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Michele Bachmann's bid: The what-if game. Can she win the Presidential Nomination?
The Hill ^ | 04/20/2011 | Christian Heinze

Posted on 04/20/2011 7:39:55 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: cripplecreek
You aren’t going to get enough candidates to answer the question the way you want so I think we can consider losing a foregone conclusion.

I think we can consider losing a foregone conclusion if by the time the campaigning starts if that question about our President still exists somebody in Congress is not doing their job and it just happens to be our party in control.

21 posted on 04/20/2011 8:15:50 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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22 posted on 04/20/2011 8:15:58 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: OL Hickory

RE: nah...she blew it with the george steph interview...

So, being a birther is ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT for a candidate to the total exclusion of her SOLID RECORD on ISSUE?


23 posted on 04/20/2011 8:17:11 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Artcore

This is hardball and mistakes are often fatal. If she were to come back and show ANY knowledge of the nature of the media and the nature of this birth certificate she might resurrect whatever tiny chance she had.

Trump has ONE attractive feature to me and that is he will not be buffaloed or controlled by the media because he knows exactly what it is. Where did I excuse anything he has done. In fact, I have often stated that I can’t really see him running because he could not withstand the scrutiny his past deals will be given. He has had to contribute to scummy RATs in NYC and Chicago in order to do business and I am sure there are underhanded deals with the underworld and its unions in both places as well.

All Michelle had to do was not get ambushed by Georgie Porgie, Sarah would not have. Few of us here who have familiarized ourselves with the BC issues would have shoved that fraudulent paper down the little twirps throat.

The flub about Lexington was pretty bad but this very bad.


24 posted on 04/20/2011 8:19:03 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: workerbee

She had little to no chance of getting the nomination for many reasons. Which is not to say she would not be infinitely better than Urkel or any other RAT.


25 posted on 04/20/2011 8:20:28 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: arrogantsob

So for Bachmann this is a “fatal” mistake; for Trump, years of supporting Leftists has many in this forum cheering “The Donald for President.” And all because he talks about Obama’s Birth Certificate.

Just wow.

I guess fatal mistakes don’t count for wishy-washy elites like Trump. Interesting.


26 posted on 04/20/2011 8:21:56 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: arrogantsob
A couple of weeks ago she was shown around a half dozen clips of her playing fast and loose with facts at campaign rallies and on the House floor. She was given an opportunity to address those and fumbled that badly as well. She apparently has a history of embellishment and the MSM will destroy her with it.
27 posted on 04/20/2011 8:22:22 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (I am declaring 2011 to be the year of ME!)
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To: SeekAndFind

No that isn’t the point. She should only ask that the BC be released. Every question about her belief wrt to qualification should be asked with another question “Why doesn’t he just settle this and release the document?”

It is really simple. So when the simplest of issues are flubbed - hasta la vista.


28 posted on 04/20/2011 8:23:48 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: Artcore

Bachmann makes an extremely good Congresswoman. She doesn’t have IT to be President, at least not now.

You don’t set yourself up to be a national figure and then make dumb remarks. Especially if you’re a Republican. Especially if you are a Republican woman. And, most especially if you are a pretty Republican woman. (the only kind, of course)

And you sure as hell don’t make comments to turn off a good segment of your base to please a member of the MSM in his gotcha game.


29 posted on 04/20/2011 8:25:07 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Artcore

Trump is not the issue here and I am not a big fan of his except for his fearlessness with and ability to handle the Treason Media. He understands that it intends to destroy him over this issue and treats it accordingly.

Michelle apparently does not understand the chronic mendacity of the media THAT is what is fatal.

Trusting Stephanopolos? Come on.


30 posted on 04/20/2011 8:27:26 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: arrogantsob
Michelle apparently does not understand the chronic mendacity of the media THAT is what is fatal.

Ms Bachmann thought she had it bad when it was just Matthews and Press riding her. Apparently she has no real idea of the level of hell that will be unleashed on her if her campaign ever really gets traction.

31 posted on 04/20/2011 8:29:55 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (I am declaring 2011 to be the year of ME!)
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To: Artcore

Think that’s bad, I saw some moron earlier ranking Trump up there with Allen West.


32 posted on 04/20/2011 8:31:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: gov_bean_ counter

RATs can lie to their hearts’ content and the media just acts like it never happened but if a Republican makes the slightest mistake they all become outraged Sherlock Holmes pursuing the truth like the Furies pursued Orestes.


33 posted on 04/20/2011 8:32:53 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: arrogantsob

Very true.


