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Are you sick of highly paid teachers? (Vanity, propaganda)...shoot this bs down.
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Posted on 02/20/2011 9:23:23 PM PST by Sonny M

Are you sick of highly paid teachers?

Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or10 months a year! It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do - babysit!

We can get that for less than minimum wage.

That's right. Let's give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan-- that equals 6 1/2 hours).

Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day...maybe 30? So that's $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day.

However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.

LET'S SEE....

That's $585 X 180= $105,300 per year. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries).

What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master's degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour. That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year.

Wait a minute -- there's something wrong here! There sure is!

The average teacher's salary (nation wide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days = $277.77/per day/30 students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student--a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!) WHAT A DEAL!!!!

Make a teacher smile; repost this to show appreciation for all educators.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; US: Wisconsin; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: propaganda; teachers; unions; wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
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To: Sonny M; TruthHound; JerseyHighlander; cherry

If they truly believe they can do much better babysitting, then my answer to them would be... what the hell are you doing teaching, run and get a babysitter’s job!!

I think that would shut them up, because they know very well that there’s no way they could make that type of money babysitting - their little sophomoric exercise totally neglects the economy of scale.

It would be like someone calculating the cost of building a single pencil. It would cost you a fortune - cut the tree, machine it, mine the coal, get the rubber for the eraser, assemble it... However, with economy of scale, you can buy a pencil for 10 cents.

Regarding the numbers themselves, what it costs the parents to send the kids to school is not just the cost of the teacher’s salaries, it’s the cost of everything else - benefits, administration, supplies, support staff, etc. The total cost per pupil is over $10K, which comes to $300K per classroom, not $50K. And that does not include building costs.

Lastly, and most important, what the “right” or ‘fair” salary should be is not determined arbitrarily or comparing apples with oranges. It should be determined by the marketplace, and the unions absolutely refuse to allow that. Why? Because they would rather have a monopoly. It’s good to be king! (or union boss). As a result the good teachers get penalized. They would most likely be making a lot more in a private school system.


21 posted on 02/20/2011 10:24:16 PM PST by aquila48
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To: Puckster
I figure if the government schools ever get overcrowded, I could take the kids to the Post Office or DMV for the same service. That's service with a small 's'.

If the government can't charge you for health care (and they can't) how might you be required to pay for 'education' services- even when you haven't any kids in school? Is this America? Hello, McFly!

22 posted on 02/20/2011 10:24:18 PM PST by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: aquila48

Don’t forget the permits for the lead. Without that it nothing more than scratching the surface.


23 posted on 02/20/2011 10:29:16 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: budwiesest

“how might you be required to pay for ‘education’ services- even when you haven’t any kids in school?”

Okay, this is an easy one.....wait for it.....still waiting...?

Your investing in the next generation that will keep YOUR Social Security...solvent...hhhhhhhaaaaa!!!!!!!


24 posted on 02/20/2011 10:35:21 PM PST by Puckster
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To: TruthHound
And it’s the future generation of Americans that’s being gypped out of a decent education.

There are not many American children left in LAUSD. Which also helps to explain your other stats.

25 posted on 02/20/2011 11:08:06 PM PST by bornred
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To: TruthHound
And it’s the future generation of Americans that’s being gypped out of a decent education.

The only people that ultimately responsible for their children's education are the parent, and the children themselves. Whether they home school, or not, ultimately their childrens' education is their responsibility. Lousy schools or teachers is no excuse for children not getting an education. Parents need to look at education as more than just glorified daycare for their kids.

26 posted on 02/20/2011 11:12:11 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: TonyInOhio
f the teachers are upset about their compensation, perhaps they should seek other employment.

Exactly! Governor Walker should ask for one teacher to come forward and relinquish his/her job, if the governor can find someone willing to do that job for 15 -20% less than the current compensation. I bet he would have a ton of takers.

