Posted on 03/21/2011 1:52:02 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
President Obama swore an oath to "... preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States." He should have sworn to obey it.
Congress, alone, has the power to declare war, and to make all the laws necessary to engage in military conflict. The War Powers Act defines precisely what is required of the president before military action may commence.
Obama launched 118 missiles and dropped 40 bombs on Libya without a thought about Congress or the Constitution.
He was quite concerned, however, about the United Nations. He hardly noticed the attacks on protesters until the United Nations Security Council approved a resolution authorizing the use of force against the Libyan government. Within hours after U.N. approval, the U.S. military was engaged – without the knowledge or approval of Congress.
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“Where is the Constitution.”
More importantly, where the hell, is Congress? Oh, yes, I forgot off on VACATION. What a bunch of incompetent, stumbling, bumbling fools!
The whole bunch needs to be thrown out,and replaced with new members, who understand what the Constitution means. Then term limits on Congress needs to be imposed. Until this happens nothing will get done, and we will continue to be a Country in decline.
Probable quote from nobama: The US Constitution is crap...I wipe my a** with the Constitution.”
IF I were a conspiracy follower, the whole Libya fiasco could be interpreted to be a cause that could forward the “One World Government” agenda of Soros/Obama/Progressives. (I’ll be convinced that’s true when the “rebels” in Libya push for Union Representation)
You realize of course that none of this matters unless the Congress makes it matter and they’ve been sufficiently intimidated that they’ll remain mum and the MSM will bury the story altogether.
The basis for Gulf War 1 was to eject Saddam from Kuwait, and the basis for Gulf War 2 was the War On Terror. In both cases we *were* at war with the Iraqi regime.
The diplomats, politicians and even the army are very keen on emphasising that we are NOT at war with the regime in the case of Libya. This is more or less “true”. But it is not the “actualité”.
(Politicians and diplomats are completely familiar with the concept of “being economical with the actualité”. Google Alan Clark for a fantastic example of it.)
The actualité is, this whole Libya thing has been dressed up as a humanitarian intervention requiring swift and decisive international action. Precisely so that it *doesn’t* fit the exact same circumstances of a “war”.
Remember how the term “unlawful combatants” was coined simply to escape the “prisoner of war” jargon under which the Geneva Convention applied? Same thing.
Of course 0bama thinks the UN is above Congress, and the UN Charter above the Constitution.
Like all leftists, he inherently believes the more centralized the government, the more authority it has, especially over less centralized authoritie.
Appreciate the explanation.
Still looks dodgy to me.
Do you reckon the US Armed Forces participating know they’re not really at war?
“How about Israel taking care of their own business?”
Those were entirely valid questions. But politicians also consider, “how much will our actions affect our standing at home”. Diplomats consider, “how much will our actions affect our standing with our allies”.
Armchair commentators and small-town hick politicians can get away with making blanket assumptions, passing the buck, or playing barrack-room-lawyer to avoid having to make a hard choice. But then, they’re not going to be held to account for the consequences.
Say the terrorists were travelling through Germany and were mere hours away from launching the attack; at the very least the Germans and the Israelis would have to be notified of the threat. In reality, the Israelis are unlikely to be in a position to respond.
Realistically, the German government would have great difficulty authorizing the use of deadly force at short notice, against foreign nationals carrying a dirty bomb through a crowded German town. So would Washington.
If POTUS can’t do anything at all until he’s had all of Congress navel-gaze over all the options on the table and Germany took the same by-the-book approach then the net consequence would be the use of a WMD against one of America’s allies, with both Germany and America forced to sit on their hands.
Is the survival of Israel less important than the rule book?
So I expect the top brass know that they're taking out the SAM sites and control rooms primarily to disrupt the ability of Gaddaffi to coordinate strikes against his own people, and once done it'll be up to the Libyans themselves to decide what to do with their dictator. One of the US brass on the BBC this morning, said they were actively avoiding tracking Gaddaffi's movements because they don't want to be seen to have taken him out. If of course he just happens to be in a control room that goes kaboom then they're adamant that it won't be anything other than an unfortunate accident...
(This just in - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12802939 - all the coalition partners are singing from the same hymn sheet on that point)
The USAF personnel on the ground may think they're at war, or they may think they're on a peace-keeping exercise. How they perceive the mission probably depends on the detail and content of their orders.
Obama launched 118 missiles and dropped 40 bombs on Libya without a thought about Congress or the Constitution.
MSM mum but if Bush did that it would be 24/7 news,the msm is owned by Obama&Co.
But, but...he’s a Constitutional Scholar....sez so on his resume- between Kommunity Organizer and NCAA Tournament Handicapper.
You for got to add: Mothers and Fathers ask "why did my son/daughter have to die to feed the egos of politicians and diplomats?"
Where is the Republican leadership?
>Obama was allowed to piss on the Constitution by Congress when they did not positively verify his nationality. From that point on, it allowed to go on and on and on.
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>It was a question BEFORE he was elected and now we pay the price.
And this may only be the downpayment.
If a politician or a diplomat had children serving in the Forces then you’d be right. But these days, they’re rarer than hen’s teeth in the United Kingdom.
Our Royal Family are just about the only people in any branch of the entire British parliamentary system that still encourages their children to go into the military AND serve at the front line AND muck in with everybody else.
Tony Blair and his ilk absolutely wouldn’t allow their kids to serve in the military for all the tea in China, unless they could wangle a nice desk job for their offspring.
But they were all quite happy to send our troops to the Middle East without the necessary equipment.
It is the New World Order and it is right in front of our noses.
And right in front of our rifle sights.
Unbelievable. With NO congressional approval.
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Ill-Air-National-Guard-Unit-Deployed-to-Libya-118359004.html?dr
OK who will you shoot? The Amercican public is just ignoring it.
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