Posted on 04/04/2011 2:01:03 PM PDT by RobinMasters
I said back on day one the birth announcement was faked because of the supposed scratches. I said at the time it was a cut and paste job, and possibly an ad replacement or different announcement. I think it was Butter whom I was discussing this with. I come from an old newspaper family and I’ve had years of working with microfilm so know how microfilm works. Those set off alarms immediately. IIRC, I asked about the two “identical” marriage lists because one indeed had more than the other. If they’re the same online today, I KNOW at one time they were different.
Thanks for clearing up that supposedly two different people at two different locations and at two different times made these supposed copies. I had originally understood they were from different people but since they were the same chalked it up to being the same person but with different user names.
Another thing that makes no sense is the newspapers claiming they don’t have any original newspapers from the day in storage. Just like county clerks are anal about THEIR records and would never destroy them as HI claims, newspaper editors are just as anal about keeping each issue.
Our family’s newspaper office burned so the stored papers were lost. However, the community understood the historical significance of the papers and scoured their attics and sheds and continued to bring us old issues decades later. The papers were eventually donated to a library which copied them and forwarded the copies to a second library for a back up. Which brings up the glaring question, if the HI newspapers didn’t keep their original issues (snort) then how the heck did they end up on microfilm?
Red flag and a hmmmmm. Was she a real person or fictitious?
1. Absence of fact, No long-form has been found or seen.
2. Fact, Obamas people state he was born at same hospital of Nordike twins, but numerical order of Registration and birth dates disagree with this assertion from Obamas people.
3. Fact, Different offices of birth registration account for the numerical disorders in relation to birth date and registration number.
4. Fact, is is highly likely that Obamas Grandparents registered his birth at a location that is different than the hospital, causing the numerical sequence anomalies.
5. Fact, Obama continues to hide all records.
6. Fact, the hospital refuses to confirm or deny he was
born there, even after they get a letter from him saying he was born there.
This is just a small sample of facts indicating fraud. O’Reilly is starting to look like an Old fool.
The Boy King has no clothes.
Indeed they are. So what was the deal about them supposedly taking them down? Interestingly enough though they seem to have a crystal clear unscratched image of the supposed birth announcement.
Obama was not born in Hawaii, but his Grandparents registered him there.
Case closed. Obama is a documented fraud.
No one on earth has seen either an Obama long-form BC from Hawaii nor a Unicorn from Hawaii. You cant see what does not exist.
http://top10badguys.blogspot.com/2009/08/bunnytoes-drkate-and-texasdarlin-update.html
ping for possible interest
Wasn’t it you who looked into the number of Hawaiian births for ‘61?
That's exactly what I've been saying. If you were born in HI around the time of The Won's miracle birth, don't you think you'd be digging through the attic and looking through your baby book hoping you'd find your name right below his in the newspaper announcements? Wouldn't you be looking through that stack of newspapers in granny's storage closet for issues of that time and when he was in school hoping to make some $$$ with pictures and articles on him? Why hasn't a researcher scoured every original issue at the newspaper offices - oh, never mind, the newspapers claim they don't keep their old papers...
I found the report & did a bit a dabbling, but it was butterdezillion or misstickley who really broke down the report. I just remember there were a lot of non-attended births registered in 1961
We now know that each of these are nothing more than proof of fraud.
Ignorant here, about the lady who died - Lorenda Starfelt. Had she been helping gather information from Hawaii? Or doing her own, but shared, research?
I’m confused - trying to figure out the lady’s connection to conservatives’ research. At the link to her husband’s announcement of her death there’s a long listed of posted condolences about Lorenda Starfelt, and how people would miss her “basement angel’s” blog. At this ‘condolence’ site, Corrente, is a link to basement angel’s blog. At that site Lorenda Starfelt/basement angel is an NPR lefty blaming the January Arizona mass shooting on “right wing terrorists”.