27 posted on 02/20/2011 11:23:51 PM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT (General, sir, it is perfectly ok to call me "ma'am"!)
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To: Puckster

Touche! (Imagine a little slash above the ‘e’, my keyboard doesn’t do French, sorry)


28 posted on 02/20/2011 11:39:09 PM PST by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: dfwgator

True-I was wondering when the other half of the equation would be mentioned. Parents seem to be too busy to compare what their kids are learning to what they should already know by a certain age.


29 posted on 02/21/2011 12:20:38 AM PST by Amberdawn
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“FYI: 181 days / 5 days per work-week = 36.2 work-weeks.”

100k in salary and bennies would be 50 hours a week for a typical private sector job. For that level of compensation at the very least teachers should be required to work 10 hour days. The schools could then offer “free” after school daycare.


30 posted on 02/21/2011 12:50:28 AM PST by lodi90
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To: budwiesest

Ah yes, Alaska....Served in the Coast Guard in Cordova on the USCG Sedge, 70-72. I think the Sweetbrier resides there now. Bouy Tender life, quite the memory.


31 posted on 02/21/2011 12:59:52 AM PST by Puckster
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To: Sonny M

Let’s see, I’m a technical editor and I and three other editors support 240 software and hardware engineers. If you pay us $8 an hour, that’s $125,000 each per year. Darn, I’m underpaid, too!


32 posted on 02/21/2011 1:48:02 AM PST by Hootowl
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To: Hootowl

Rats, math error! I should actually be making nearly a million a year.


33 posted on 02/21/2011 1:49:33 AM PST by Hootowl
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To: Sonny M

Unfortunately, this is the math that is being taught in our schools..


34 posted on 02/21/2011 2:05:01 AM PST by richardtavor (One of the rare establishmt R,epublicans backed by the "Tea Party" movement that wants limited gove)
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To: TonyInOhio

It is not a question of having enough. The system is unsustainable, and most of these teachers will never see a pension.


35 posted on 02/21/2011 2:09:48 AM PST by richardtavor (One of the rare establishmt R,epublicans backed by the "Tea Party" movement that wants limited gove)
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To: Sonny M

The only problem with the author’s scheme is that if there is no silly planning time, then assignments, tests, and quizzes will not be prepared. But I guess that’s OK since there won’t be any time to grade them anyway. And the kids will love it since they won’t have to do written homework or write papers. Unless you want to help the teachers. You’ll get paid $1.50 an hour, of course.


36 posted on 02/21/2011 3:00:03 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Our Constitution: the new Inconvenient Truth)
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To: richardtavor
It is not a question of having enough. The system is unsustainable, and most of these teachers will never see a pension.

Just another Ponzi Scheme.

37 posted on 02/21/2011 3:19:09 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Sonny M

Give the quality of the product they produce, they are overpaid and they know it. Hence the tantrum.


38 posted on 02/21/2011 3:23:36 AM PST by AdaGray
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To: TruthHound
Just try to fathom a private sector industry that could survive where their workers could only manage 3 out of every 100 widgets meeting standards.

And just try to imagine a private sector industry that could survive when the workers have to make every widget blank into a widget, regardless of how prepared it was to be a widget.

Even if the suppliers had sent widget blanks that were of aluminum, instead of steel -- doesn't matter, make the widget.

Even if the widget blanks were corroded, and would encourage corrosion on the widget blanks they were in the bin next too -- doesn't matter, you can't reject any widget blanks, you have to put 'em all in the same bin, and make 'em all into widgets.

Even if the suppliers call the boss, and tell them it's your fault the widget blanks couldn't be made into a widget, despite the fact that the widget blank supplied was the wrong size and shape for the intended widget -- you gotta make it into a widget anyhow.

Yep, gotta love those, 'private sector industry' comparisons.

39 posted on 02/21/2011 3:39:24 AM PST by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: SpaceBar

“A teacher should command as good a salary as their professional talents dictate as individuals”


Bravo! But right now we have a single payer system that
does not allow the end consumer (parents) to make direct
decisions about how their own money is spent educating
their own children.


40 posted on 02/21/2011 3:47:09 AM PST by paint_your_wagon
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