Posted on 12/24/2010 2:26:38 PM PST by neverdem
I am of the mindset that it ain't over till the fat lady sings. The very reason that DADT was implemented as a loophole to skirt around the UCMJ still remains to be changed. A repeal of the superficial DADT remains a victory in name only without any substance unless and until the UCMJ is changed to reflect the homosexual sex land of milk and honey delusional dreams of the leftists.
As I am sure you are aware, the UCMJ is law governing the military -this in a nation of law. We are not in a dictatorship where emperor 0zero can change the law as he sees fit. As well any substantive changes tp the UCMJ require several reviews internal and withing congress by several legal and political committees that will have to review not only the changes but as well their potential impact good or bad upon the mission...
NO -far from a done deal. I would suggest you review just how the UCMJ must be changed per law governing the change process. I only reviewed is in a cursory manner myself; however, knowing how the government and military work in addition to what I would term expected passive resistance I do not see anything happening quickly here -I think years...
Being the optimist --I see this thing getting turned around and eventually kicked to the curb with all the leftists that pushed as well...
There is a reason the homosexuals remain closeted in the military today -after such a "great and monumental victory" for homosexual sex --the same reason they will remain closeted tomorrow...
One of the newsweeklies ran an article back in 1993 or so, about the three political trajectories in US politics. One is the self-made man (examples at that time were Pat Buchanan and Jesse Jackson -- remember his speech at the '88 Democratic convention? -- and now we would add Sarah Palin and possibly Huckabee, if it weren't for his Stevens Machine support in Arkansas). Another was the party man: example, Bob Dole. The third was the "mandarin" who never had a private-sector job, went to college in poli sci at someplace like Georgetown or one of the Ivy privilege academies, and generally lives a life of power and privilege which he treats as his natural due.
Lamar Alexander was their example of a nominally Republican "mandarin" (Noam Chomsky named this group), and they compared his then-current c.v. with Slick's, and the resemblance was amazing.
Now Lamar Alexander's striping -- his character -- is beginning to show. He still wants to be President, btw -- it's axiomatic and mandatory for all mandarins; they all believe they're the best man in the room, no matter what room.
I am intimately familiar with the UCMJ, if for no other reason than as a young Marine I had a few “Office Hours” before NJP became a career killer.
There are always consequences.
You dance with the devil...
This country has been changed ‘fundamentally’ as promised. i don’t even recognize it these two short years.
In your dreams....
There is a whole army of obamicons working 24/7 cranking out thousands of pages a week on all the 0bambi executive orders/proposals for legislation etc...
That's where the 2000 page 0bambicare and all the other bills came from.
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“The campaign” vs. the Tea Party.
And, not to put too fine a point on it, from Senate Republicans whose worldview tends strongly to resemble Krauthammer's own.
It's funny, btw, how the homosexuals' win on DADT is a "cultural shift" that is "permanent". Let's see how "permanent" it is, when the social conservatives come to town in 2012, after being discouraged from picking up the cudgels in their own behalf for years and years by guys like these RiNO's and their press pleader/mentor/drinking buddies. Somehow I don't think Charlie Kraut's looking forward to that.
Hmm, my cousin's son is an E-5 ST(G), and that's correct, he made E-4 before he got his ship. He went through his "A" and "O" schools down in San Diego ...... seemed like he was down there "forever" ...... he didn't get the "Green Door" course at Fleet Sonar School in Key West, where I went in 1970, but he's riding a ship right now on a six-year hitch. And, I might add, looking at the economy with a fishy eye, as he starts to look ahead a bit to getting out in about two years.
If the RiNO's quit throwing Obama political life preservers like this, I can see a Republican President and Congress in 2012 simply changing the law back to what it was in 1992, and mass-outprocessing the dissenters administratively -- who meanwhile have been gradually becoming bolder and bolder in confronting straight shipmates and barracks-mates, and so outing themselves.
The outprocessing should include people like Mullen who helped enable these people. General officers should be subjected to a quiet witch-hunt of their own for closet cases. They're the real enablers, IMHO, mentoring junior gays and harassing and oppressing straight officers and men on the movement's behalf.
