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Senators look for immigration deal (JUAN MCCAIN ALERT)
Politico ^ | 2011-02-07 | Carrie Brown

Posted on 02/07/2011 5:21:11 AM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: Tupelo
I never said it was a plan. What I said was it could be a place to start a discussion.

What you've laid out is nothing but one more amnesty plan. You allow all the illegals to stay in the US and work legally. Any plan that waives the legally prescribed penalty for the laws broken is an amnesty plan. The law prescribes deportation for illegal entrants.

Denying citizenship to the illegal entrants (but not their descents for as long as the USA exists) accomplishes nothing.

41 posted on 02/07/2011 6:22:29 AM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

doesn’t it take a house bill to make law?


42 posted on 02/07/2011 6:28:16 AM PST by scooby321
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To: MNGal
*** Would something like this pass in the House? ***

Nope, not a chance in hades. Not with the one we have now.

43 posted on 02/07/2011 6:30:22 AM PST by Condor51 (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a Congressman. But I repeat myself. [Mark Twain])
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To: Will88

Exactly. Maybe Juan M’s movement will force Rubio to expose himself on immigration. That would be a very good thing.


44 posted on 02/07/2011 6:30:36 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: smalltownslick
What is it with these guys? “Test the political will.” You test it every year, and every year you get shot down, it’s pretty obvious what the “political will” is. Then you start all over again. What part of “no” don’t you understand?

I think the idea is to "test the political will," then let in ten or fifteen million additional illegals, then "test the political will" again. Repeat this procedure until the "political will" is in favor of unlimited cheap groundskeepers and drivers for the elites.

Meanwhile, build their gated compounds and gated communities, so that America looks more and more like Mexico every year. "Hey, where's the problem? There's no problem where I live."

45 posted on 02/07/2011 6:34:10 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: scooby321
doesn’t it take a house bill to make law?

The House and Senate both would have to pass an immigration bill, but since it wouldn't be an appropriation bill, it wouldn't have to originate in the House. The Senate could try to pass something, then send it to the House for consideration.

46 posted on 02/07/2011 6:42:53 AM PST by Will88
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To: rabscuttle385

47 posted on 02/07/2011 6:49:33 AM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Someone needs to arrest these jerks and bring them up on charges for treason.

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I've sent letters to both of these traitors with this included. They don't get it.


48 posted on 02/07/2011 7:35:15 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: rabscuttle385

Let us watch McCain’s number one media lapdog, Sean Hannity, gloss over this one. I know his response “McCain is a great man strong on defense”. What a joke Hannity is.


49 posted on 02/07/2011 8:32:05 AM PST by jubail
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To: Steely Tom; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Liz
I think the idea is to "test the political will," then let in ten or fifteen million additional illegals, then "test the political will" again. Repeat this procedure until the "political will" is in favor of unlimited cheap groundskeepers and drivers for the elites.

Meanwhile, build their gated compounds and gated communities, so that America looks more and more like Mexico every year. "Hey, where's the problem? There's no problem where I live."

Good summary of what is going on. What utopians and invaders don't realize is that, if they succeed in destroying the USA, the whole world will become much more miserable. I think the jihadists would consider that as their mission accomplished, but the people of Mexico do not realize what the real consequences would be.

50 posted on 02/07/2011 8:53:07 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


51 posted on 02/07/2011 8:54:29 AM PST by HiJinx (What new decade?)
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To: Cobra64

Perhaps they were distracted by Uncle Sam’s tragic loss of his left arm. :p


52 posted on 02/07/2011 8:58:26 AM PST by Politicalmom (America-The Land of the Sheep, the Home of the Caved.)
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To: rabscuttle385
the senator who ushered a comprehensive bill through the chamber in 2006, might be ready to come back.

For starters, that senator McLame never left, he just stayed quiet during his reelection bid and tried to act all conservative. Secondly, and more important, not only did Juan usher comprehensive immigration through the chamber in 2006, but in so doing, he USHERED OUT the GOP's majority in that same election. That brought in the Pelosi/Reid congress who drove spending to the moon, but because Bush was in office he got the blame. Come '08 and the 2 years of spending, along with the MSM's daily chorus of "Bush is bankrupting the country" we got the joke of the Hussein presidency. I won't even get into the pathetic performance we witnessed during his FAILED presidential run. Suffice it to say, Sarah Palin was the ONLY bright spot in his whole campaign and he let her twist in the wind half the time.

McLame deserves a great deal of the "credit" for the hopey change JOKE presidency we're suffering under today, so IMHO he should be keeping his mouth shut and laying low until retirement in 2016. He's an embarrassment, and shame on AZ for foisting him on the rest of the country.

53 posted on 02/07/2011 10:41:49 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: cripplecreek
I know my congressman won’t vote for any kind of amnesty.

Unfortunately, being from CT, I know mine will :-(

54 posted on 02/07/2011 10:46:02 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: rabscuttle385

Good idea first secure the border and we will talk about amnesty next year or maybe next decade, hell why not better yet next century.


55 posted on 02/07/2011 10:59:52 AM PST by bilhosty (Don' t tax people tax newsprint)
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To: Tupelo
I know there is no way in hell we can deport 20 million people, 6% of the entire population.

This is a straw man the left loves to use. You don't need to have mass roundups.
You do need some basic common sense enforcement such as:

1) Enforce the current laws
2) Set up a system where employers can verify status, if they hire an illegal anyway, fine them out of business.
3) Anyone being stopped for a traffic violation gets their status run. If you're here illegally, you're gone.
4) Same situation if you show up in a hospital emergency room. In such case you're patched up and deported. DONE!!
5) Uncle Sugar puts an END to any and all benefits, unless you're a citizen or holder of a VALID green card. No food stamps, UI, WIC or public education for your kids.
6) The policy of anchor babies stops TODAY!!!
7) No more "Press #1 for English" whenever you call a government entity.

After a few years of this, guess what, self-deportation begins to happen, and the cost isn't any more than what we currently pay for the current free for all immigration system.

56 posted on 02/07/2011 10:59:54 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: jubail
Let us watch McCain’s number one media lapdog, Sean Hannity, gloss over this one.

I hear ya' It's almost as pathetic as watching him slobber over Lieberman. "Well he's great on the war on terrorism." .
Yeah Sean, OK, but if we don't have a country because of his progressive policies, the terrorists win anyway.

57 posted on 02/07/2011 11:07:17 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: YankeeReb

I can agree with most if not all of your ideas.
At least one of yours is going to need a Constitutional Amendment.

Like I said, mine were a starting point for discussion.


58 posted on 02/07/2011 11:21:44 AM PST by Tupelo
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To: rabscuttle385

Commie libs like Graham and Schumer are anxious to get as many foreign and anti-American, freeloading, new ‘RAT voters in this country as they can.


59 posted on 02/07/2011 11:22:19 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Happy 100th Birthday President Reagan. America misses you.)
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To: Tupelo
I can agree with most if not all of your ideas. At least one of yours is going to need a Constitutional Amendment.

Like I said, mine were a starting point for discussion.

If you mean anchor babies, I'm not so sure. That was decided by SCOTUS interpretation of the 14th amendment. I think it would only require a reversal of the Supreme Court's decision. An amendment would clarify the issue though.

60 posted on 02/07/2011 11:28:35 AM PST by YankeeReb
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