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Collins, Lieberman prove formidable team (RINO ALERT)
The Washington Times ^ | 2010-12-21 | Seth McLaughlin

Posted on 12/25/2010 10:54:23 AM PST by rabscuttle385

The repeal of the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy owes much to Sens. Susan Collins and Joseph I. Lieberman, who kept the issue alive when it appeared dead in the kind of partnership that is likely to become a model for getting things done in next year's divided Congress.

Mr. Lieberman, a Democrat-turned-independent from Connecticut, and Miss Collins, a Republican from Maine, plan to join President Obama at the White House on Wednesday when he signs the bill into law. The signing ceremony caps off a late-season effort that saw the military's ban on openly gay men and women serving in the ranks sink on two attempts as part of the annual defense policy bill, before finally passing as a stand-alone bill in the dying days of the lame-duck session.

Saturday's 65-31 repeal vote came after the two senators, in the span of 10 days, convinced lawmakers that now was the time to scrap the 17-year-old policy and persuaded Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat, to carve out floor time for one more try before the clock ran out.

"It wouldn't have happened without them," said Fred Sainz, a vice president at the Human Rights Campaign, a gay-rights group. "They had the courage and tenacity to introduce a stand-alone bill and then expertly managed it to conclusion. They deserve the credit."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Connecticut; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; dadt; homosexualagenda; lieberman; mclamesrevenge; mclameswomen; obama; rino; rinoparty; rinos4obama; susancollins

1 posted on 12/25/2010 10:54:27 AM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

Puke alert!!!


2 posted on 12/25/2010 10:56:30 AM PST by Parmy
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To: rabscuttle385

I hope the people in the districts they come from remember when they come up for re-election. Time and time again the majority of this country does not want this gay agenda. Time and time again they force it upon us.


3 posted on 12/25/2010 10:59:12 AM PST by ColdOne (Merry Christmas and God Bless You and Yours)
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To: rabscuttle385

This is one of those media puff pieces targetting other legislators with the goal of making them lose THEIR spines too.

“Hey... If I betray my base, reaching across the isle, they’ll be writing articles like that about me!”


4 posted on 12/25/2010 11:06:34 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: rabscuttle385

I hope the folks in Maine find somebody to challenge her in the primary.


5 posted on 12/25/2010 11:13:08 AM PST by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Et tu, Washington Times?


6 posted on 12/25/2010 11:13:42 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I wonder what happened to all the freepers who gloated about sending Al Gore’s running mate money for his U.S. Senate re-election?


7 posted on 12/25/2010 11:14:18 AM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: rabscuttle385

WHY?? What did these worthless people hope to gain by destroying the Military?


8 posted on 12/25/2010 11:15:24 AM PST by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: ColdOne

“Time and time again they force it upon us.”

There should be some means to reverse legislation that is clearly opposed by the majority of the voters.

Perhaps a vote of the people on such legislation to be taken within 30 days of the passage of the signature of the president and should it show a majority oppose, the legislation is repealed!

Doing this would tend to keep politicians from proposing it in the first place.


9 posted on 12/25/2010 11:24:58 AM PST by chooseascreennamepat
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To: rabscuttle385
I just don't understand why this issue was so important to these people. Is it a matter of pursuing the European model? Are they so blind they cannot see the damage this will cause to the effectiveness of combat forces? Are they so blind they cannot see this is a stepping stone for the militant homosexual movement? What am I missing??
10 posted on 12/25/2010 11:27:21 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Cheetahcat

<<<<<<<<”It wouldn’t have happened without them,” said Fred Sainz, a vice president at the Human Rights Campaign, a gay-rights group.>>>>>>

“Gay-rights group.” It sounds so innocent, doesn’t it?

But what these radical groups really want to do is take rights away from Christians. They want to take away our rights to hire people of our choosing, do business with people of our choice, educate our kids as we wish, worship as we choose, participate in Boys Scouts as we choose. The radical homosexual agenda affects just about every square inch of our lives.

How about a “Christian rights” group?


11 posted on 12/25/2010 11:31:31 AM PST by heye2monn
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To: rabscuttle385

Rand Paul is gonna Beat the H&ll outta BOTH of them!


12 posted on 12/25/2010 11:32:51 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: rabscuttle385

Their bad influence will be somewhat diminished come January, and non existent after two more years. Meanwhile, Joe will continue being a Democrap, and Susan will continue rolling over to please every leftnut that comes along.


