Skip to comments.Will Pirates Who Allegedly Killed Americans Be Prosecuted In U.S.? And If So, Where?
Posted on 02/23/2011 7:48:29 AM PST by Qbert
The fate of the Somali pirates who allegedly killed four Americans off the coast of Somalia has yet to be determined, but the U.S. Justice Department says it is "investigating and reviewing" evidence in the case and is "committed to working with our international partners to ensure that the perpetrators of this heinous crime are brought to justice."
The four Americans were on a yacht in the waters off the Horn of Africa when their vessel was hijacked Friday. U.S. forces were following the hijacked yacht when on Tuesday at least some of the hijackers opened fire. The hostages -- Scott and Jean Adam of California, and Phyllis Macay and Bob Riggle of Seattle -- had suffered fatal wounds.
If the U.S. government decides to handle this case in the same way it has handled other recent cases of Somali pirates targeting U.S. ships, the 15 surviving Somalis currently aboard a U.S. aircraft carrier near the Horn of Africa will soon be heading for a U.S. courtroom.
The United States may not have many other options. In early 2009, Kenya and several Western countries entered into an agreement whereby Kenya would prosecute pirates captured by Western forces. But Kenya became overwhelmed by the volume of cases, and in late 2010 Kenya canceled the agreement, according to reports at the time.
Should the Justice Department, along with other U.S. authorities, decide to prosecute the 15 pirates in the United States, one of four U.S. attorneys' offices around the country could end up with the case: the Southern District of New York, the Eastern District of Virginia, the Western District of Washington or the Central District of California.
Asked whether those districts are in fact in the mix, a Justice Department spokesman declined to answer, saying he is "not going to speculate...
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How about my back yard
I can’t believe they will be *prosecuted* in the DOJ.
I can, however, believe they will be given *jobs* in the DOJ’s civil rights enforcement division.
Justice from this DOJ? I’ll believe it when I see it.
WTF? Prosecuted?! These SOBs should not even be ALIVE!
They should all be passing through sharks’ digestive systems right about now.
Why don’t we go back to the “old” way of dealing with pirates? Summary trial at sea by the ship’s Captain.
If it were up to me, I would take our military and bomb selected targets on the Somali coast - i.e. any ship in port that could be utilized by pirates should be destoryed. Wouldn’t that solve the Somali pirate problem? Wouldn’t the world be a much better, safer place?
African Muslims killed 4 white Christians. I think we all know how Obama’s DOJ will deal with this.
they should be taken to the center of that town and hung, and everyone told the next time a boat leaves this place to hijack we are coming back and kill everyone and destroy everything here. one warning.
contrast that with what we actually do. send them money when they hijack.
like you said:
God we have become stupid.
It’s really scary how many people have become numbed to this.
The trial should be held in Davey Jones’ Locker. We should be killing every pirate we find and shelling the Somalian coast back into the Stone Age (which is only a decade or so ago there).
We previously went to war over pirates seizing American ships.
I pray/hope Putin and the Russian navy will take the pirates for a boat ride - then let them paddle home...
Hey, here’s another one.
You think the soldiers properly read these Pirates their rights? If not anything they admit will be thrown out of court. And did they have a proper search warrant? You think we will pay for their lawyers as taxpayers?
I have a $15 solution to the problem, assuming $1 per bullet.
That's a good idea. I would add armed drones firing on boats with armed occupants in the open sea.
The law, American and international, says Pirates must be tried by an admiralty court.
In America that is a Federal District Court
Why is it that I prefer that they NOT be prosecuted in the USA? It is because it will take years, cost millions, and in the end, the criminals will not receive the justice they deserve?
What's up with the use of the word "allegedly?"
Why apply a United States 5th Amendment concept of innocent until proven guilty to a crime committed in international waters off the coast of Somalia? Are we going to read these pirates their Miranda rights, too? Here's an idea, they don't get Miranda rights, or any other United States Constitutional protections because they are not in the United States, the crime was not committed in the United States, and they are not United States residents.
If we don’t have the stones to see justice done, why not let the Russian navy? They could probably use a good target sled.
“African Muslims killed 4 white Christians. I think we all know how Obamas DOJ will deal with this.”
Has Hussein Obama even said anything about this?
Feed ‘em to the sharks.
I can’t believe they are still breathing, put them in a pile of red ants, find the homebase and bomb the hell out of it..
I think we’re supposed to be liberal towards the pirates, and give them all the rights of American citizens in our justice system. It’s like the concept of piracy on the high seas has gone out the window. Instead, these guys will demand their day in a U.S. court, with their ACLU affiliated attorneys giving them their defense.
It’s amazing the crap we tolerate these days.
Oh, way less than that. Depending on where you shop you can pick up 5.56 FMJ ammo for about 6 bucks for a box of 20. Buy 2 boxes and shoot the motherf*ckers twice for that price.
Those not killed should be hanged from the yard arm, on the spot.
That made my day thanks, and we have to take them to Court we are totally screwed up.
Generally, they could be tried in a number of US federal district courts. If their vessel was American flagged (and I believe it was), it would be likely that they would be tried closest to the homeport of the vessel’s registration.
On the bright side, it is not a “hate crime.”
“Why apply a United States 5th Amendment concept of innocent until proven guilty to a crime committed in international waters off the coast of Somalia? Are we going to read these pirates their Miranda rights, too? Here’s an idea, they don’t get Miranda rights, or any other United States Constitutional protections because they are not in the United States, the crime was not committed in the United States, and they are not United States residents.”
—Agree. And if the Libs’ idea is that applying these legal concepts to cases like this somehow shows “more justice” to the world (unlike the old way of doing things)... well, it sure isn’t helping reduce terrorism and killings.
“What’s up with the use of the word “allegedly?”
—You’re innocent until proven guilty by the Left. Unless you’re a “Teabagger” or Sarah Palin...
His point being no one respects this administration - poking the big guy in the eye is a low-risk preoccupation these days.
Catch and release...
I read yesterday that they currently hold 600 hostages and 30 ships - but it doesn’t make the news here because it involves other countries, and teachers pay is so much more important.
They should never have made it back to shore. These are pirates and murderers. Not “alleged.” They were caught on a hijacked boat in international waters. With murdered civilians on board.
Plain and simple. They’re murdering pirates, and should have been put overboard and left to drown.
But in 100 years, the descendants of Major Owens would say that there would still be sharks in those waters looking for another free meal.
I just got my jury duty summons yesterday....if they can expedite things for the week of March 21 over in Indio, I’ll - for once - be eager to show up and hope to get empaneled.
Exactly. I mean, how much more of this are we supposed to take?
The story is that extreme poverty in their country lures uneducated Somali yutes into signing on into the piracy business, including volunteers as young as 13 or 14.
Whether this is correct or not in this particular piracy case, capital punishment for a group of youths would be iffy in an American court. The bleeding hearts would have a field day.
I guess we just have to wait for more details to come out.
turn them over to the Russians and forget about it.
They’ll get a slap on the hand since the District of Criminals is in love with the Muzzies.
Hand them over to Marcellus Wallace, with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch.
It's all because of that darn "Rule of Law".
The President should have to power to have anyone (especially pirates) executed whenever and for whatever he deems necessary.
That will take care of the problem.