Then we start on the great civil-service departments.
We can't have cabals in the Government. That kind of stuff is right out of Byzantine and imperial Chinese history (the "Nika" Faction, the Greens and Blues, the Yellow Turbans, the Red Eyebrows, the Hesychasmists).
I loathe RINOS/elistist Rs/leftist leaning Rs/weak sister Rs/ etc much, much more than I loathe out and proud Dems.
“You think I should be zotted?”
I cannot speak for others, but you sure as heck don’t deserve to be zotted. Being zotted is a SERIOUS punishment - and yes, it would be deserved if you supported DADT. But I read your post - you basically said that DADT will not be that big of a deal - that is a valid possibility and most of us would like that to be the case. It is really up to the military - if they handle it well, maybe we won’t have soldiers in drag and gay orgies - perhaps we’ll simply have people that are gay and behave like professional soldiers - or get court marshaled if they do not. Who knows - I certainly cannot stand getting rid of DADT and if it was up to me, I’d go back to the pre-DADT policy...and if things do not work out ok, we might just go back to an earlier day. We shall see.
Why "quiet"? I like the drumming them out as in Geo. Washington's day. But then, I'm mean and crude.
The President might have to use her discretionary power to dismiss them outright, rather than have long admin processes engage and fatigue the services with appeals, lawsuits, and so on.
President says you're gone, you're gone. "Convenience of the Government." Nobody's ever changed that rule.
“The repeal was merely repayment to a small constituency.”
Yes, it was a key goal for the gay lobby, who will now be unsatisfied and will ask for their next favored gimme.
“The One’s most important social-policy objective was the DREAM Act,”
Yes, in terms of power dynamics, this was more consequential.
Charles is hittingthe sauce here.
Obama merely salvaged what he could from the long liberal agenda of his. The bad news - he got some items.
The GOOD news ... THIS IS IT. THIS IS THE END OF THE LIBERAL EXPERIMENT FOR OUR ERA. Short, ugly, dangerous, and expensive. But OVER.
No. The military is being subjected to extreme "command influence" from Obozo, including the bogus push-polling "questionnaires" that were put out and then cited frequently and fraudulently in the runup to Obozo's coup. This is abuse of the people who are between us and a horde of mass-murderers. This is intolerable -- but the gays will try to limp-leg us and hope things die down now that they have their little "win." BS. It's backlash time.
Defund the process until Sarah can get here. She will straighten these guys out shake-shake.
Obama CANNOT use an excutive order to change the UCMJ. Only Congress can change the law. While the military is controlled by civilians, there are guidelines to prevent on brach of the governemnt from takiing control of the military, i.e. the President is the CinC, but COngress controls the defense budget.
And now, it's Christmas Eve, and let us think rather in terms of all our blessings, as our brave, far-away, and doubtless cold and uncomfortable young men stand watch and watch for the enemies that would harm us if they could.
We are in their country, so that they will never come to our country to wage their war, and our uniformed services are accomplishing very honorably the mission Theodore Roosevelt gave them over 100 years ago, that they so discharge our national policy, that a great war will never again be fought on American soil.
Benedicite, to our soldiers, sailors and airmen. And thank you many times over for your service.
What a joke. I hope the Democraps enjoy their parting shots, because come January, the real leadership in this country is going to take power.
Don't buy into this propaganda which they are systematically selling; it's clear that this will be the liberal mantra for the foreseeable future.
It'll be even more amusing when the reality of this utterly abominable Presidency once again sinks back in as the 2012 election cycle approaches.
Batten down the hatches, folks, because there's a big storm brewing in the next two years; the socialists will not yield power easily or happily... expect more scorched-earth politics from the Democratic Party as they continue to fade as a national influence.
Unfortunately I agree with you...this crap in the military has to end NOW.
A quote from Dietrich Bonhoeffer who was executed by the Nazi’s for opposing them:
“Silence in the face of evil is itself evil. God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”
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