Opponents speak out against tuition vouchers [PA]

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | January 20, 2011 | Tom Barnes

[Trailerpark Badass]

Not really - a voucher system would also let the private school turn away the troublemakers - that's an essential element

Until accepting a certain percentage of "developmentally disabled" and "economically disadvantaged" students becomes a condition for reimbursement of those vouchers.

And an "approved curriculum."

Vouchers suck. Lame-o idea for cheapskates.

[Elle Bee]

there's a plan in the pipeline here in Florida and those are not conditions

Let the state and the do-gooders in the NEA handle that

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[triumphant values]

You can't be that naive.

Obama Administration Targets 'Disparate Impact' of Discipline

Federal officials are getting the word out that addressing racial disparities in school discipline is a high priority, and they plan to use “disparate-impact analysis” in enforcing school discipline cases—a legal course of action that some civil rights lawyers contend was neglected under the administration of President George W. Bush.

“Regrettably, students of color are receiving different and harsher disciplinary punishments than whites for the same or similar infractions, and they are disproportionately impacted by zero-tolerance policies—a fact that only serves to exacerbate already deeply entrenched disparities in many communities,” Thomas E. Perez, the assistant attorney general for civil rights at the U.S. Department of Justice, recently said at a conference on school discipline and civil rights, according to a transcript of his speech.

Education Week

And just wait til the federal judges see who is and isn't getting in under these vouchers.

Come on, there hasn't been a right to freedom of association in this country in 40 years and it's ten times worse if you take the king's schilling

[triumphant values]

there's a plan in the pipeline here in Florida and those are not conditions

Those aren't the conditions yet . Get the private schools hooked on the money and then change the rules.

Just like they hooked the hospitals on Medicare money and then passed a law stating they couldn't refuse anyone emergency room care with no reimbursement provisions.

You sure are trusting of the government's camel nose poking into the tent. How's that worked for us so far?

[Elle Bee]

there simply has to be a free market component ... and you can't expect goverment to do it for you ... you have to get up and scream - elect people who hold your point of view and hold them to it .... otherwise we can all just enjoy what we have

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[Minipax]

Not really - a voucher system would also let the private school turn away the troublemakers - that's an essential element

I can picture the lawsuits now. Do you really think the government will allow private schools to turn troublemaking urban blacks away en masse?

[Niuhuru]

But if they accepted the money, they would haev to obey the state in acceptance.

[itsahoot]

Eliminating strikes and tenure

You eliminate tenure and there won't be a single Christian Conservative left in the system. It is unwise to assume a principal is anything other than a leftist, otherwise they don't get their job.

[Elle Bee]

all you have to do is set a standard and add a price on to the tuition ... as private schools now operate

or as they operated in DC .... Scott has brough the former head of the DC school district on board

AND close the Department of Education

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[Elle Bee]

you know they are our employees

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[triumphant values]

I can picture the lawsuits now.

The petitions for the courts are probably already written up and stuffed away in an ACLU filing cabinet, just needing names to fill in the blanks.

[Trailerpark Badass]

there's a plan in the pipeline here in Florida and those are not conditions

I'm sure you meant to say, "not conditions NOW."

Why vouchers? Why not a tax credit?

While I'm sure tax credits wouldn't eliminate the chance of govt meddling down the line, it would be much harder to get away with.

[Elle Bee]

I would always agree with reducing taxes

But they soak everyone for the schools now and those that use the schools and roads and such already get a huge tax credit ... it's the Homestead Exemption - one of the most unfair tax exemptions on the books

the people who vote on the tax increases are exempt form the increase by the Homestead Exemption but they are the ones who reap the benefits of the spending

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[Trailerpark Badass]

there simply has to be a free market component

There already is, and I pay dearly for it.

[Elle Bee]

twice

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[brityank]

Thanks again; seems that Charlotte Iserbyt’s article shows us just why we have so many problems convincing conservatives as well as liberals how to fix the problems of our country.