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Bill Maher: Lack Of Government Health Care Leads To Crazy People Buying Guns
Mediaite ^ | 1/15/11 | Frances Martel

Posted on 01/15/2011 6:20:35 PM PST by markomalley

Like most of the media this week, Bill Maher and his Real Time panel last night spent a great deal of time trying to explain the reasons why the Arizona shootings last week occurred. And while it was clear that Jared Loughner committed the acts because of mental problems, the question was why people like him turn to violence in the first place. One suggestion Maher put on the table: America’s lack of universal health care.

The official topic at hand was gun control, and gun culture in certain parts of the country. Maher noted that it appears “half the country is armed and half isn’t,” leading to a troubling cultural divide, and unevenly distributing violent crime. Looking for a different model, the panel turned toward Canada, which has strict but not entirely prohibitive gun laws and one of the lowest crime rates in the world. Thomson Reuters Global Editor-at-Large Chrystia Freeland brought her own personal experience to the debate, having been raised in Calgary, and pointing out that, despite people owning guns (including her dad), shootings are few and far between. Keeping with the Canada theme, she also noted that bank regulations had helped Canada avoid a problematic economic situation, and that they have government-subsidized health care.

Maher pounced on this last bit to return to the topic at hand, but didn’t make the conventional connection. Many will argue that lack of adequate mental health services will keep a crazy person crazy, and thus in some cases attract them to violence and make them more likely to commit violent acts. From this skeleton of an argument, Maher constructs something slightly more elaborate, and significantly flimsier:

“Because we don’t have government health care– that’s one reason why a crazy person gets a gun, because, you know what? It’s hard for a crazy person to get a job, so therefore it’s hard for a crazy person to get health care in a country that doesn’t have government [health care].”

The argument doesn’t really speak to gun regulation at all so much as the desires of crazy people to pick up guns, so the panel steered towards debating mental health over gun control instead, but couldn’t tie them together again the way Maher was attempting to.


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1 posted on 01/15/2011 6:20:36 PM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley
Bill Maher: Lack Of Government Health Care Leads To Crazy People Buying Guns... Or Something

Fixed it.

2 posted on 01/15/2011 6:23:18 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: markomalley

Maher ranted on, “See, I even went out and bought one!”


3 posted on 01/15/2011 6:23:57 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: markomalley

The fact that liberals seem to encourage and enable psychosis doesn’t help much either.


4 posted on 01/15/2011 6:25:01 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: markomalley

If Bill Maher talks, then the public becomes more ignorant.
Bill Maher talks.
Therefore the public becomes more ignorant.


5 posted on 01/15/2011 6:25:09 PM PST by Per-Ling
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To: markomalley

But what rational explanation is there for people watching Maher in the first place?


6 posted on 01/15/2011 6:25:28 PM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: markomalley
It’s hard for a crazy person to get a job, so therefore it’s hard for a crazy person to get health care in a country that doesn’t have government [health care].”

Bull****! Arizona has AHCCCS. (Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System) Being unemployed is one way to become eligible for it. Maher needs to stick to telling his dumb jokes.

7 posted on 01/15/2011 6:25:48 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("New laws are always a "good idea" until the first time you have to enforce them." - Unknown)
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To: markomalley

Do you think that much stupid hurts?


8 posted on 01/15/2011 6:26:32 PM PST by GeronL (How DARE you have an opinion!!)
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To: markomalley

“”America’s lack of universal health care””

Boy! that ought to cover a host of problems in this country...it will work for the libs anyway until Maher thinks up a better reason.


9 posted on 01/15/2011 6:27:11 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: markomalley
Lack Of Brains Leads To Crazy People Watching Bill Maher.
10 posted on 01/15/2011 6:27:41 PM PST by Happy Rain
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To: markomalley

Maher thinks the Tucson shooting was due to lack of free health care. At least one California university chancellor thinks it was caused by Arizona’s laws attempting to address their illegal aliens problem. Michelle Obama probably thinks it was caused by fast food ... the inmates really are running the asylum.


11 posted on 01/15/2011 6:28:24 PM PST by tumblindice (Today, Zombie Czar Chris Williams' head fell off. More at 11.)
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So is Maher saying that if the government would pay for it, he’d get mental health care?


12 posted on 01/15/2011 6:28:54 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: markomalley

Billy boy has never met a fallacy or leap of logic he didn’t like.

One of my all-time favorites was his “proof” that people in Socrates’ time lived longer than they do now because of the Mediterranean diet they lived on.


13 posted on 01/15/2011 6:29:30 PM PST by DemforBush (I got three passports, a couple of visas. You don't even know my real name..)
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To: markomalley

So Bill Maher is trying to rationalize the actions of a crazy person. Finally a topic on which he has some authority.


14 posted on 01/15/2011 6:30:29 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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Bill Maher: Lack Of Government Health Care Leads To Crazy People Buying Guns What leads to Bill Maher?
15 posted on 01/15/2011 6:30:42 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Thank you.


16 posted on 01/15/2011 6:31:15 PM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: markomalley

LOL...what a moron.


17 posted on 01/15/2011 6:33:43 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: DemforBush

As Bill Buckley once said about a statement made by former Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas: “If false analogies were horses sententious idiots might ride”.


18 posted on 01/15/2011 6:34:35 PM PST by Nucluside (ready)
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To: Texas Eagle
What leads to Bill Maher?

Well, you start with a Saturday night and a cheap bottle of wine...

19 posted on 01/15/2011 6:34:55 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("New laws are always a "good idea" until the first time you have to enforce them." - Unknown)
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To: markomalley
Ronald Reagan said it best: "It's not that our Liberal friends are ignorant. It's that they know so much that isn't so."

Although, in this case, it might be a little of both.

20 posted on 01/15/2011 6:35:10 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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