what goes wrong, but it's usually impossible to prove what impact someone like Rove's wedge politics and pandering to specific groups actually has.

His pandering to Hispanics strategy was a total disaster all during the second term and during the elections of 2006 and 2008.

32 posted on 04/22/2011 8:39:00 PM PDT by Will88
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To: DTogo

THAT was good!!

33 posted on 04/22/2011 8:46:34 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

“Trump is doing the job that Republicans wont do.”

Someone is always doing the job Republicans won’t do. In 2010 it was the Tea Party. In 2004 it was the Swift Boat vets. If it wasn’t for the grass roots conservatives, the GOP would have went the way of the Whigs this past decade.

What do we get for our efforts? We are told to sit down and shut up after winning elections for them.


34 posted on 04/22/2011 8:48:18 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (We live two lives, the life we learn and the life we live with after that.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Please, Donald, you’re doing great but there’s a difference between a Certificate of Live Birth and a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth. Obama has presented ONLY a CERTIFICATION, i.e.,a piece of crap.

The eligibility question is actually much larger than just a birth certificate, natural born citizen and all that, but at least let’s get the CERTIFICATION vs CERTIFICATE language down.

Rove should retire. He’s like a prissy little boy who can’t just let go of the power he’s had. he reminds me of Carl Bernstein with his ‘no one’s scandal can ever be bigger than the scandal *I* covered.’ Karl, here’s your gold watch. Good bye.


35 posted on 04/22/2011 8:54:35 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: RobinMasters
Trump: Rove Needs to Retire

Now THERE's a subject on which I agree 100% with Mr. Trump.

No love lost here for Tokyo Rove.

36 posted on 04/22/2011 8:58:04 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

You can call us magnificent b@st@rds. That’ll work too.


37 posted on 04/22/2011 9:22:31 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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I cheer Trump on tearing down Obama’s false biography.

But not as a candidate. And if he runs third party... we have another Perot.


38 posted on 04/22/2011 9:33:00 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: EDINVA
From the article..."I also have great respect for the states considering legislation that would require a birth certificate, not a certificate of live birth, be mandatory in order for a candidate to appear on a presidential ballot in their state."

Apparently the Donald is learning.

39 posted on 04/22/2011 9:41:24 PM PDT by AmusedBystander ("There is no such thing as a good tax." Winston Churchill)
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To: AmusedBystander

No, that’s where The Donald is missing the fine point. The two derivative words from ‘certify.’ A certificate of live birth is fine. It contains all the vital information. It IS a birth certificate. A certification of live birth is a minimal extract of a certificate.

What he should have said is “... that would require a birth certificate, not a certification of live birth ...”


40 posted on 04/22/2011 9:53:37 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

My BC (from 1950):

I have a hospital birth certificate dated and signed by nurse superintendent ...a Dr with a seal (looks decorative to me ) It has my footprints....I assume this has no legal weight.....or does it?


41 posted on 04/22/2011 10:05:54 PM PDT by woofie
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To: woofie

No .. remember a few weeks ago, whether on purpose to make a point or not, Trump gave AbC his hospital birth certificate. For the first time the media notice that that wasn’t a REAL birth cert. The ‘real thing’ is maintained by the public office in the jurisdiction where you were born.

i.e., while Trump had his hospital issued ‘birth certificate’ the official one is maintained by the City of New York where he was born. (if he were born in NYS vs NYC, there’d be another office that held his records)


42 posted on 04/22/2011 10:14:29 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: woofie
"I have a hospital birth certificate dated and signed by nurse superintendent ...a Dr with a seal (looks decorative to me ) It has my footprints....I assume this has no legal weight.....or does it?"

It's going to depend on a few things...Does it have a government (i.e. state or county) form number on it? If it is an "official" government form used for recording purposes and is properly completed, it has weight. Even if it is merely a local hospital form, does it have the language of an oath on it? If it does and is signed and properly notarized, it would have the same legal weight as say, an affidavit of the physician attesting to the information on the form. It may not have the full import of an actual Birth Certificate for purposes that specifically require such a document, but it could be instrumental in helping you secure one.

43 posted on 04/22/2011 10:27:38 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: punchamullah

...................Assuming SAD is Bummer’s mother, and the BC lists father as ‘unknown’, and, going one step further,............

That’s not really an implausable theory!

Consider that young unattractive slut, Stanley Anne was really a “two-bagger”, maybe she really didn’t know which one of the crowd climbed on to her during the moment of conception of Zer0!

Was it Obama Sr? (Zero doesn’t look like him); Was it Soertho (Zer0 is too black); or could it have been family friend Frank Davis (Almost a dead ringer for Zer0 to be a spawn from this Communist’s seed).

I’ll vote for Davis, and Zer0 is paying mega bucks to keep it under wraps, lest his entire life is exposed as lying bullshit!


44 posted on 04/22/2011 10:50:40 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose lips sink ships!)
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To: RobinMasters
"Karl Rove is a loser. He is doing the Republican Party a great disservice by trying to stop the discussion about the president not being able to present his birth certificate to the American people – or to assure the American people as to his place of birth. This is a great issue for Republicans, and I can tell you that the president is spending millions of dollars fighting this issue and he doesn't like it at all.

Rush Limbaugh is doing the job the MSM is supposed to be doing and Trump, on this issue, is doing the job Limbaugh and conservative talk show hosts should be doing.

45 posted on 04/22/2011 11:39:22 PM PDT by RINOs suck
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
"Wonder if we should call the anti-Birthers “Rovers”"

Works for me!

46 posted on 04/22/2011 11:59:13 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Bolton, Palin, Bachmann, Cain or Trump 2012!)
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To: ElPatriota
"GO AWAY ROVE, walk away into the sunset along with others of your time. "

We're rid of GWB, now we need to be rid of Rove.

47 posted on 04/23/2011 12:04:20 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Bolton, Palin, Bachmann, Cain or Trump 2012!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Oh Yeh. Rove just could not help himself. He had to go down Rosie O’Donnell’s road>>>>>>>

The Donald is very creative when it comes to put downs and insults. Just ask Rosie and now Rove. Rove was two faced with The Donald.....soliciting a huge donation to Rove’s organization then unkindly dissing the Don a few months latter


48 posted on 04/23/2011 12:08:51 AM PDT by dennisw (nzt - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: Norman Arbuthnot
I like Trump more and more. He is right about Rove. Rove’s condescending attitude toward the Birthers is so insulting.

Don't forget that Rove was 100% open borders when GW was President and I'm sure GW relied heavily on Rove. In contrast, The Donald says take our military and put it on our border.
Even liberals and independents would like to see our military on the border and keeping out the insane Mexican drug violence and gangsters. This will get Trump millions of votes

The Obama people fear Trump the most. He is the last Republican they want to run against. Mexicans should be afraid too because The Donald is going to seal that border

49 posted on 04/23/2011 12:16:38 AM PDT by dennisw (nzt - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: RobinMasters

I remember back in the bloody amnesty wars on this forum and we would have to endure the steady harpy refrain of “Rove you magnificent bastsrd “ala Patton on Rommel”

Made me want to puke....now Trump is making Rove answer for being a Beltway whatever type....fun to watch
Hate Trump or love him at least he says stuff out loud some of us have felt for a long time about Bro and wobbly GOP


50 posted on 04/23/2011 12:30:17 AM PDT by wardaddy (ok...Trump beating on Obama---Sarah----Michelle.....any of them are ok for now---tain't picky)
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