Holbrooke no hero to general

The Ottawa Sun ^ | December 17, 2010 | Michael Harris

[NormsRevenge]

He’s in the league of Strobe Talbott.. now answerable to his maker

[Bokababe]

[Bokababe]

What else does the General know that we should know about Bosnia, Kosovo, etc.?

2008 (Right after Kosovo Declared Independence):

General Lewis Mackenzie: We Bombed The Wrong Side - Kosovo's Independence Immoral

[IMR 4350]

That's entirely possible.

[montyspython]

Let Assholebrooke rot, he did enough damage while he was alive. Piss be unto him.

[bayouranger]

Wonderful!

Now, when do we start bombing the He!! out of the KLA?

[Bokababe]

Wonderful! Now, when do we start bombing the He!! out of the KLA?

Well if we use their roadmap for stealing Kosovo that the KLA did, then:

1. As soon as we develop a lucrative sex/drug/organ trading Mafia that can fund the project,

2. As soon as we can hire a PR firm with connections to the highest levels of government and the media,

3. And as soon as we can find the equivalent of an anti-American former Congressman like Joseph Dio Guardi who'll stuff the campaign coffers on both sides of the aisle and will show globalist corporate warlords how it will be in their best interest to take back Kosovo from the Albanian Mafia.

If we do it the way they did it, this may take a little while.

Or, we offer every Albanian civilian in Kosovo $50K to move to Albania and leave Kosovo forever.

The latter would be cheaper and cleaner in the long run, because we've probably spent that much in aid to them already with no signs that there will ever be a time that they will be self-supporting. The results of this strategy would be that the only Albanians left in Kosovo would be the KLA and their supporters, making them easy targets that the Serb army will be happy to take care of for free.

I think that this could be considered a US cost-cutting and clean-up project that most everyone could get behind.

[Former Proud Canadian]

I salute you too, sir.

[montyspython]

Reduce the deficit, kill the KLA

[Bokababe]

Philip J. Crowley
Assistant Secretary
Daily Press Briefing
Washington, DC
December 17, 2010

....QUESTION: Council of Europe accusations against – Council of Europe report today accused also prime minister for serious crimes, basically. In the report, the FBI is mentioned as one of the sources of the inquiry. So is there anything new about that? We heard something —

MR. CROWLEY: We addressed that a couple of days ago.

QUESTION: Yes.

MR. CROWLEY: We fully support that – any investigation by a legitimate authority into these charges.

QUESTION: Do you have any contacts with Kosovo government on the issue?

MR. CROWLEY: I’ll take that question, see if we’ve had – I’m not aware of any – I’ll tell you what, I’m not aware of any contacts we’ve had since that report has come out. If that is – if our – but I’ll take that question and see.

QUESTION: P.J., just on that subject, you said – when you did address it the other day – I think it was Wednesday – you said pretty much the same thing, that you fully support an investigation. But you also noted, pointed out that this has come up before and that the ICTY has declined to prosecute or declined to go any further. Is that – I took that to suggest that you didn’t think that there was anything new here or that you thought that there was any – there was evidence that —

MR. CROWLEY: Well, we did have a statement of fact that some of these issues had been investigated before, and – but to the extent that this report sheds new light on these issues, they should be followed through.

QUESTION: And do you have any concerns about what this might do to the U.S.-Kosovo relations, in particular —

MR. CROWLEY: I don’t think it’s going to change fundamentally U.S.-Kosovo relations.

QUESTION: Well, the U.S. –

MR. CROWLEY: I mean, they’re based on our mutual interest, not on specific personalities.

QUESTION: Well, right. But I mean, if – do you see any problem in dealing specifically with Mr. Thaci?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, at this point, since any individual anywhere in the world is innocent until proven otherwise, he is the current prime minister, and we will continue to work with that government.

QUESTION: Well, yeah, but you won’t deal with President Bashir; he’s not been convicted of anything. You don’t deal with Mugabe, pretty much, and he’s not been convicted of anything.

MR. CROWLEY: He – well, he – yeah.

QUESTION: You’re calling for Laurent Gbagbo to leave Ivory Coast.

MR. CROWLEY: For very different reasons, Matt.

QUESTION: Well, all of them have been accused of – okay – being accused of crimes. None of them have been convicted of anything. And yet – so why is Hashim Thaci given this luxury?

MR. CROWLEY: We’re not giving anybody a pass. As we’ve said, if there’s new information that is revealed in this report, it should be fully investigated.

