Posted on 02/25/2011 2:26:40 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
“I can understand giving an organ to one who would benefit the most”
The irony here is that, with most diseases, the younger you are, the sicker you are.
I.e., old age it’s practically expected to have trouble. If you’re young and have the disease, that’s a serious problem - something’s deadly wrong, inherently. Thus, in many cases, it may be that the organ going to the young won’t do any more good than to the old.
“I can understand giving an organ to one who would benefit the most”
The irony here is that, with most diseases, the younger you are, the sicker you are.
I.e., old age it’s practically expected to have trouble. If you’re young and have the disease, that’s a serious problem - something’s deadly wrong, inherently. Thus, in many cases, it may be that the organ going to the young won’t do any more good than to the old.
Longer than whom?
If you mean blacks, that’s probably because blacks are more likely to shoot each other. “Life span” doesn’t account for possibly too much crime.
I observe that “/sarc” means just wait till tomorrow.
It will be standard procedure soon.
Why then, does everyone talk about Obamas death panels so much?
When that day comes, there will be one less problem, until then, we will still need some sort of geath panel, won’t we?
Got that right. That’s why this sort of stuff is really no big deal.
Probably because it never means much until it is you or a loved one of your own at the mercy of an impersonal panel (and that is if they are lucky, and it isn’t just having factors processed in a computer instead) making decisions using logic that was made in order to get legislation passed, the authors now moved on to bigger and better things like skiing in the Alps.
Then, it means everything.
Anyone who is involved in medicine knows that decisions are made today, hard decisions, but there is a key difference between where we are now, and where we are going.
Now, your physician can be an advocate for you and they often are. Under a government mandate to follow an algorithm, there will be no need for an advocate, even yourself as your own, because there will be no realistic appeal.
I am sure there will be an appeal process. Think of having liver cancer while waiting for your case to go before the Supreme Court. And even if it did get before a panel, the bureaucrats handling it are going to be overworked, underpaid, tired and cynical. The numbers before them will have no meaning whatsoever.
This isn’t government making these decisions, United Network for Organ Sharing is a private, non-profit entity. No elected officials or government employees work for them or are on their boards.
Democrats want old people to die.
I hope you don’t misunderstand me, I am not saying or implying it is the government running this NOW. But if we don’t do something, it will be.
btt
I thought this was about giving younger people preferential treatement when determining who gets a kidney?
It is. But the question is, who determines “younger”?
Everyone can draw the extreme, that is easy. The ten year old kid will get the kidney before the 80 year old codger.
But...you are 53 and the other person is 49...do they get the kidney, no questions asked, even if you are sicker and have been waiting longer? Is it a hard formula?
That is what this is about.
Then there will always be a need for a death panel of some sort. Should the death panel be formed by an organisation that one can vote for or against, or should it be formed by organisations that one can afford?
I would rather have people involved in the care of the patient making decisions on the care, rather than being locked into an algorithm developed by the type of people who worked late into the night to figure out how to push Obamacare past the CBO.
While it is true that a corpsman on a battlefield is a one man “death panel” if the description is applied, it doesn’t do justice to the job. Neither does it do justice to the people who currently figure out what to do with transplanted organs.
But it does apply most relevantly to a panel of government employees who determine what kind of cancer care a person is going to receive, if there is no recourse to that treatment.
ok, thanks
You’re welcome, FRiend.
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