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Transplant patient got AIDS from new kidney (Gay kidney doner - Outrage!)
AP via Yahoo! News ^ | 3-20-11 | AP via Yahoo! News

Posted on 03/20/2011 8:42:35 PM PDT by wac3rd

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To: goodnesswins

According to my surgeon and the American Red Cross, directed donation blood goes to the patient for whom it is designated.

I happen to have recently researched this as I am preparing for 2 major surgeries and have a rare blood type.
I have 0- blood and strangely enough happened to marry a man who has the same type. Our children are also the same. The RC calls our house whenever they have a shortage because my husband and daughter are faithful donors and 0- is often desperately needed as it can be given to any person in need. However we can only receive 0-. I can not give due to health issues.

Directed blood donation as I said requires a physician’s order and will require my donors to go to one location within a certain time period to give. I will receive their blood, unless my doctor, the hospital and the RC are all lying to me.

http://www.redcrossblood.org/donating-blood/types-donations/autologous-and-directed


61 posted on 03/21/2011 10:58:21 AM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: drellberg

homosexuality is a behavior NOT an immutable trait or status.

contrary to what lady gaga says in his song, people are not born that way. It is no different than trying to say wife swappers or any other fetish is “born that way.”

Homosexuals should not donate organs. This was a kidney donation. IOW the donor is still alive. If this donor had spit upon someone they could and would have been charge with attempted murder.


62 posted on 03/21/2011 10:58:35 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Huh? What has any of this to do with anything?


63 posted on 03/21/2011 11:01:02 AM PDT by drellberg
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To: RinaseaofDs

curing or not curing aids will have no effect on their behavior. Homosexuality is a recreation sex fetish that contributes nothing to society.

There is no reason to link a disease to a deviant sex fetish not being accepted as normal conduct.


64 posted on 03/21/2011 11:01:36 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: goodnesswins

Maybe this is what you are thinking of.
My brother has the same blood type as I do, but he does not live here. If he went to a RC center where he lives and gave in my name, that would be credited to me and if I needed to be given additional blood beyond what my family here have given his donation would count as a credit and I would not be charged for the additional pint.


65 posted on 03/21/2011 11:03:04 AM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: longtermmemmory

True or not, this has nothing to do with anything about this topic.


66 posted on 03/21/2011 11:04:01 AM PDT by drellberg
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To: kalee
I have a friend who donates blood to the Red Cross every 8 weeks or so. They call her to remind her to come in. She also grows her hair and donates it through "locks of love" to children who have lost their hair. She's a very nice lady.

Best wishes to you with your upcoming surgeries.

67 posted on 03/21/2011 11:06:22 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

That may be the difference, mine is a preplanning situation. My surgeon will write the order for the blood I need during surgery and my family will go donate in the weeks before. In an emergency situation we would probably be able to inveigle the hospital to accept ours for the hospitalized loved one. We have a rare type and the RC calls our house regularly to ask if someone will donate.
If my dh were in a hospital bed and needed blood and they knew all his family members standing there had the same type I think a dr would sign the order and the RC would gladly take the donations. It would mean they did not have to part with their previously collected precious supply of 0-.


68 posted on 03/21/2011 11:10:11 AM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: A Strict Constructionist
I wonder if the public understands how much of our medical dollars are going to this one segment of the population?

No. We have to cut mammograms and pain meds for grandma so we can continue treating totally avoidable conditions such as AIDS and drug addictions. Oh yes, and totally avoidable conditions like getting pregnant multiple times with multiple partners.

69 posted on 03/21/2011 11:10:31 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: drellberg

it does because the homo-activists argue that since they were allegedly “born that way” they should have the right to donate. it was not their choice but the 98% of the population should be at fatal risk from the 2%.

We also have to remember that the surgeons and sugical nurses were put at risk from this. One punctured glove and presto, we now have to people killed by this one reckless homosexual fetishist.


70 posted on 03/21/2011 11:12:33 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: kalee

That makes sense. The blood supply is safer now than it was in the 80s and 90s,
thankfully.


71 posted on 03/21/2011 11:13:29 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: drellberg; longtermmemmory; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
Your posts are riddled with PC drivel:

The larger idea must be that we restrict rights no more than absolutely necessary...

This statement outs you as a homo-activist in spades. Since when is it a "right" to donate blood? Or to server in the military? Or to redefine "marriage?" Only in the homo-activists' dreams.

Many gays are responsible organ donors...