QUESTION: Giving the pass on Hashim —

MR. CROWLEY: In fairness, we don’t want to neglect the back of the room.

QUESTION: Thank you. Do you have any comments on today’s Japanese prime minister visit to Okinawa?

MR. CROWLEY: I do not......

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2010/12/153124.htm

Sorry folks, this is such BS that it makes you want to beat your head against the wall. The very people that the US State Dept supported — and Hillary in specific supported — are accused of killing people in order to sell their organs. But no big deal, let’s not talk about it, it’s business as usual at the State Department.

[bayouranger]

1 -3 are out of the question but your point is clearly made.

Worth also considering is our nations reputation in Europe & throughout the world. Especially now as the State Dept leaks continues to embarrass, & damage the prestige of America as they once again point out the roles of HRC & the saudis(AQ-ME).

What role would you envision for KFOR to play, if any?

[Bokababe]

What role would you envision for KFOR to play, if any?

Escort the paid-off peaceful Albanians to the Border, -- and Come Home! Damned be those whoever sent them there!

Even though my Dad lived in the US virtually all his life & served in the US Army, as the eldest living son, he still controlled the family land in Montenegro. It's a beautiful spot and is an expensive resort area today. Years ago I begged him to leave me some of that land, and he refused. He told me that, because of its location, it's a land that has never known peace and never will. Every single generation of Serbs have had to send (and lose) their sons to war against outside conquerors -- be they Turks (Muslims), Austro-Hungarians, Germans, or sometimes all three at once -- the Balkans were the world's chessboard and always would be, and he never wanted his children or grandchildren to have to be lost to such wars -- that's why he came to the US, so that we and his future generations would know peace and freedom.

Well, I look at America's sons as my own, and because of that I've never wanted to see our boys shed one drop of blood -- their own or that of others -- in the Balkans, not as "defenders" or "conquerors". Pick a power -- the Ottoman Turks, Austro-Hungary, Nazi Germany -- every single one of them --the greatest powers of their day-- have met their Waterloo in the Balkans. Now NATO is there. Is it hard to imagine that they aren't next? Unfortunately, we are just one more in the list of outside powers who have moved in and will eventually be thrown out, but not before enormous amounts of money is spent and blood is shed, on all sides. And after such a sacrifice, how in God's Name will this benefit our country, the USA, in any way? It won't, it can't. We are on the wrong side of a conflict that was never our business to begin with. And after the organ/sex/drug trafficking revelations, just how much more evil are we willing to shame ourselves by defending?

I pray for our boys and our country, because until we remember who we really are and what we are really willing to stand for, we are doomed.

[AmericanVictory]

Assisant to Kissinger for the turntail and run from Vietnam and apologist for Kosovo terrorists. Somehow that tells it all.

[AmericanVictory]

Assisant to Kissinger for the turntail and run from Vietnam and apologist for Kosovo terrorists. Somehow that tells it all.

[bayouranger]

B, it’s no secret that I’ve always looked to your input for validation due to you 1st hand knowledge & your absolutely honesty whenever this topic comes up.

BUT, I must say now, No! We are not doomed.

To the contrary, they are in the midst of being dealt a blow of monumental proportions in the islamic world, IF this is done properly. What we have here is an opportunity that has never been imagined prior to all of these recent revelations, from both the FBI, the Swiss & wikileaks.

Please, let me explain. Islamic history claims ownership to territory that it no longer has in its’ possession, regardless of how much time has passed.

For instance, Turkey still claims much of Spain as its’ own & Erdogan recently stated that the intention of joining the EU was to gain access to those regions which the collapsed caliphate once had in its’ realm, Dar-el-salam, during the Ottoman time.

You, more than likely know this, and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if you do but I want to make myself clear. Please, do not take any offense if I sound like a lecturer, which I’m not but this is a critical moment for Western Civilization.

This moment can derail the islamic expansion into Europe for decades without firing a shot(Although I’d like a low yield detonation to occur in quite a few places); thereby, we may avoid a terrible war in the region by simply forcing the KLA out of Christian Serbia, & rightfully returning Kosovo to the Serbs, for Kosovo is theirs, historically.

Hugh Fitzgerald is someone who’s aware of what must be done to confront the islamic expansion & I’ve always read his work with the greatest regard based upon his no-holes-barred assessments, but I foresee another approach & it is now at hand.

I’ve always considered the Sudan a tripping point for islamic expansion, but in this article by H.F., from July/2010, he lays out all the cards for anyone to see:
Islam: What must be done( http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/67091/sec_id/67091).

