Posted on 02/10/2011 11:03:34 AM PST by Libloather
There's only one way to do that - no?
Well, then THIS CANNOT STAND!
We must get more “sex positive” propaganda and pressure out there.
“Brave New World” is the utopia that we leftists seek!
I hate articles like this. All fluff and no substance.
How many of these ‘youth’ believe in Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth fairy? I’d guess approximately 61%.
Without age groups, this article is pointless. What ‘youth’ is going to tell their Sunday School teacher “Yeah, I’m the biggest slut in school”, or “I’ve already nailed 6 classmates”?
What answer do you THINK you’ll get from a church based ‘research’?
This is akin to doing a study on how many people arrested on possession of pot, swear that that bag of weed wasn’t theirs. Golly ... I’ll be it’s even higher than 61%
And I'm not just talking about Joy Behar. I mean the one she serves.
“61 Percent of Teens Want to be Virgins until Marriage”
Not buying it.
How about “61 Percent of The Teens That We Asked Say They Want to be Virgins until Marriage.”
Good for them! These are kids to be proud of...
The Family
is the target.
All leftist/Luciferian policies have the primary goal of destroying the nuclear family.
FYI....CPAC televised LIVE on C-span 3. At 2:30 EST, Forum on Traditional Marriage begins
Yeah, that was my thought exactly... human nature doesn’t change, and kids are not going to tell the ‘Grups’ what they reallly think...
It is mildly encouraging, but, the sample was hardly scientific.
Voluntary, self-defined teens on the internet could have been anyone.
A comprehensive survey that includes the right percentage of public, private, and homeschooled teens would really show the truth.
However, many parents won’t let their kids participate in “surveys,” I probably wouldn’t, I don’t trust the surveyors not to put pervy ideas in their heads, like:
“Would you like to remain a virgin until marriage?”
“Would you consider oral sex, sex?”
“Have you ever desired to have sex with a __________?”
“How many times? And how often do think about _____?”
It’s like a scuzbag in an alley asking your kids all these questions, so I wouldn’t trust it. Etc., I’d be suspicious.
1) 82 percent believe God intended marriage to last a lifetime
Look at 3). Something about the truth being written on their hearts regardless of how the "feel" about the Bible.
2) 50 percent consider an unmarried man and woman a family
A "family"? Really? Blame PC indoctrination and anti-judgementalism. See 4).
3) 59 percent said the Bible has little/no influence on their thoughts and actions
They need to study some history and philosophy. Without the precepts of the Bible, there can be no freedom.
4) 62 percent believe truth is relative
Which leads to gov't being the arbiter of what is true, meaning gov't replaces God.
5) 57 percent believe being good people and doing good deeds will get you into heaven
What's heaven to these kids? This is a [eternally] DEADLY belief. How do you know when you've done enough? Self definition?
6) 69 percent watch MTV on a weekly basis
This is most of the problem.
Well when I was a teen 10 yrs ago I wanted to stay a virgin too but then I got a girlfriend and she was quite peristant that we do the deed...me being a guy was tough to resist and well I tried but failed and it just seemed like all normal teens and people were out there having sex at least I was in a relationship. But culturally Hollywood bombards us with sex everywhere where it’s implied if your not having sex there is something wrong with you
Of course you don't "buy it". Hedonists tend to project. To the degenerate, there is always a desperate need to ensure that the rest of society is as degenerate as they are.
Argumentum Ad Hominem. Please provide specific methodological flaws, simply trying to attack the messenger (ie: Church research) is not a logical or coherent argument.
These stats are messed up, so I don’t believe this report.
Note:
“Sixty one percent of America’s youth said they would like to not have sex until marriage”
“63 percent of respondents said they would like to regain their virginity if possible. “
If true, that means 63 percent are not virgins (those who would like to regain it).
So it’s like they said “Yeah, I’d like to be a virgin, even though I’m not.”
pedantic hat on.
Actually, it’s more of a genetic fallacy than an ad hominem.
The poster was discounting the data because of its source.
Now, if he attacked the presenter of the data because he was from a church, this would be more of a circumstantial ad hominem...
/pedantry
(just havin’ a little fun with ya)
Fair enough
1. Method of asking the questions. If you ask a question that can incriminate, under what question is this question asked? Openly in a classroom, or 1:1 with a percieved 'leader' will likely give an answer that the questioner expects to hear. If you have a room with a small group, people will indicate the answer that is expected, to avoid a 'witch-hunt'.
2. Fear of reprisal. What happens or what risk is the questioner subject to? There is no perceived risk for giving the answer that the questioner wants; however giving a differing answer could cause distress (informing parents, social outcast, humiliation, ect).
3. Risk vs Reward - is there any motivation to give an answer contrary to the expected answer? What motivation is there that the youth will give an 'honest' answer instead of an answer that reflects reality.
4. Conditioning - if children are cautioned not to do something over and over; then are asked if they would do something contrary - most would say 'No'. If you tell them that stealing is wrong - over and over; and then ask them if they will steal; you will get 100% of them to say that they would 'Never' steal. Great, now leave a bowl of candy on your desk and leave the room for 5 minutes; and see what happens
5. What age group was questioned? Pre-adolscents will readily agree never to drink, smoke, chew tobacco, do drugs or have sex, shoplift or jaywalk. I offer the wildly unsuccessful and expensive program DARE as an example. The results after spending gazilloins of dollars promoting DARE showed that this program had NO EFFECT upon later drug use by teens.
Now, are you telling me that you had never thought of these possibilities?
Where did they find a group of teens where 61% were virgins in the first place? I’m calling BS.
So you’re calling me a hedonist and a degenerate because you don’t agree with me?!
Which one of use is projecting?
Not to mention that 50% of teens are guys.
But watch out. You might be a hedonist and degenerate who is projecting.
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