13 posted on 12/25/2010 11:53:49 AM PST by pallis
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To: rabscuttle385
Lisa Moosecowski is now an independant..
She should NOT be on any important commttees..
14 posted on 12/25/2010 12:06:43 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: rabscuttle385

There is nothing formidable about these two. They are both cowards, traitors and weak to their own country and people.


15 posted on 12/25/2010 12:13:17 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: rabscuttle385

The only difference between those 2 feckless Lieberals is old Joe gets a Y chromosome. If the Pilgrims could be reincarnated they would cringe at who/what represents New England in DC.


16 posted on 12/25/2010 12:21:48 PM PST by tflabo
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To: rabscuttle385
The worst thing that could happen is for Joe Lieberman to be elected as a Republican. If it doesn't benefit Israel, Joe is a staunch liberal.

Hopefully, we can elect enough conservatives to the Senate in 2012 that RINOs won't matter any more and that Snowe and Lugar will be replaced, even if it is by Democrats.

17 posted on 12/25/2010 12:23:36 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: heye2monn
“How about a “Christian rights” group?”

Christians don't count any more. Iraqi Catholics canceling Christmas celebrations because they fear for their lives isn't nearly as important as some Muslim or gay who perceives he/she has been slighted.

18 posted on 12/25/2010 12:28:12 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: heye2monn

“How about a “Christian rights” group?”

Exactly this Sickness is total BS and needs stopped.


19 posted on 12/25/2010 12:40:16 PM PST by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: elpadre

You’re not missing anything. Except some insight into the fagot mentality:

Is it a matter of pursuing the European model? YES!

Are they so blind they cannot see the damage this will cause to the effectiveness of combat forces? NO!

Are they so blind they cannot see this is a stepping stone for the militant homosexual movement? NO

The queers have wanted for years to disrupt the military.

The “homosexual movement” is already militant.

This will not have a good ending.


20 posted on 12/25/2010 12:43:19 PM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: bwc2221

Iraq is a horrible situation for Catholics.

But in the West, the Christian community is not being conquered by an outside group. The Christian community is committing suicide.


21 posted on 12/25/2010 1:32:06 PM PST by heye2monn
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To: heye2monn

Coming soon to a church near you, ministers who will face penalties or even jail for preaching the Truth about the sinful nature of homosexuality.


22 posted on 12/25/2010 1:34:44 PM PST by allblues
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To: rabscuttle385

Not even signed into law yet and this repeal ha already begun to weaken our Military.
Many senior offiers are opemnly considering leaving. Some officer are refusing to attend re-education classes and some are refuse to order their units to attend re-education classes.
How long before the first soldier recieves a dishonorable discharge for refusing to shower with an open homosexual?
How long before the first incompetent homosexual soldier is denied a promotion and claims discrimination due to being a homosexual?
These people have begun gthe destruction of the US Military.


23 posted on 12/25/2010 1:43:34 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: rabscuttle385

,” said Fred Sainz, a vice president at the Human Rights Campaign, a gay-rights group.

Being a pervert is NOT a human right...


24 posted on 12/25/2010 1:46:34 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: elpadre

“I just don’t understand why this issue was so important to these people. Is it a matter of pursuing the European model?”

I think you got it in the second sentence. The so-called “elitists” want to establish an American aristocracy, where they can sit on their fat butts, produce nothing and rob the treasury. The senate is the perfect place for that. On the other hand, fear the guillotine, you traitorous bustards.


25 posted on 12/25/2010 3:42:28 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: ColdOne

There are too many idiots in Maine for sanity to rein.


26 posted on 12/25/2010 4:06:08 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: rabscuttle385

These sanctimonious, politically correct a$$holes will never have to suffer the consequences of this horrendous decision!

Just as taxpayers suffer when “government” makes REALLY BAD economic decisions, it is the troops at the point of the spear who will suffer the disastrous consequences of this REALLY, REALLY BAD social engineering experiment.

And, ultimately, when our military is gutted by this PC crowd, the United States of America will pay the price by having a much less capable and effective military.

I served for 28 1/2 years in the Navy and Naval Reserve, and I can tell you, flat out — take it to the bank! that having homosexuals serving openly in the military service will not work!