In it, he clearly explains why the Sudan must be defended from another genocidal war by the koranimals funded from the ME.

When you have the time to review it, please, do so with this one request: Replace for now Sudan, with Kosovo but only in terms of its’ importance to the islamic worlds’ understanding of Dar-el-salaam.

Then, consider that with Kosovo potentially, and rightfully returning to the Serbs, as well as, Southern Sudan’s Independence coming up on the 9th of January, the islamic world will be in a state of disarray which it may never be able to recover from.

Everything they’ve put into their expansion in the last 30+ years is ruined. Across the board, this is a moment which will effect every koranimal all the way down to the tribe level. Shoes off, they’re doomed. Not us.

The State dept(Saudi infiltrated) & the Clintons did a monumental amount of damage to the US, and I would never deny any of it, in fact, I think they should all be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law but here is a gift that I feel was never foreseen by anyone within that corrupt group...Vindication.

As God as my witness, this is a gift & we must make the best of it by turning all the tables over onto them.

The other alternative is this:

Serbia will still get Kosovo back, as it should but the Russians will be at their side...more so than before. If any group of people deserve reparations, it’s the Serbian people.

[jttpwalsh]

I Agree ! :)

[Bokababe]

My apologies for not replying quickly, BayouRanger. This time of year is pretty hectic.

First of all, I truly have great respect for your opinion, BR. Whether we agree or disagree, that still holds true. In this case, we actually agree -- at least in part.

My "doomed" remark was not a blanket statement; it had a caveat: "...until we remember who we really are and what we are really willing to stand for, we are doomed." I fully agree that we have a historic opportunity, with the recent revelations and WikiLeaks, to turn things around. But will we use that opportunity in a positive way? I hope and pray that we do, and I wish that I had your confidence, but I am not sure that I do.

Yesterday, a local mall had to be shut down because of "overcrowding". Most people are not paying attention to what is going on, or they are simply apathetic about it all -- probably a combination of both. They don't know what to make of what they hear re these leaks (if they are listening), or are still waiting for someone to guide them what to think of it. There are those in power who are all too willing to effectively tell them what to think, and they will believe or at least passively accept being manipulated. And by the time they discover that they are getting their chain yanked, it may well be too late.

The Fitzgerald article that you linked was absolutely brilliant and completely on target. Islam is ultimately nothing more than Arab Supremacism-- no question, absolutely correct -- and we need to close our Borders to Islamic immigration -- yes. But will we? I don't see that happening anytime soon, nor do I see anyone out there protesting that we MUST do this. Further, Fitzgerald's comments on Iraq and Afghanistan were actually recently confirmed (in a round-about way) by Janet Napolitano: "The old view that 'if we fight the terrorists abroad, we won't have to fight them here' is just that - the old view," Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told police and firefighters recently." Yet, we are still so focused on tactically "taking out terrorists" over there, that we are ignoring the obvious here. Islam is spreading. And moreover, I have to wonder if that wasn't the plan to begin with -- allow enough Muslims into to the US that some of them will be terrorists (or spur homegrown Islamic terrorism among our US native population) so that the gov has an excuse to crack down and monitor all of us -- and we let them because we want to be "safe". Safe from who? Seems to me that the elite's regime is more worried about "protecting itself from us" than it is about "protecting us from Islamic terrorism".

To me, Kosovo is a symptom, not the entire disease. It's a symptom of the elite's unbridled hubris, of its ability & willingness to manipulate us with lies, of our willingness to accept that BS even when we know its BS. It's a symptom of our willingness to sell out others -- even fellow Christians-- to save ourselves, never noticing that this time it is us personally who is "telling Pilate to save Barabas and crucify Christ" when we hand fellow Christians over to Muslims to rule.

I am sorry if I sound depressed about all of this during this Holiday Season BR, but I am. I really hope and pray that I will be proven wrong -- that America will wake up in time to save what is most important to us -- our honor and freedom -- and I will make that my New Years wish!

Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to you and yours, BayouRanger!

PS I only saw a very brief mention of Sudan in that article, so I am a little confused as to the plan you were referring to.

[bayouranger]

Ho, ho, no worries!

I’m going to respond to your reply soon enough. As for now, I ran across this article:

Kosovo’s Organized Crime Burden
http://www.analyst-network.com/article.php?art_id=3687

Another reason to purge the KLA, UCK & the Albanian terrorists in Kosovo.

Merry Christmas!