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Hawaii Governor Revives Birth Certificate Wars Because He Wants to End the Controversy. Uhu
David Horowitz's NewsReal Blog ^ | Calvin Freiburger

Posted on 12/28/2010 5:56:06 AM PST by Michael van der Galien

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To: Georgia Girl 2

He burned all of his personal papers on his deathbed. By then it didn’t matter.


41 posted on 12/28/2010 7:20:45 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: Michael van der Galien

I’m not too impressed with Calvin Cheeseburger’s ability to analyze this situation. If this is what passes for a Hillsdale College intellect I am doubly disappointed. Please Horowitz, I know you are trying to help reform our crappy universities but why do you have a lot of these Jr. Jim Bobs writing this juvenile crap on your website?


42 posted on 12/28/2010 7:34:20 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Michael van der Galien

Obama (Zero) is a LIAR.

You can’t believe anything he says or what others say on his behalf.

He is attempting to destroy America and he needs to be stopped.


43 posted on 12/28/2010 7:34:54 AM PST by ADSUM (Democracy works when citizens get involved and keep government honest.)
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To: spokeshave

Correctamundo. Lil’ Barry’s place of birth matters not a whit. Pappy Obama wasn’t a U.S. citizen and Momma wasn’t of age to confer citizenship. It doesn’t matter if he was born in Hawaii, Osh Kosh, or at the feet of the Statue of Liberty, swaddled in the flag from Iwo Jima, placed in a manger with his head resting on a pillow made from the Constitution stuffed with eagle feathers and wet nursed by Betsy Frickin’ Ross...HE’S NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT. HE’S NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!!!


44 posted on 12/28/2010 7:41:56 AM PST by 762X51
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To: Michael van der Galien

So if he applied for and was granted foreign student stipends at college that would be fraud, right?


45 posted on 12/28/2010 7:45:15 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: Portcall24
So they’ve finally been able to create a fake which they believe is ironclad.

I thought the same thing on the Chrissy Matthews thread.. LOL.

46 posted on 12/28/2010 7:57:42 AM PST by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Inwoodian

In my thoughts before going to bed, I forgot to mention a very plausible idea concerning Obambie’s birth.

Keep in mind that his mother was a radical hippie.
Radical Hippies do not go to hospitals to give birth.
They more likely give birth in the forest, or in the home of a midwife, or whatever.
Obozo obviously does not remember his birth, any more then the rest of us.
It would explain the reason for no birth certificate, other then the cheap walk-in and request.
It does not, however, explain the faults in the walk-in certificate, such as father’s race...African?..
It is something to think about, and to wonder why he has not used this as his excuse.


47 posted on 12/28/2010 8:03:46 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Michael van der Galien
"All the evidence we have overwhelmingly indicates that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii and is constitutionally eligible for the presidency"

Show me...

48 posted on 12/28/2010 8:08:46 AM PST by Mr. K ('Profiling' you is worse than grabbing your balls)
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To: Inwoodian
Legally, he was a Kenyan citizen as an adult, per Kenyan law until age 23. And Kenya had rights to declare him as Kenyan because of his fathers citizenship. So he was entitled to take advantage of any benefits designated for foreign students. He also carried the race card, and that would entitle the holder to even more benefits, and still does.
49 posted on 12/28/2010 8:16:29 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: bigdaddy45
I know its not a popular opinion here, but I happen to believe Obama WAS born in Hawaii for one reason only. Both Hawaiian newspapers posted birth announcements shortly after his birth

The problem with that argument is that Obama Sr never lived at the address listed in the birth announcements. [ http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=226349 ] The home was owned by the Lefforges who had small children of their own. [ http://constitutionallyspeaking.wordpress.com/2009/08/02/obama-fukino-you-have-some-more-splainin-to-do/ ]

50 posted on 12/28/2010 8:17:35 AM PST by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: FS11

Not true. It all hinges on the British law at the time and their view of legitimate birth versus illegitimate birth.