You make a gargantuan assumption about a group that is demonstratively irresponsible regarding public health.

This is not true of blood donation.

Why would this follow if you assume that they are responsible organ donors?

Jim Robinson made it exceedingly clear recently that he would not tolerate homosexual propaganda on this board. I believe you have more than proved you position by interjecting "rights" where none exist. I hope that he will seriously consider "intolerating" your membership here. It is inexcusable. This site repudiates everything you seem to stand for.

72 posted on 03/21/2011 11:21:31 AM PDT by fwdude (The world is sleeping in the dark that the Church just can't fight, 'cause it's asleep in the light.)
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To: doorgunner69

Harvard Homosexual Leader Urges Others To Lie When Donating Blood

http://www.studentsforum.net/Homosexual-Urges-Blood-Donors-Lie-ftopict2430.html


73 posted on 03/21/2011 11:29:10 AM PDT by massmike (DADT repeal: the Boy Scouts now have tougher membership requirements than the Army!)
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To: chadwimc

Me too, and you have to get your own blood back.

Autologous blood is not tested the way a regular pool donation is. Therefore, it cannot be put in the pool. It can only be used by the donor, or discarded.


74 posted on 03/21/2011 12:02:36 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: drellberg

Homosexual behavior, no matter how circumspect, increases the likelihood of various STD’s, not just AIDS, by the nature of the act itself.

Blood transfusions and organ transplants should not be made from homosexual donors, period, in my humble opinion. Yes, this guy was a jerk, but you don’t have to be to endanger the one receiving the donation.


75 posted on 03/21/2011 12:15:41 PM PDT by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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To: fwdude

I am not intimidated by your effort to have me banned. I would be only too happy to have Jim Robinson scrutinize my posts. He strikes me as a decent man and a strong conservative.

I hope and trust that whatever his views on homosexuality that he also takes the principled view that well-reasoned and articulately asserted positions are helpful, and indeed necessary to get to the truth.

If he would weigh in on my views, I would be all the happier.

I can’t imagine that what I have written here would be offensive or even disagreeable to a true conservative. This is not to presume that all conservatives would agree; only that there is room for differing lines of argument even within the conservative movement.


76 posted on 03/21/2011 12:46:18 PM PDT by drellberg
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To: kalee

NO....we have a friend in Seattle who had open heart surgery... A- blood type...which my husband is also...he wanted to give to the friend directly...and the surgeon told our friend it wouldn’t happen, and gave no other options....maybe depends upon hospital or area.


77 posted on 03/21/2011 12:55:17 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Unlike the West, the Islamic world is serious.)
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To: fwdude

I am reading your reply to me again, and I am incredulous.

You call me out for writing that as a general principle we should in this country restrict rights no more than absolutely necessary. Would it be wise to restrict rights as much as we possibly can? Honestly, instead of calling me a homo-activist in spades, perhaps you could explain what is the common sense right answer you have as a conservative principle?

You call me out for saying that many gays are responsible organ donors. I just looked it up, and there are 86 million Americans are signed up as voluntary organ donors. Are you saying that it is implausible that very many of these are gay? Are you saying that it is impossible to be gay without also being wreckless? (And if you are saying this, then in what sense is homosexual behavior a matter of choice?) Here too I am confused by your reasoning.

The last thing you call me out for I don’t even know how to articulate. 19 people per day die already from the absence of organ donations. You and some others here argue in favor of restricting supply even further. I have not argued against prudent measures to restrict homosexuals from donating organs, just for the record. I have only said that if it is done it should be pursued with great care.

For this you have reported me to Jim Robinson and proposed that I be banned. You write that this site repudiates everything I seem to stand for. How would you know what I stand for? And since when do you represent the site? Go jump in the lake.


78 posted on 03/21/2011 12:59:53 PM PDT by drellberg
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To: drellberg

My goal was not to intimidate you, but to have you banned from a conservative website. Calling an aspect of homosexuality a “right” is not a well-reasoned position by any reckoning, and it’s not even in the same universe as truth. It is radical politics, nothing more.

Again, Jim will have to make the assessment.


79 posted on 03/21/2011 1:23:10 PM PDT by fwdude (The world is sleeping in the dark that the Church just can't fight, 'cause it's asleep in the light.)
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To: goodnesswins

In your area it must depend on the doctor’s willingness to write the order and the hospital’s willingness to allow it. The RC make provision for it.


80 posted on 03/21/2011 2:16:25 PM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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