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Stephen Hawking to Speak at Caltech
Pasadena Now ^ | January 12, 2011

Posted on 01/15/2011 1:46:39 PM PST by concentric circles

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To: golux

Dr. Albert Mohler has Hawking pegged
http://www.albertmohler.com/2010/09/07/no-need-for-god-stephen-hawking-defies-divine-creation/


21 posted on 01/15/2011 3:01:40 PM PST by balch3
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Stephen Hawking has convinced himself that there is enough energy in the quantum flux to spawn the Universe.

If that’s true then perhaps it happened more than once. In fact maybe universes are being spawned everywhere every instant. Many

If the spontaneous generation or the first cell was improbable then an infinite number of parallel universes would make it a certainty. We’re just lucky to live in a universe where we happened along. ;)

Choose your God. The quantum flux or the Creator who loved you enough to die for you.


22 posted on 01/15/2011 3:07:33 PM PST by UnChained (Obama is destroying the dollar...Why?)
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To: concentric circles
Professor Hawking has a good sense of humour.

Stephen Hawking comments on being on The Simpsons: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ei-pKsNiINk

23 posted on 01/15/2011 3:28:02 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: UnChained

You are the one drawing conclusions on the subject of whether or not a certain limited idea of G-d fits neatly with certain limited observations. Hawking’s, mine, or yours. These things are unimportant - ask Job, Moses, or Abraham, if you don’t wish to ask Jesus.

G-d is infinite, and we are finite. This means that by definition we cannot understand G-d. We can worship Him, and accept his Word, (and accept the notion that he had a special Son, for instance, etc.) but we cannot fully understand G-d, or His Creation.

We can, however, keep reaching.

Do you think it is sinful to do so? Is astrophysics also “of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?” What about nuclear physics? What about... Physics?

I don’t think Hawking’s brand of scientific inquiry is wrong at all. He may have beliefs that are different from my own (or he may not), but he has spent his life as a pioneer, guiding us through certain deepening mysteries of the known and unknown Universe.

That is a higher and “holier” calling, to me, than, for instance, feeding wafers to folks once a week whilst promising them eternal deliverance if only they’ll fondle a graven image, or sitting in a confessional listening to dirty stories, or for that matter re-inventing your notion of G-d on a daily basis in accordance with shifting interpretations of the “Testaments” and the whims of whatever Post-Reformation Spiritual Assembly strikes your fancy. Now that’s just me. You can and should feel differently, in accordance with your personal convictions regarding the Almighty.

But can it possibly bother us that He may or may not have created more than one Universe, or a quadrillion at once, when we cannot even fathom the most fundamental aspects of the forces (i.e. gravity) which govern our own tiny blessed, accursed, floating sphere?

To me it all just adds to the wonder of creation, and the glory of G-d.

We DO agree that it’s a sphere, now...

Right?


24 posted on 01/15/2011 3:51:15 PM PST by golux
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Since asked..

Yes, the Earth is roughly a sphere and roughly 7,000 years old. The cosmos may be considerably older yet still was created supernaturally on day 4 of the creation week.

There, I’m properly pigeonholed.


25 posted on 01/15/2011 5:36:41 PM PST by UnChained (Obama is destroying the dollar...Why?)
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...And who made the “Quantum Flux?”

LOL.

Reminds me of a story from Albert Einstein’s career. At some point he was explaining certain facets of General Relativity to a non-scientist crowd, when some old lady who had had enough of what she perceived to be nonsense blurted out from the aisles:

“That’s all fine and dandy, Dr. Einstein, but you can’t prove it. Well I say the whole Universe rests on the back of a giant turtle!”

Einstein paused and responded:

“What is the turtle standing on?”

The audience turned to hear her response:

“Very clever, Dr. Einstein... But it’s turtles all the way down!”


26 posted on 01/16/2011 5:26:44 AM PST by golux
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To: golux

God is the Fourth dimensional observer or if you believe in more dimensions than the usual three, the X dimensional observer to indicate that the transcendent creator is not contained by what he caused.

I admit that I tend to try to interpret reality within a worldview based on a literal understanding of the Bible. This is actually logical if one starts with a personal knowledge of God as a given. Everything HAS to conform to what you know.

I tend to be a young Earth creationist. Until recently I thought that the Cosmos had to be young also, but a photograph of galaxies in collision that appeared to be shredding each other for over 100k years forced me to change my mind. If the creation account was endorsed by Jesus then it must be true also. My current best “fit” theory has God using relativistic effects to allow vast ages for the Cosmos that was created on day 4 of the creation week 7000 years ago.

So far the God that I know personally seems to want me to accept the Bible literally.

If we posit that GOD used the quantum flux to spawn the Universe and perhaps a infinite number of parallel universes then well and good. I have a hard time with the idea since that doesn’t seem to agree with what he had Moses write down for us.

It’s not a belief when you know. In the Universe of those who know Him he is more certain a constant than the speed of light. While I might be wrong in my interpretation of the Bible I can’t be wrong about Him.

He alone is transcendent enough to be the “cause” of boundless time and space if indeed they are boundless.

Even though the concepts of “outside” and “before” are paradoxical when talking about the spacetime continuum that is still the best way to visualize the transcendent Creator of the Universe. He caused it and isn’t contained by it.

Stephen Hawking’s theory is an attempt to deny the existence of the personally knowable God. I can be confident that he is wrong in his reasoning on that score.

Regards


27 posted on 01/16/2011 10:30:02 AM PST by UnChained (Obama is destroying the dollar...Why?)
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I agree with you and am blessed to have received your insights and thoughts.


28 posted on 01/16/2011 1:18:51 PM PST by golux
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