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Alien life deemed impossible by analysis of 500 planets
The Daily Telegraph ^ | January 23, 2011 | Heidi Blake

Posted on 01/23/2011 9:38:58 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Howard Smith, a senior astrophysicist at Harvard, made the claim that we are alone in the universe after an analysis of the 500 planets discovered so far showed all were hostile to life.

Dr Smith said the extreme conditions found so far on planets discovered outside out Solar System are likely to be the norm, and that the hospitable conditions on Earth could be unique.

“We have found that most other planets and solar systems are wildly different from our own. They are very hostile to life as we know it,” he said.

He pointed to stars such as HD10180, which sparked great excitement when it was found to be orbited by a planet of similar size and appearance to Earth.

But the similarities turned out to be superficial. The planet lies less than two million miles from its sun, meaning it is roasting hot, stripped of its atmosphere and blasted by radiation.

Many of the other planets have highly elliptical orbits which cause huge variations in temperature which prevent water remaining liquid, thus making it impossible for life to develop.

A separate team of scientists recently declared the chance of aliens existing on a newly discovered Earth-like planet “100 per cent”.

Professor Steven Vogt , of the Carnegie institution in Washington, said he had “no doubt” extraterrestrial life would be found on a small, rocky planet found orbiting the red dwarf star Gliese 581 last September.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alienlife; carnegieinstitution; demagogue; gliese581; harvard; hd10180; howardsmith; panspermia; phonyscience; quackery; scientism; space; stevenvogt; universe; xplanets
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They obviously didn’t look in Washington D.C.


21 posted on 01/23/2011 9:51:09 AM PST by Be_Politically_Erect (Sailing Against My Will On A Ship Of Fools)
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To: LOC1
Let's see, we have found earth like life on one out of 501 planets (earth itself). That is a success rate of 0.2%. Now how many planets are there? Multiply that by 0.2% and the number of potential life supporting planets is very, very large.

Lots of people talk about the number of potential planets that could support life. But the universe is a finite number of years old.

What if we're first?

22 posted on 01/23/2011 9:52:42 AM PST by paulycy (Liberals suck all the joy out of America. Make them stop.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Check this simulation out it’s very cool

http://www.nowykurier.com/toys/gravity/gravity.html


23 posted on 01/23/2011 9:53:18 AM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Howard Smith, a senior astrophysicist at Harvard, made the claim that we are alone in the universe after an analysis of the 500 planets..."

Hopefully, this moron is old, and will die before he's embarrassed for all time by this stupid, premature pronouncement. History is replete with examples of scientists making wildly inaccurate predictions.

I suppose that he never stopped to realize that it's just possible that his sample size is too small, and that the incidence of earthlike planets might be 1 in 10,000. Perhaps it's only one in a million.

This is yet another example of modern day scientists weakening the public's confidence in the field.

24 posted on 01/23/2011 9:53:25 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ok, so they analyzed 500 liberals - what does that prove?


25 posted on 01/23/2011 9:53:35 AM PST by JaguarXKE (Life - It's 10 percent circumstances and 90 percent how you react to circumstances - Sarah Palin)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Pinheads like him have been making false conclusions since the beginning of time. He hasn’t seen but 0.0000000000001% of all planets, yet, he thinks that’s a good enough sample.


26 posted on 01/23/2011 9:55:22 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Mr. K

If he believes in global warming, then he already lives in an alternate universe, with skittle-pooping unicorns and such. How many planets were checked over there?


27 posted on 01/23/2011 9:56:02 AM PST by Tax Government (Democrat: "I'm driving to Socialism at 95 mph." Republican: "Observe the speed limit.")
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To: null and void
Given that our current extra-solar planet detection methods are best at finding super-massive planets close in to their primary star, it is hardly surprising that most of the planets discovered are hostile to life as we know it.

You should take that idiot's job and his salary.

28 posted on 01/23/2011 9:57:25 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: JaguarXKE

Even if only .001 percent of stars have planets with life,
with billions of stars per galaxy and billions of galaxies,
that’s still a pretty big number.


29 posted on 01/23/2011 9:57:44 AM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
They are very hostile to life as we know it,” he said.

The same can be said about Planned Parenthood.

30 posted on 01/23/2011 9:58:54 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Howard Smith, a senior astrophysicist at Harvard, made the claim that we are alone in the universe

Professor Steven Vogt , of the Carnegie institution in Washington, said he had “no doubt” extraterrestrial life would be found

Ah, another one of those annoying articles where the headline totally contradicts the article.

31 posted on 01/23/2011 9:59:29 AM PST by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: paulycy

Possible. Wouldn’t count on it though.

More likely we are alone than first.


32 posted on 01/23/2011 10:01:51 AM PST by BenKenobi
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

With comments like this, Dr. Smith is clearly an attention whore, and probably should not be teaching.


33 posted on 01/23/2011 10:02:58 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Tax Government

I confess to, and apologize for having taken cheap, joking shot at someone who said nothing ever afaik about global warming.


34 posted on 01/23/2011 10:03:10 AM PST by Tax Government (Democrat: "I'm driving to Socialism at 95 mph." Republican: "Observe the speed limit.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

500 planets isn’t even a drop in the proverbial bucket. I have no doubt extraterrestrial life is rare, given the conditions needed for a planet to be in the habitable zone. But impossible? If even only one out of a hundred million planets is capable of producing life as we understand it, that still leaves 40 or 50 likely candidates in the Milky Way galaxy alone.

There is, of course, also the possibility that life has evolved in ways we haven’t fully grasped. Don’t want to head off into Star Trek land, but we do have bacteria right here on Earth that feed on jet fuel and other exotic materials. It’s not impossible that there is some form of bacteria or other primitive life to be found in the seas of Titan and several other moons of Jupiter and Saturn.


35 posted on 01/23/2011 10:05:17 AM PST by DemforBush (I got three passports, a couple of visas. You don't even know my real name..)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They have not even seen a planet nor another solar system only the effects they have on the stars they orbit the tiny little tug on the stars themselves so how can they tell anything?


36 posted on 01/23/2011 10:06:28 AM PST by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
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To: Windflier

We can’t even detect earth sized planets yet!

Let alone pinpoint the system location either. Anything over 50 light years away we could be out by a light year from the true distance. Lots of work still to do.


37 posted on 01/23/2011 10:06:57 AM PST by BenKenobi
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Alien life deemed impossible by analysis of 500 planets

Heck, I can't find intelligent life amongst 500 democrats.

He's going to have to look harder.

38 posted on 01/23/2011 10:07:46 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: clamper1797
LOL I once worked in Australia and one local guy told me MAGPAIS was unike to Australia only, go figure
39 posted on 01/23/2011 10:08:46 AM PST by munin (Enki did it,)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

But the 500 planets studied are the rule. Too cold, too hot, too irradiated, too something. Study 500 million planets and you’ll find the same thing: The conditions for intelligent life are incredibly, infinitesimally rare.


40 posted on 01/23/2011 10:09:01 AM PST by denydenydeny (Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak-Adams)
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