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Obama topping Palin in Red Arizona [ Daily Kos's PPP- again ]
www.politico.com ^ | 2-2-11 | DAN HIRSCHHORN

Posted on 02/02/2011 2:42:00 PM PST by NoLibZone

Even in Republican Arizona, Barack Obama has a healthy lead over Sarah Palin.

With the state swinging away from Democrats, having Palin on the ballot come general election time next year is Obama's best hope of winning the Grand Canyon State, according to a new poll. Democrats have taken Arizona in only one presidential race since 1952. Continue Reading

The survey by Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling found Obama topping Palin 49 percent to 41 percent in the state. That's significantly better than he fares against other candidates — Obama trails Mitt Romney by 6 points, Mike Huckabee by 4 points, and is locked in a tie with Newt Gingrich.

Distaste for Palin, home-state Sen. John McCain's 2008 running mate, drives Obama's lead, according to the poll. While 51 percent of Arizonans disapprove of Obama's job performance, 57 percent have an unfavorable view of Palin.

The survey 599 voters has a sampling error of 4 percent.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: dailykos; dailykos9thread; dialkos9thread; fakepoliticopoll; fakepoll4romney; fauxpoll4politico; freepressforpalin; palin; politico4obama; politico4romney; pppfakepoll; sarah; sraha
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To: Lakeshark

Pleeeze..........
PHHUULLEEEEZZE.............
Don’ go throwin me in that there BRIAR PATCH!!!


21 posted on 02/02/2011 3:10:33 PM PST by Flintlock
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To: NoLibZone

Yes, PPP is a Democrat outfit that oversamples Democrats and is using registered voters instead of likely voters. But we ignore at our own risk the fact that in poll after poll, irrespective of the pollster or the state being surveyed, Sarah Palin is running quite a bit behind the other Republican candidates in head-to-head matchups against Obama. Would Obama carry AZ over Palin? Of course not. But if Obama can hold on to OH, PA, MI and WI, he’ll be reelected. As much as I love Sarah, and believe that she would make a great president, I don’t want to see Obama get reelected because we nominated someone who would need to attain a remarkable improvement in public perception in order to win—remember what happened to Katherine Harris in 2006.

There are several other conservatives we can run for president who would have a much better chance of winning than would Gov. Palin; for example, even a longshot like Herman Cain would have a better chance, since he is largely unknown among voters and does not have to change drastically public perception of him, which would be Palin’s task should she run for president. And maybe Jim DeMint will run. While such candidates would start off behind in the polls to Obama, I guarantee you that Obama would be polling a much lower percentage against them than he has been polling against Palin (and there would be a much higher percentage of undecided voters). And, at the end of the day, Herman Cain and Jim DeMint are at least as conservative as Sarah is (and likely even more conservative), and will be able to bring out the conservative vote just as well as she could do (especially if Sarah campaigns for the GOP ticket, which I’m sure she would do if we nominate two conservatives).

Sarah Palin is still quite young, and she will have plenty of chances to run for president in the future. But 2012 does not look like a good year for her to run, unless she can completely change her public perception in 21 months.


22 posted on 02/02/2011 3:10:56 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: NoLibZone

One speech, or one debate, and all bets are off for the socialist scumbags.


23 posted on 02/02/2011 3:11:14 PM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: onyx

More coordinated “Stop Sarah” nonsense. Just wait and see-—there’ll be a similar poll conducted in each state each day geared toward showing that Sarah has no chance against Obama. Heck, she hasn’t even announced and certainly hasn’t begun campaigning yet, so this is all pointless.


24 posted on 02/02/2011 3:14:28 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
I think you forget how far Reagan was behind Carter in the polls mid 1980.

It was far worse than this poll that is two years out.

We won't know whether this is actually true until she declares, has run a compaign, and has presented her case to the voters.

25 posted on 02/02/2011 3:14:33 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Jim Scott

PPP= Piss Poor Polling


26 posted on 02/02/2011 3:22:46 PM PST by JaguarXKE (Life - It's 10 percent circumstances and 90 percent how you react to circumstances - Sarah Palin)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Pointless and stupid. Signs of complete despertion.


27 posted on 02/02/2011 3:23:22 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: NoLibZone

I assume these same pollsters had Democrats picking up seats in the 2010 congressional election.


28 posted on 02/02/2011 3:26:25 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: NoLibZone

Dewey Defeats Truman.


29 posted on 02/02/2011 3:36:39 PM PST by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Herman Cain and Jim DeMint are at least as conservative as Sarah is (and likely even more conservative), and will be able to bring out the conservative vote just as well as she could do


I can’t remember either DeMint or Cain ever getting huge crowds at their events. Don’t fall for these polls. The campaign hasn’t even started yet and people are begging off Sarah Palin because the media has trashed her for two years. Whoever we nominate will be trashed and who knows what lurks in their closets? Palin’s closet has been thoroughly examined, her garbage too. They found nothing. Palin is picking up steam based on her recent Facebook numbers climbing and the votes she’s getting in online popularity contests. People are learning that the media take on Palin is BS. Since Palin has already won the votes needed to get her the nomination, due to her success in all she has done since leaving office, the only hope the dems have is to convince her not to run. Hence, the polls.

Let’s give our democratic process a chance to work. If she is the best candidate, she will prevail, get the nomination and beat Obama.


30 posted on 02/02/2011 3:39:37 PM PST by excopconservative
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To: NoLibZone

Kos’s pollsters, and even they can’t get the incumbent over 50% against Palin—before she’s even started her campaign.

Ha ha!!!


31 posted on 02/02/2011 3:47:46 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: excopconservative; AuH2ORepublican

Exactly. Duncan Hunter was a good conservative, too, and he barely registered at the polls.

Too many people on the right still don’t realize how special Palin is, though I think they will once she gets rolling in a campaign.


32 posted on 02/02/2011 3:50:33 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: NoLibZone

Moogly ain’t going to beat the Lady. Period.


33 posted on 02/02/2011 3:59:13 PM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: NoLibZone

Public Policy Propaganda


34 posted on 02/02/2011 9:11:59 PM PST by Moorings
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; onyx

-—”More coordinated “Stop Sarah” nonsense”-—

Yup. Lots of folks worried about this candidate who “just can’t win.” Strange.........

PPP has Obama winning about 45 states now. RVs, oversampling Dems and Indies, focuing on big cities...........and anti-Palin folks pretend not to notice the numbers game they’re playing.

Can’t wait until she announces!


35 posted on 02/03/2011 7:27:52 AM PST by TitansAFC ("Mike Pence's Amnesty plan is the '86 Amnesty with a trip home tacked on." - The Heritage Foundation)
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To: TitansAFC; All
Predict the Next Red State That the Daily Kos Pollster Will Show Obama Beating Palin/Open Thread
36 posted on 02/03/2011 7:37:16 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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