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Spilled Milk - EPA issues regulation on milk because it contains.....OIL!!!
GOPUSA.com ^ | February 1, 2011 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 02/02/2011 5:01:17 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2

Despite the old saying, "Don't cry over spilled milk," the Environmental Protection Agency is doing just that.

We all understand why the Environmental Protection Agency was given the power to issue regulations to guard against oil spills, such as that of the Exxon Valdez in Alaska or the more recent BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. But not everyone understands that any power given to any bureaucracy for any purpose can be stretched far beyond that purpose.

In a classic example of this process, the EPA has decided that, since milk contains oil, it has the authority to force farmers to comply with new regulations to file "emergency management" plans to show how they will cope with spilled milk, how farmers will train "first responders" and build "containment facilities" if there is a flood of spilled milk.

Since there is no free lunch, all of this is going to cost the farmers both money and time that could be going into farming-- and is likely to end up costing consumers higher prices for farm products.

It is going to cost the taxpayers money as well, since the EPA is going to have to hire people to inspect farms, inspect farmers' reports and prosecute farmers who don't jump through all the right hoops in the right order. All of this will be "creating jobs," even if the tax money removed from the private sector correspondingly reduces the jobs that can be created there.

Does anyone seriously believe that any farmer is going to spill enough milk to compare with the Exxon Valdez oil spill or the BP oil spill?

Do you envision people fleeing their homes, as a flood of milk comes pouring down the mountainside, threatening to wipe out the village below?

It doesn't matter. Once the words are in the law, it makes no difference what the realities are. The bureaucracy has every incentive to stretch the meaning of those words, in order to expand its empire.


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1 posted on 02/02/2011 5:01:22 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Abolish this coven of tyrants by shutting down the EPA. They have far exceeded any original mandate they had. This was one of Richard Nixon’s worst ideas, the other being abolishing the gold backing for the dollar.


2 posted on 02/02/2011 5:05:04 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Iam1ru1-2

It’s not the same kind of “oil” anyway.

The oil in milk is fat. The oil in the gulf was petroleum.

The law is talking about petroleum, not fat. The EPA does not have the authority to regulate this.


3 posted on 02/02/2011 5:12:09 PM PST by Brookhaven (Moderates = non-thinkers)
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To: Brookhaven

Are they talking about plastic residue from a milk bottle getting into the milk. If so, they would actually be making sense, because plastics are produced from petroleum.


4 posted on 02/02/2011 5:14:11 PM PST by Morpheus2009 ("God doesn't play dice" - Albert Einstein)
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To: Morpheus2009

This is about milk in a dairy. Once it’s in plastic jugs, it wouldn’t be about farmers and their massive amounts of milk being shipped out for pasteurization.


5 posted on 02/02/2011 5:19:00 PM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Morpheus2009

No, they are talking about the oil naturally contained in milk—the milk fat. The part cheese is made from.

It is like giving the interior department regulatory authority over horses, and then having them create regulations for saw horses “it’s a horse”.


6 posted on 02/02/2011 5:19:14 PM PST by Brookhaven (Moderates = non-thinkers)
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To: kittymyrib

frankly, between opening up China, losing the gold standard, and creating the EPA, not to mention Watergate, history shows Nixon really has done a lot to destroy this country. He is looking more and more like one of our worse presidents. In fact, the 1970s will be marked by weak and destructive leadership in the American presidency between Nixon and Carter, just as there are long term problems that combine Bush and Obama.


7 posted on 02/02/2011 5:19:36 PM PST by bioqubit
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To: Iam1ru1-2

They must be dragged from their offices and tarred and feathered.

EPA is America’s worst enemy


8 posted on 02/02/2011 5:23:18 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Iam1ru1-2
...how farmers will train "first responders"...

Here's how they will do it ... lol


9 posted on 02/02/2011 5:23:18 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
There is OIL in Milk!!!


10 posted on 02/02/2011 5:24:03 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: SandRat

lol, clever


11 posted on 02/02/2011 5:26:21 PM PST by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Nothing to do with oil. It has everything to do with “regulating” (controlling)dairy farmers. Remember the flatulence tax???? or how about the Safe Food act? What we have to start asking is why it this Govt. hellbent on having so much control over farmers?