34 posted on 04/20/2011 8:33:56 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (I am declaring 2011 to be the year of ME!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

That is why I am a huge admired of Sarah. NEVER have I seen the level of hatred leveled against her. Not even Nixon or Reagan had this degree of destructiveness unleashed on them. It is not only incredible but her ability to survive it has the media scared witless.


35 posted on 04/20/2011 8:35:36 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: SeekAndFind

Flip-floping at this stage of the game does not instill confidence.


36 posted on 04/20/2011 8:43:48 PM PDT by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: SeekAndFind

Did I see earlier today, someone said Karl Rove is now working with Bachmann.

That in itself, disqualifies her as having poor judgement, if true.

It’s mind boggling anyone in the GOP still has Rove anywhere near their campaign. After watching his mean-spirited hatchet job on Christine O’Donnell, it would seem to this poster than hiring Rove for a campaign is like a struggling swimmer grabbing an anchor.

Can anyone substantiate whether Bachmann actually was that foolish?


37 posted on 04/20/2011 8:44:16 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Game On" - Sarah Palin 4/16/11 Madison WI)
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To: SeekAndFind
Michele Bachmann is discovering what Sarah Palin learned 2-1/2 years ago: thew liberal media cannot be trusted and every interview contains one or more traps.

Palin once again demonstrated her magnetism and ability to inspire conservatives in Madison. If Palin decides to run the best thing Bachmann can do is stay out of the way.

38 posted on 04/20/2011 8:47:10 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: quantim; Impy; BillyBoy; Clintonfatigued

I’m talking about nominations. The last GOP House member to win a nomination was Garfield in 1880, and even he was a Senator-elect at the time. It’s basically an office for whom whose nominees are either sitting or former Vice-Presidents, Governors or Senators and rarely anything else. Here’s a rundown since 1856:

2008: Senator (D) vs. Senator (R)
2004: President (R) vs. Senator (D)
2000: Governor (R) vs. Vice-President (D)
1996: President (R) vs. Senator (D)
1992: Governor (D) vs. President (R)
1988: Vice-President (R) vs. Governor (D)
1984: President (R) vs. Ex-Vice President (D)
1980: Ex-Governor (R) vs. President (D)
1976: Ex-Governor (R) vs. President (D)
1972: President (R) vs. Senator (D)
1968: Ex-Vice-President (R) vs. Vice-President (D)
1964: President (D) vs. Senator (R)
1960: Senator (D) vs. Vice-President (R)
1956: President (R) vs. Ex-Governor (D)
1952: Ex-General (R) vs. Governor (D)
1948: President (D) vs. Governor (R)
1944: President (D) vs. Governor (R)
1940: President (D) vs. Businessman (R)
1936: President (D) vs. Governor (R)
1932: Governor (D) vs. President (R)
1928: Ex-Cabinet (R) vs. Governor (D)
1924: President (R) vs. Ex-Ambassador/Ex-Congressman (D)
1920: Senator (R) vs. Governor (D)
1916: President (D) vs. U.S. Supreme Court Justice (R)
1912: Governor (D) vs. President (R) vs. ex-President (Prog)
1908: War Secretary (R) vs. ex-Congressman (D)
1904: President (R) vs. State Judge (D)
1900: President (R) vs. ex-Congressman (D)
1896: ex-Governor (R) vs. ex-Congressman (D)
1892: ex-President (D) vs. President (R)
1888: ex-Senator (R) vs. President (D)
1884: Governor (D) vs. ex-Cabinet (R)
1880: Congressman/Senator-elect (R) vs. Ex-General (D)
1876: Governor (R) vs. Governor (D)
1872: President (R) vs. Newspaperman/Ex-Congressman (D/Lib.R)
1868: Ex-General (R) vs. ex-Governor (D)
1864: President (R) vs. ex-General (D)
1860: ex-Congressman (R) vs. Senator (North Dem) vs. Vice-President (South Dem) vs. ex-Senator (Const. Union)
1856: ex-Ambassador (D) vs. ex-Senator (R) vs. ex-President (Know-Nothing)


39 posted on 04/20/2011 8:48:50 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Artcore
...after one comment in an interview, Michelle Bachmann is thrown under the Bus.

Art, the sheer magnitude of Michele's failure in the George Stephanopolous interview is too mind blowing for most grounded conservatives and center-right voters to ignore.

It was her "Mondale" moment, and she will not recover from it, no matter how much any of us admires her.

40 posted on 04/20/2011 8:51:33 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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