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Italy: Court Upholds Convictions of Americans in Kidnapping Case (CIA Agents)
The New York Times ^ | December 15, 2010 | ELISABETTA POVOLEDO

Posted on 12/16/2010 6:19:25 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner

An appellate court in Milan upheld on Wednesday the conviction of 23 Americans charged with kidnapping an Egyptian cleric in 2003 and ordered even harsher sentences. All but one of the Americans are Central Intelligence Agency operatives.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
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Nice to see whose side the Italians are on in GWOT.
1 posted on 12/16/2010 6:19:31 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

If these really are clandestine service operatives, why haven’t we done anything to get them released (or just get them out)? Oh wait, I forgot who was in charge.


2 posted on 12/16/2010 6:22:04 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Italy....Communist Riot Of the Month Club


3 posted on 12/16/2010 6:22:04 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: mnehring

Actually the agents are out and back in the states. The Italians tried and convicted them in absentia, which means that they will not be able to do their jobs overseas again (without being under threat of arrest and extradition) until this ridiculous case is squashed once and for all.


4 posted on 12/16/2010 6:29:58 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Good news, thanks (yea, I probably should have read the whole article).


5 posted on 12/16/2010 6:31:25 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

They were never imprisoned at all.
The Italians simply tried them in absentia.

It will become a more commonplace problem if something isnt done about it - which I doubt will ever happen


6 posted on 12/16/2010 6:33:21 PM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: mnehring

I believe they don’t have to be released, as they haven’t even been extradited and are not incarcerated in the first place. This verdict was in absentia to best of my knowledge.


7 posted on 12/16/2010 6:37:23 PM PST by cydcharisse (`)
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To: cydcharisse

Sorry about repeating what last 2 or 3 posters said. You posted it while I was writing my reply.


8 posted on 12/16/2010 6:40:14 PM PST by cydcharisse (`)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

So What? they just scratch Italy off the travel agenda.


9 posted on 12/16/2010 6:42:29 PM PST by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: mnehring

I wouldn’t expect them to actually be in custody. The article indicates that they are not.

Just the usual posturing and attempts to be relevent by a dying nation


10 posted on 12/16/2010 6:43:05 PM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (Leftys who zone in on Palin miss the point. America's not about single figures. That's for NK/Cuba.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Bookmark


11 posted on 12/16/2010 6:44:34 PM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: Cheetahcat

No, Europe in general, not just Italy.


12 posted on 12/16/2010 6:45:34 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

“No, Europe in general, not just Italy.”

Oops forgot about that euro thing.


13 posted on 12/16/2010 6:49:55 PM PST by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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You can bet Italian intelligence agencies not only knew about, but assisted, in this operation. This is about a corrupt left wing judiciary. The judiciary in Spain is much the same. No bad consequences for the 23. Except that, when their wives start nagging about a trip to Europe, they have lifetime excuses to stay right here in the Land of the Free.
14 posted on 12/16/2010 7:18:25 PM PST by Godwin1
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Hey Luigi! You want those agents? Come and try to take them!


15 posted on 12/16/2010 7:18:34 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all of my FReeper FRiends!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

The correct response is for Congress to issue letters of marque and reprisal against any and all persons in any way substantively involved in these convictions, or in any attempt to enforce them.


16 posted on 12/16/2010 10:06:59 PM PST by sourcery (If true=false, then there would be no constraints on what is possible. Hence, the world exists.)
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To: sourcery

I like that idea...!


17 posted on 12/17/2010 3:56:31 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; Nachum; Cindy; Fedora

Update...

Just a few days ago the Portuguese detained one of our agents allegedly involved in this case:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/ex-cia-agent-detained-in-portugal-over-2009-kidnapping-conviction-in-italy-1444324821?mod=fox_australian


18 posted on 10/13/2015 1:15:11 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

Apparently the Italian court system is overrun with Red brigades sympathizers, etc...


19 posted on 10/13/2015 1:19:55 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

Thanks for the update.


20 posted on 10/13/2015 10:25:54 PM PDT by Fedora
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