Skip to comments.Obama topping Palin in Red Arizona [ Daily Kos's PPP- again ]
Posted on 02/02/2011 2:42:00 PM PST by NoLibZone
Even in Republican Arizona, Barack Obama has a healthy lead over Sarah Palin.
With the state swinging away from Democrats, having Palin on the ballot come general election time next year is Obama's best hope of winning the Grand Canyon State, according to a new poll. Democrats have taken Arizona in only one presidential race since 1952. Continue Reading
The survey by Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling found Obama topping Palin 49 percent to 41 percent in the state. That's significantly better than he fares against other candidates Obama trails Mitt Romney by 6 points, Mike Huckabee by 4 points, and is locked in a tie with Newt Gingrich.
Distaste for Palin, home-state Sen. John McCain's 2008 running mate, drives Obama's lead, according to the poll. While 51 percent of Arizonans disapprove of Obama's job performance, 57 percent have an unfavorable view of Palin.
The survey 599 voters has a sampling error of 4 percent.
In a fictitious face off , PPP could prove Obama over Ronald Reagan by 20 points.
Well at least the polls for Senator Nelson in Nebraska show him losing and those polls are believed so we are not all bad. If only the poll showed Palin winning then the poll would be accurate around here.
The survey 599 voters has a sampling error of 4 percent.
So 4% error each way may mean 51+4 = 55% disapproval for 0bama
57-4 = 53% unfavorable for Palin.
I think Palin has a better shot at improving her numbers than Barry.
Spreading the lies.
Public Policy Polling is useless. It might as well be called DNC Polling. Whomever they claim can’t beat Obama, just assume the opposite is true. In this case, it’s easy.
Do these libs ever give up? Im not buying it...
I say BLLLLLLSHhhhT
How do they explain the state having two republican senators, a republican governor, and a big republican majority in the legislature?
Oh, never mind, I forgot-—libs don’t know the meaning of the truth. In fact the truth is their worst enemy.
Doesn’t mean a lick until the campaign gets underway. It’s an effort to demoralize. Many here on FR are cheering with Obama and the msm. How does it feel to be on Obama’s team guys? If Sarah runs and all the polls show her down in the summer of 2012 then I’ll start to worry.
Just for a second, think about how incredibly dumb this poll is.
Palin was the FIRST one out of the chute to stand up for AZ’s citizens & Arizona’s governor, Jan Brewer, in defense of AZs immigration law. Palin even cut commercials to help the state raise money to defend the law. Gov. Brewer won re-election by a pretty healthy margin.
But I’m supposed to believe that Arizonans will vote for the guy whose administration is suing THEM and trying to prevent the implementation of that law? As opposed to the candidate that came out on the side of the citizensand actually helped them? Btw, Giffords barely won re-election in that state. But they want Obama, eh? LMAO
Sometimes the propaganda just takes off it’s clothes and stands nekkid right in front of you, so you can’t miss it.
"Some reports are that Politico is this far
up the backside of Romney and Obama."
I predict many more of these PPP polls showing Obama over Sarah.
Who is paying for them?
Newt, Mitt? or DeMmint?
Yeah but people in AZ had a choice between JD and disgusting McCain. I was offered a free golf business trip to Scottsdale and said no thanks.
Not DeMint. Maybe Mitt or Newt. What was the sample? 500 people? I bet that cost $2,000 if that much.
PPL polls and all polls are meaningless until candidates actually announce. I don’t know why this rates as news, except at politico-obama.com?
Nailed it. Pissant will be very happy when he finds this thread so he can throw around his lib talking points.........
In any campaign, the most prominent strategy is to deny your opponent’s electability.
Without regard to truth or accuracy.
Polls are not going to influence me one way or the other. Polls like this are invalid. If a poll like this influnces people then they are weak minded sheep.
I remember January and February 1991, when George Bush was so far up in the polls that pretty much nobody on the Democratic side wanted to run in 1992, except Jerry Brown...and Bill Clinton. Barry isn’t that far up. Nowhere near.
I'm sure they're trustworthy...../s
Don’ go throwin me in that there BRIAR PATCH!!!
Yes, PPP is a Democrat outfit that oversamples Democrats and is using registered voters instead of likely voters. But we ignore at our own risk the fact that in poll after poll, irrespective of the pollster or the state being surveyed, Sarah Palin is running quite a bit behind the other Republican candidates in head-to-head matchups against Obama. Would Obama carry AZ over Palin? Of course not. But if Obama can hold on to OH, PA, MI and WI, he’ll be reelected. As much as I love Sarah, and believe that she would make a great president, I don’t want to see Obama get reelected because we nominated someone who would need to attain a remarkable improvement in public perception in order to win—remember what happened to Katherine Harris in 2006.
There are several other conservatives we can run for president who would have a much better chance of winning than would Gov. Palin; for example, even a longshot like Herman Cain would have a better chance, since he is largely unknown among voters and does not have to change drastically public perception of him, which would be Palin’s task should she run for president. And maybe Jim DeMint will run. While such candidates would start off behind in the polls to Obama, I guarantee you that Obama would be polling a much lower percentage against them than he has been polling against Palin (and there would be a much higher percentage of undecided voters). And, at the end of the day, Herman Cain and Jim DeMint are at least as conservative as Sarah is (and likely even more conservative), and will be able to bring out the conservative vote just as well as she could do (especially if Sarah campaigns for the GOP ticket, which I’m sure she would do if we nominate two conservatives).
Sarah Palin is still quite young, and she will have plenty of chances to run for president in the future. But 2012 does not look like a good year for her to run, unless she can completely change her public perception in 21 months.
One speech, or one debate, and all bets are off for the socialist scumbags.
More coordinated “Stop Sarah” nonsense. Just wait and see-—there’ll be a similar poll conducted in each state each day geared toward showing that Sarah has no chance against Obama. Heck, she hasn’t even announced and certainly hasn’t begun campaigning yet, so this is all pointless.
It was far worse than this poll that is two years out.
We won't know whether this is actually true until she declares, has run a compaign, and has presented her case to the voters.
PPP= Piss Poor Polling
Pointless and stupid. Signs of complete despertion.
I assume these same pollsters had Democrats picking up seats in the 2010 congressional election.
Dewey Defeats Truman.
Herman Cain and Jim DeMint are at least as conservative as Sarah is (and likely even more conservative), and will be able to bring out the conservative vote just as well as she could do
Let’s give our democratic process a chance to work. If she is the best candidate, she will prevail, get the nomination and beat Obama.
Kos’s pollsters, and even they can’t get the incumbent over 50% against Palin—before she’s even started her campaign.
Exactly. Duncan Hunter was a good conservative, too, and he barely registered at the polls.
Too many people on the right still don’t realize how special Palin is, though I think they will once she gets rolling in a campaign.
Moogly ain’t going to beat the Lady. Period.
Public Policy Propaganda
-—”More coordinated Stop Sarah nonsense”-—
Yup. Lots of folks worried about this candidate who “just can’t win.” Strange.........
PPP has Obama winning about 45 states now. RVs, oversampling Dems and Indies, focuing on big cities...........and anti-Palin folks pretend not to notice the numbers game they’re playing.
Can’t wait until she announces!