12 posted on 02/02/2011 5:28:17 PM PST by John.Galt2012 (I'll take Liberty and you can keep the "Change"!)
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To: John.Galt2012

“What we have to start asking is why it this Govt. hellbent on having so much control over farmers?”

Thats easy, control food production and you control the people.

Worked for Stalin and Mao.


13 posted on 02/02/2011 5:30:11 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

So if milk gets spilled it’s so dangerous that we need “emergency management” plans to show how they will cope with spilled milk, how farmers will train “first responders” and build “containment facilities” but they are letting us drink it?


14 posted on 02/02/2011 5:31:50 PM PST by MagnoliaB
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To: bert

Action plan for dealing with milk spills:
1. Hang up the dirty pail on the rack to be washed.
2. Wash hands with warm water and reapply Udder Balm so as not to further agitate the cow.
3. Grab a new pail.
4. Make sure the cow is secure.
5. Resume milking.


15 posted on 02/02/2011 5:32:40 PM PST by Qout
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To: SandRat

LOL!


16 posted on 02/02/2011 5:33:00 PM PST by MagnoliaB
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To: driftdiver

Yes, it started with potatoes...WIC program does not support our potato farmers.


17 posted on 02/02/2011 5:38:26 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
I've seen this story several times. It's so bizarre, I took it as satire.

Is this satire? If not, where's the proof?

18 posted on 02/02/2011 5:39:18 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Iam1ru1-2

EPA = FOOLS


19 posted on 02/02/2011 5:41:24 PM PST by SootyFoot2
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To: Iam1ru1-2
force farmers to comply with new regulations

Don't and they will send in... MILK SWAT!

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20 posted on 02/02/2011 5:51:48 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Cobra64

Don’t take ANYONE’S WORD FOR IT, as Glenn Beck says, “check out for yourself”. YOU do your homework and the investigation to find out whether this is satire or truth. Get off your duff and DO IT!!!!


21 posted on 02/02/2011 5:55:47 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2 (If a lie will be believed if it's repeated enough times, how much more the truth!!)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
I feel like I am drowning in all this crazyness.


22 posted on 02/02/2011 5:56:46 PM PST by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
You are assuming I did not try to find verification.

Cool you jets, sunshine.

You arrogant attitude sucks, and is unbecoming towards fellow FReepers.

23 posted on 02/02/2011 5:59:35 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Brookhaven
It’s not the same kind of “oil” anyway. The oil in milk is fat. The oil in the gulf was petroleum. The law is talking about petroleum, not fat. The EPA does not have the authority to regulate this.

but if they get away with it - ALL oil/fat in foods are legal game.

Think on that one.

24 posted on 02/02/2011 6:03:25 PM PST by maine-iac7
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To: kittymyrib

Defund now!


25 posted on 02/02/2011 6:07:39 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V.........................................)
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To: Spunky

I wonder how that image was created? Interesting FX.


26 posted on 02/02/2011 6:09:40 PM PST by bvw
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To: Iam1ru1-2

BTW - Would they please provide a list of all the past catastrophic milk spills - s/


27 posted on 02/02/2011 6:12:57 PM PST by maine-iac7
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To: Iam1ru1-2

So someday we may have cars that run on milk...lol


28 posted on 02/02/2011 6:16:47 PM PST by This I Wonder32460
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To: Iam1ru1-2; Cobra64
You spout off to Cobra64 “Don’t take ANYONE’S WORD FOR IT, as Glenn Beck says, “check out for yourself”. YOU do your homework and the investigation to find out whether this is satire or truth. Get off your duff and DO IT!!!!

Do it yourself - all you have to do is search “epa spilled milk” . Here ya go, You can take ti from here?

http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-msgr&p=epa%20spilled%20%20milk&type=

29 posted on 02/02/2011 6:19:11 PM PST by maine-iac7
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To: Brookhaven

“The EPA does not have the authority to regulate this.” What does the U.S. Department of Agriculture and all 50 State Departments of Agriculture say about this? I bet there are over 2 dozen Federal Depts. who have their fat little fingers in the kiddy of milk production. No wonder it’s so expensive! Time to scale back on thousands of Federal entities and let the States do their jobs.