Sr was already married. He could not legally marry Ann in the US. It is VERY POSSIBLE that Obambi was not a British citizen if born on US soil.

Did they have a marriage somewhere else? I don’t know.

I am not for sure they ever had a real marriage in the US.

Too many murky details..as is befitting a clan that might have been involved with the Spooks.


51 posted on 12/28/2010 8:19:06 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: patlin

So? The point is, if Obama was born in Kenya, why would there be a birth announcement in a Hawaiian newspaper a week later? Especially in 1961 when communication (especially from Africa!!) was much more limited that it is now. What would be the motive?

Obama’s father was an African Nationalist and hated the United States. If anything he would have TRUMPETED the fact that his son was born in Africa.


52 posted on 12/28/2010 8:25:58 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: 762X51

This is incorrect. The law was different for out of wedlock births on foreign soil..and Obambi’s birth was out of wedlock -unless Ann married Sr in Kenya- which I don’t believe would have been possible given the rules on tribal verus statutory marriages..whites versus blacks, etc.

There is too much disinformation on this subject floating around by people pursuing an agenda. I have been appalled at lawyers who have totally ignored the issue of Sr already having a wife and how that effects this whole issue.


53 posted on 12/28/2010 8:27:50 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Michael van der Galien
Methinks the gov protests too much.

He has probably got word that several states may be passing election laws prior to 2012 that require long-form birth certificates for POTUS candidates.

54 posted on 12/28/2010 8:27:59 AM PST by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Michael van der Galien

ping


55 posted on 12/28/2010 8:35:48 AM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: Michael van der Galien
This is just a political campaign to fight “Birthers”.

This is not about releasing records. It's coordinated with Obama. Abercrombie states up front that having Obama release his records is not going to happen. Once Obama steps in and releases a record on his own accord, it makes full release a must do. Obama cant cherry pick. Abercrombie is hoping to cherry pick on his behalf.

This shows that it is affecting Obama. There is no way in hell Abercrombie is doing this on his own.

56 posted on 12/28/2010 8:46:54 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: bvw

I cannot understand how the teeming masses fail to understand that his father’s dual citizen ship precludes his being eligible to run for President let alone be one. Hell, the man strikes out and is given a home run while he literally steals the bases and destroys home plate. He may take us down with his idiot support base and greedy handlers.


57 posted on 12/28/2010 8:49:46 AM PST by mcshot (So this is how it feels like to be flushed. The "that's impossible" days are here.)
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To: mcshot

Like many such massively sworn-to falsehoods: a gang sign, a mark of fidelity. To swear to a falsehood is a validation, a proof-mark, to which ‘gang’, which power group a denier or truth belongs.

It is a strong mark of belonging, because it shows the whole commitment of the person to the cause, to the group, to the gang, because the commitment is thus shown to be stronger than Truth, itself.

Note that such a swearing of fidelity ALWAYS comes with a concomitant bold and continuing assertion that all other claims are invalid, that the ONLY possible, the only permissible “truth” that can be discussed by anyone reputable is the gang mark, that is, the false-truth.

See for example the global warming hoax, aka man-made global warming, man-made climate change, the hysteria, fear and regulation of carbon.


58 posted on 12/28/2010 9:09:32 AM PST by bvw
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To: Michael van der Galien


“D.C. Tech Official Is Accused of Bribery(Birth Certificate Forgery)
A D.C. government official and a business executive were arrested yesterday on bribery
charges involving city technology contracts that included "ghost" workers and
kickbacks, federal authorities said. Until recently, the technology office was headed
by Vivek Kundra, who has taken a job as President Obama's chief information officer.
A White House official confirmed last night that Kundra has taken a leave of absence.
“Yusuf Acar, 40, who has worked in the technology office since 2004, was charged with
bribery, conspiracy, money laundering and conflict of interest.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas Hibarger told a federal judge that Acar is a flight risk because agents
seized $70,000 in cash in his house and because in recorded conversations, he boasted that he could easily flee to his native Turkey.
Acar also told the informant that he could use
computers to create fake D.C. birth certificates
, Hibarger said. “