Skimming through her posts, she seems to not care much for Obama. At the “condolences” postings she was described as “...such a passionate champion of hillary clinton.”, and, “Hillary-criticism came, basement angel would be one of the first to set people straight on Hillary’s history, her resume, her tireless work...”.
Another condolence comment remarked, “I knew her by her other blogging name and she was a great advocate and very passionate about her causes.”
Ladysforest, your remark: “Yup - she croaks on the 16th, Trump speaks up on the 17th.”, really perks up my radar. Was the deceased doing investigative work for Trump? Curiouser and curiouser...
WOW! Goosebumps!
More goosebumps. Dear God, we need those men NOW!
Thanks so much for these posts.
Lorenda Starfelt has a wiki page; she was quite an accomplished film producer, working with her husband Brad Mays.
One of their projects was a documentary film [which also has a wiki page], “The Audacity of Democracy”, “..an in-depth look at the P.U.M.A. movement in general and one of its most controversial leaders, Darragh Murphy, in particular.”
In the docu. blurb is this interesting bit: “Brad Mays quickly came under fire from various online pro-Obama blogs, citing conflict-of-interest due to the production having been financed by PUMA-Pac itself. A vociferously anti-PUMA site called StupidPumas posted a page entitled ‘Stupid Brad Mays’, criticizing the filmmaker for not doing proper investigative work on the PUMA movement. Mays acknowledged these concerns, while maintaining that the film would be an objective account of what he saw and heard during the Democratic primary. About a week before the Democratic convention in Denver, ALL OF MAYS’ CAMERA EQUIPMENT WAS STOLEN WHILE EN ROUTE TO CHICAGO. Although most of the gear was EVENTUALLY replaced, the crucial Chicago shoot was seriously compromised.”
AND: “Citing alleged electoral malfeasance including caucus fraud on the part of rival candidate Barack Obama’s juggernaut campaign, PUMA attempted, without success, to secure the Democratic Party’s presidential nomination for their candidate of choice, Senator and former First Lady Hillary Clinton.”
Starfelt and Trump certainly shared gung-ho for Hillary sentiments, didn’t they? Given the woman’s professional history and pro-Hillary activism, it seems plausible that she and Trump might not have been strangers. IF they knew each other, and IF she was working through investigation [for Trump?] to expose Obama, the possibility that Trump is being a stalking horse for Hillary gains credibility.
Interesting information. Hmm. About a week before the DNC convention Obama’s people were harassing Starfelt’s husband. That would be mid-August, 2008. About a month after Starfelt made the birth announcement claims and questions about the authenticity of the images were swirling all around. I wonder how that times in with Texas Darlin’ shutting down her blog, or with Atlas Shrugs archives being shut down.
Did you see the site where somebody posted on a Tuesday afternoon that Starfelt had died the Sunday before, when Starfelt’s husband said in another place that she died Tuesday evening? Something doesn’t seem right. Finding out that Obama’s people have tried to manhandle Starfelt’s husband in the past, and knowing the “coincidental” death of Madelyn Dunham right before the election and the HDOH’s refusal to disclose her death certificate.... I don’t know. I don’t want to buy trouble where there is none, but I can’t help but think it’s really weird. No death announcement. Memorial service a month after she died. Nobody where she blogged knew she was sick until the announcement that she had died. I don’t know...
Trump’s stance towards the announcements doesn’t fit at all with what Starfelt claimed about them. I don’t know whether Starfelt was just repeating what the HDOH and librarian told her, and they duped her, or if some of the discrepancies were inserted by her. I do know that the HSL librarian in question is very, very suspect.
I guess we’ll have to see what Trump is up to. I don’t think that this issue being resolved would be a plus for Hillary though, because her willingness to accept the SOS position for a man she most probably knew was ineligible isn’t good. If Trump seriously works to get this resolved I can’t imagine it helping any already-active politician, because they all bear some of the responsibility for this grand treason. And Trump hasn’t been afraid of calling it what it is either.
Do you have any other material saved from the TD Blog around that time? Or do you know of anybody who does?
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