27 posted on 12/25/2010 7:38:26 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: rabscuttle385

No matter what the “elite” of the Republican party say, if it was my only other alternative, I would rather have a Democrat in the seat rather than Collins.


28 posted on 12/25/2010 8:35:48 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: elpadre

What am I missing??

This book will clarify all of the why’s about Obama/Dims.

http://www.amazon.com/Roots-Obamas-Rage-Dinesh-DSouza/dp/1596986255/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_3


29 posted on 12/25/2010 9:59:09 PM PST by matthew fuller (My picks: Bachman, Barbour, BOLTON, Liz Cheney, Daniels, DeMint, Inhofe, Palin, Pawlenty and Pence.)
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To: allblues

Yes — and it already happened in Sweden. A conviction of a pro-traditional marriage pastor went all the way to the highest court before it was overturned.

Unfortunately, very few pastors and ministers in America dare mention the evils of homosexuality. They spend too much time on fluffy talk about how God loves us. Well, yes, that’s very nice of God. But what obligations do WE have to God?

Too much fluffy talk in church and people will drift off to worship God on the golf course or shopping mall. The suicide of Christianity.


30 posted on 12/26/2010 6:26:19 AM PST by heye2monn
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To: All
Lieberman has spent years cultivating a moderate image, but his constituents know him as a political chameleon. He's reliable on national defense and foreign policy, but on domestic issues, he's on the side his polling or ambition places him: He was for school vouchers and an avowed enemy of Hollywood sleaze as a senator from flinty Connecticut, but as Al Gore's running mate in 2000, he opposed school choice and went to Hollywood, hat in hand, peddling promises.

KEEP THIS LYNG PRO-ABORT FANATIC OUT OF THE REPUB PARTY Lieberman cannot be trusted. During Clinton’s impeachment, this so-called "conscience of the Senate" went on and on condemning Clinton's behavior, but when the crucial vote came, he stood by Clinton. Lieberman is always plotting to get something for himself. He sucked up to McCain at the same time he wrote a huge check to Dems to keep his Dem bona fides.

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HERE'S HOW LIBERMAN LIED HIMSELF INTO OFFICE Lieberman is a staunch supporter of abortion rights, and even voted against banning partial-birth abortion six times in a row.

But pro-life leaders in Connecticut remember another Joe Lieberman. Lieberman made pro-life pledges about 20 years ago, when he was first a candidate for the US Senate. Lieberman sought pro-life votes in the final stretch of his 1988 Democratic bid to oust 18-year Sen. Lowell Weicker, a pro-abort Republican.

"Joe was very liberal, like Weicker, but we had a poll on abortion that showed which way the wind was blowing," says Daniel Cosgrove, then the Democratic town chairman in Branford, Mr. Lieberman's hometown. The poll showed anti-abortion sentiment outweighed pro-choice views in urban areas throughout Connecticut. "In the Waterbury area, it was more than any, 12,000 [more] against abortion," Mr. Cosgrove says.

Lieberman "expressed himself as coming from a tradition in support of life, not in favor of abortion on demand." "Lieberman expressed himself against abortion, all suicide, and euthanasia. His position on that definitely was well received by the Catholic hierarchy.

State Sen. Regina Smith, who conducted the pro-life poll for the archdiocese, arranged for Lieberman, then the state AG, to meet with Catholic prelates before the election to lay out his support for Catholic pro-life positions.

The strategy worked. Lieberman convinced the archbishop he favored pro-life positions and would vote differently than Mr. Weicker, thus winning Catholic support that pushed him to a narrow 10,000-vote victory — the only Democratic Senate upset of that year. Lieberman's winning margin was less than 1 percent of 1.4 million votes.

Written records of a meeting between Lieberman and top officials of the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC) two months after the 1988 election quote Mr. Lieberman as saying he "thinks there are too many abortions," and promising he would not "apply a litmus test" against pro-life judicial nominees.

Liar Lieberman today, of course, denies any of this ever happened.

An Orthodox Jew, Lieberman defends his pro-abortion, pro-infanticide record, saying Jewish law is deeply divided and Orthodox Jewry construes abortion as "a personal matter."

31 posted on 12/26/2010 10:54:27 AM PST by Liz (There's a new definition of bipartisanship in Washington -- it's called former member.)
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