30 posted on 02/02/2011 7:02:39 PM PST by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: maine-iac7
I saw the Sowell, RealClearPolitics, GOPUSA, etc. blogs.

Since anyone can say anything about any topic, I searched the FEDERAL EPA and FDA sites for verification.

31 posted on 02/02/2011 7:07:01 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: maine-iac7
"but if they get away with it - ALL oil/fat in foods are legal game."

Then the EPA can literally regulate individuals because they have "oil" in their skins and fat in their bodies. Hey, I wouldn't put it past them to try some sort of weird power play to force people to obey some stupid regulations they have dreamed up.

32 posted on 02/02/2011 7:07:40 PM PST by StormEye
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To: Iam1ru1-2; Cobra64

As far as I can tell the source of the EPA milk oil regulation story comes from Michigan last year. After that the story picks up in the Blogosphere with people commenting on Obama’s SOTU comment about smart regulation citing EPA’s control of Saccharine as hazardous waste even while people put it in their coffee. I suspect it is from there that Thomas Sowell picked the story up.

Links to the original stories:
http://www.michiganfarmbureau.com/farmnews/transform.php?xml=20100430/cover.xml
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2010/06/epa_classifies_milk_as_oil_for.html


33 posted on 02/02/2011 7:15:41 PM PST by Flying Circus
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To: kittymyrib

Let’s not forget his wage and price controls.


34 posted on 02/02/2011 7:22:15 PM PST by Maceman (Obama -- he's as American as nasi goreng)
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To: maine-iac7

Ok, It’s been along time since I had chemistry, but are they saying that they get to regulate any non-polar substance? Are they crazy?


35 posted on 02/02/2011 7:58:23 PM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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To: Flying Circus

I went as far as the Michigan Farm news but couldn’t find a direct reference back to the EPA, which is what I was looking for; despite the fact that people are calling me lazy.


36 posted on 02/02/2011 8:11:50 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Don’t anyone tell the EPA about butter. Or nuts. Nuts have a lot of oils too. Like peanut oil. And fish. (”Fish oil.”) Why, even some palm trees have oil. And hamburgers. Definitely don’t tell them about hamburgers!


37 posted on 02/02/2011 8:14:38 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: MagnoliaB
Get some damn cats and call them first responders. They'll clean it up quick.


38 posted on 02/02/2011 8:16:48 PM PST by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
I've been waiting for you to respond to the EPA announcement with a direct link to the EPA site. Where is it?

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39 posted on 02/02/2011 8:16:48 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: maine-iac7
BTW - Would they please provide a list of all the past catastrophic milk spills - s/

Not milk, but (for your amusement and edification) this is the first thing I thought of on reading the article: "The Great Molasses Flood of Boston"

There is an additional benefit in the article's comment section showing that liberalism truly is a mental disorder. Not quite Bush's fault, but they just can't stop themselves.
40 posted on 02/03/2011 5:59:23 AM PST by Peet (Leftists think personal liberty is so important it must be carefully rationed.)
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To: Cobra64

Oh, this is real. You can’t make this stuff up.

Here is a link to “Milk” on the EPA’s very own web site:

http://nlquery.epa.gov/epasearch/epasearch?fld=osweroe1&areaname=Emergency+Management&areacontacts=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.epa.gov%2Femergencies%2Fcontact_us.htm&areasearchurl=&result_template=epafiles_default.xsl&filter=samplefilt.hts&typeofsearch=area&querytext=milk&submit=Go

Here is the proposed exemption for milk
http://www.epa.gov/osweroe1/docs/oil/spcc/SPCCFactsheet_Milk_Jan09.pdf

However, since raw milk is never more than 4-5% fat (and if it goes too much higher than that the cow might be sick and the FDA shuts down the farm to investigate), rather than even try for an exemption. Some wise-azz farmer should claim that the FDA regulations are such that to have 1,320 gallons of “oil” the farmer needs to have 26,400 gallons of milk... or 3,000 head of cattle.

If nothing else, this would automatically exempt most family farms. Leaving it to the FDA - the EPA - the big producers - and the big consumers (like cheese producers, pizza manufactures, ben & jerry’s) to fight it out.


41 posted on 02/03/2011 7:00:56 PM PST by mickeyme
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