"Security Breach May Lead To Obama Natural Born Status
A series of 2008 security breaches at the US State Department may indicate that someone knows Barack Obama’s true status as a natural born citizen - and is waiting for the right time to reveal it. The breaches, which occurred on January 9, February 21 and March 14 of 2008, were done by two “low level” contractors and another in a mid-level position with no management role.
... An investigation of the incidents revealed that all three major presidential candidates - Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John McCain - had their passport files compromised.
... News of the security breaches prompted a statement from then-Senator Joseph Biden, who had not yet been chosen as Obama’s running mate. Biden, who was chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, had oversight of the Foreign Service and the passport office.

“I am deeply troubled that State Department contract employees sought access to Sen. Barack Obama’s passport files,” the statement from Biden read. “Firing or disciplining those responsible is an important first step. But we need to understand why these employees had access to this information in the first place, why they sought the information, and why it took over two months for this matter to come to light. I urge the Secretary of State to promptly refer this matter to the State Department Inspector General for investigation.”
... On April 5, 2008, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Passport Services Ann Barrett resigned from her post after a credit card scheme using US passport date was uncovered by the security probe. State Department Spokesman Tom Casey told The Washington Times that 24-year-old Lieutenant Quarles Harris Jr. told federal authorities he obtained “passport information from a co-conspirator who works for the U.S. Department of State.”

From The Washington Times report:
The investigation began after Metropolitan Police on March 25 pulled over Mr. Harris in Southeast on suspicion that the windows of his vehicle were tinted too darkly.
After searching Mr. Harris and his vehicle, police found marijuana and 21 credit cards that were not issued in his name or the name of a female passenger with him. Police also found eight printouts of State Department passport applications, and four of the names on the applications matched four of the credit cards.
Upon questioning by agents from the U.S. Secret Service, U.S. Postal Service and State Department, Mr. Harris “admitted he obtained the passport information” from a State Department employee, court documents say.

Mr. Harris also said the fraud ring submitted credit-card applications using the names and “identifying information” of the persons listed on the passport applications, and that a postal service employee then would intercept the cards before they were delivered to the appropriate residences.
Then, on April 17, 2008, Lt. Harris was found fatally shot dead slumped over the steering wheel of his car in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast DC."


Key Witness in Presidential Passport Tampering Case Murdered in 2008, No Arrests
On April 8, 2008, Obama confessed to having taken a trip to Pakistan in 1981. Here is what Obama said - Jake Tapper was there:
"So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa --knowing the leaders is not important -- what I know is the people...I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college -- I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."
... Much speculation has been made about what national passport Obama used when he traveled to Pakistan in 1981.
So Obama confessed to this trip two weeks after his passport was tampered with.


.... A key witness in a federal probe into passport information stolen from the State Department was fatally shot in front of a District church, the Metropolitan Police Department said yesterday. Lt. Quarles Harris Jr., 24, who had been cooperating with a federal investigators, was found late Thursday night slumped dead inside a car, in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast, said Cmdr. Michael Anzallo, head of the department's Criminal Investigations Division.
Cmdr. Anzallo said a police officer was patrolling the neighborhood when gunshots were heard, then Lt. Harris was found dead inside the vehicle, which investigators would describe only as a blue car."


"Mysterious Dead Person Connected To 2008 Elections
The Washington Times reported April 5 that contractors for the State Department had improperly accessed passport information
for presidential candidates Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain, which resulted in a series of firings that reached into the agency's top ranks."



59 posted on 12/28/2010 9:11:05 AM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

That sign is in the heart of PA.

At night its awesome. When driving in the dark for a while, and then you come upon it in bright bold lights. Very effective. An eye opener.


60 posted on 12/28/2010 9:36:22 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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