[onyx]

Go to the airwaves on every TV news channel and shut the government down if that's what it takes, to stop this damn thing from passing.

Tell the American people what's going on. Expose every corrupt bastard in the Senate in favor of passing this monstrosity!

[onyx]

DeMint ping please!

[woofie]

Questions

If something passes in this congress can it be rescinded or amended in next congress?

Can something be attached that will prevent it from taking effect without the next congress?

Is there a procedural reason for Republicans to pass the agreed on extension of “tax cuts” now rather than promising a clean up or down vote on it in the next congress that would be retroactive?

[MNDude]

Thanks imhoffe!

[gleeaikin]

I heard McCain reading off a list of the projects that had been included for various states. Some of them even sounded reasonable. However, they should not be snuck into some other bill. There should be a specific bill called something like “Special Local Projects”. Since each House member has roughly the same number of constituents, then each member should be assigned the same amount of dollars. Then they can decide how much to allocate for the various projects their constituents ask for. We should analyze how many dollars for each of, lets say the past 4 years, has been used for “pork” add-ons to other bills, then average it, reduce it by 20%, and divide that figure by the number of House members.

Then that would be their allowance for “Special Local Projects.” This would be a tax reduction of 20% and a fair distribution to all members for the use of their constituents. There should be a pledge not to include “pork” in any other bills, with strong party discipline.

[screaminsunshine]

Oh No! Not a government shutdown. Please don’t throw mw in that Briarpatch.

[sushiman]

Demint / Bachmann 2012 .

[Conservative Vermont Vet]

I have an interesting question some of our more enlightened Freepers who might be more informed as to Senatorial Rules may be able to answer is this:

"Dingy" Harry is threatening to keep the Senate in session up to January 4th if necessary, right?

What would happen (and I KNOW the ever condescending, conciliatory, wuss, McConnell would never even consider same) if he suddenly grew a pair and ordered all Republicans to simply refuse to stay after, say, after the 18th, or come back no matter what Reid "orders?"

After all, Reid is not a Dictator and the Senate is a deliberative body and the Senators are responsible and answer to their constituents, so what could he do? Fire them?

Then if the Demo-Rats go thru with passage of any legislation, I believe they would have doomed their party forever, so what's the downside?

[Puddleglum]

time to run out the clock and let the new Congress take over. Reid is acting like a kamikaze

[upsdriver]

Just watched Fox and Friends play a clip of Sen McCain speaking from the floor in the senate. Say what you want about McCain but he was dead on in this case. He blasted the bill for ridiculous spending and asked if anyone paid attention to the last election. He was livid. It was nice to see.

[MichaelP]

Go Jim! If the Lou Dobbs thread is true, we have to act to stop this travesty. McConnell had better be sure.... If he sold out then he is out!

Mike

[onyx]

So here’s the list of Senators and the number of earmarks I found for each in this Omnibus - so find your Senator and see what they did in this bill.

Cochran (R-MS) 230
Wicker (R-MS) 199
Murray (D-WA) 172
Harkin (D-IA) 152
Reid (D-NV) 129
Menendez (D-NJ) 123
Feinstein (D-CA) 121
Lautenberg (D-NJ) 120
Lincoln (D-AR) 114
Inouye (D-HI) 113
Schumer (D-NY) 106
Johnson (D-SD) 105
Landrieu (D-LA) 104
Specter (D-PA) 103
Pryor (D-AR) 96
Levin (D-MI) 93
Stabenow (D-MI) 91
Boxer (D-CA) 90
Brown (D-OH) 87
Grassley (R-IA) 86
Bingaman (D-NM) 86
Durbin (D-IL) 86
Akaka (D-HI) 83
Wyden (D-OR) 83
Cardin (D-MD) 79
Merkley (D-OR) 79
Gillibrand (D-NY) 79
Bond (R-MO) 78
Bennett (R-UT) 76
Casey (D-PA) 76
Udall (D-NM) 73
Reed (D-RI) 70
Kerry (D-MA) 69
Cantwell (D-WA) 69
Hagan (D-NC) 69
Voinovich (R-OH) 68
Klobuchar (D-MN) 68
Rockefeller (D-WV) 67
Dodd (D-CT) 66
Mikulski (D-MD) 65
Tester (D-MT) 65
Lieberman (ID-CT) 64
Hutchison (R-TX) 63
Burr (R-NC) 63
Baucus (D-MT) 62
Dorgan (D-ND) 60
Warner (D-VA) 60
Webb (D-VA) 58
Franken (D-MN) 58
Collins (R-ME) 57
Leahy (D-VT) 56
Murkowski (R-AK) 55
Whitehouse (D-RI) 55
Kohl (D-WI) 54
Conrad (D-ND) 52
Vitter (R-LA) 48
Cornyn (R-TX) 45
Snowe (R-ME) 44
Nelson (D-FL) 43
Chambliss (R-GA) 42
Crapo (R-ID) 41
Risch (R-ID) 41
Bennet (D-CO) 40
Brownback (R-KS) 39
Carper (D-DE) 39
Begich (D-AK) 37
McConnell (R-KY) 35
Roberts (R-KS) 35
Sanders (I-VT) 33
Shelby (R-AL) 32
Inhofe (R-OK) 32
Shaheen (D-NH) 32
Alexander (R-TN) 30
Udall (D-CO) 30
Lugar (R-IN) 29
Graham (R-SC) 27
Thune (R-SD) 26
Isakson (R-GA) 24
Nelson (D-NE) 23
Sessions (R-AL) 21
Bunning (R-KY) 21
Ensign (R-NV) 20
Gregg (R-NH) 13
Barrasso (R-WY) 4
Enzi (R-WY) 3
Hatch (R-UT) 1
Bayh (D-IN) 1
Corker (R-TN) 1
Brown (R-MA) 1
McCain (R-AZ) 0
Feingold (D-WI) 0
Kyl (R-AZ) 0
DeMint (R-SC) 0
Coburn (R-OK) 0
McCaskill (D-MO) 0
Johanns (R-NE) 0
LeMieux (R-FL) 0
Manchin (D-WV) 0
Coons (D-DE) 0
Kirk (R-IL) 0

When you take a long look at those earmark numbers, you can see that more Democrats are up on the high end in terms of earmarks, with a lot more Republicans down here on the low end of the scale.

[snowrip]

At this point, shutting down the government would be akin to derailing a runaway freight train... a freight train that is headed for a school... and on fire.

Close the doors in Washington.

[Redleg Duke]

Reid is fighting the last war...the pre-TEA Party war. This is a major error on his part.

The RATS and RINOS cannot accept the fact that the TEA Party is a major game changer and the American People are now committed and engaged in the political fight. What worked before ObamaCare will no longer work today.

[alrea]

Democrats confiscating more property.