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End of the line for ethanol? (bipartisan Senate group signs letter calling for end to subsidies)
Hotair ^ | 11/30/2010 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 11/30/2010 1:20:26 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: RobRoy

Yes but there should be a way to phase out the law with provisions or mandates that specify increased domestic oil production coming on line for each ethanol plant that closes. We don’t want to just increase percentage f foreign oil !


41 posted on 11/30/2010 3:35:54 PM PST by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: RobRoy

While alcohol has a lower energy content than gasoline, a higher percentage of the energy is extracted during the combustion process. In the end, you still get less energy out of ethanol, but not by as much as it would seem if you only compare energy contained, not energy released.


42 posted on 11/30/2010 3:39:08 PM PST by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: SeekAndFind

About time, now if they would end all farm subsidies, that would be great.


43 posted on 11/30/2010 3:40:26 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: Darth Reardon

I know that I get a two to three MPG drop when I switch from real gas to the 10% mixture. I keep track of my mileage and type of gas used at every fill up, and I tend to run my tank to almost empty before I fill up because I am lazy and like to spend as little time at the gas station as possible.

The car is a Scion xB and I consider my evidence to be empirical. It may vary by car, of course.


44 posted on 11/30/2010 3:43:27 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: aumrl

Naw. Just cut it loose. We’ll survive.


45 posted on 11/30/2010 3:44:16 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: sbark
10% less of a more expensive poorer quality fuel.

Supply isn't a prob,...yet.

JCX2 here we come waaaaahooooo!!!!

46 posted on 11/30/2010 3:44:23 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you, O you most proud, said the Lord God of hosts.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I think you hit the nail. They’ve seen the numbers.

Die Ethanol, Die
E-10 Sucks
Ethanol Fraud BTTT


47 posted on 11/30/2010 3:50:56 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: sbark
Econ 101....10% less supply proabably means a price increase of at least 54 cents a gal....

More Econ 101.... open up more areas to oil drilling and the price will come down.

48 posted on 11/30/2010 3:53:17 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: SeekAndFind
paging AlGore...
49 posted on 11/30/2010 4:15:43 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SeekAndFind

How will this affect people who plug their cars into the lampshade?


50 posted on 11/30/2010 4:54:40 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

How will this affect people who plug their cars into the lampshade?

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As lampshades contain no energy , either in a volatile liquid format or in electrical form those people are going nowhere anyway. No Change.


51 posted on 11/30/2010 6:33:11 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: Obadiah

The subsidy is included in the American Jobs Creation Act of 2004 and is called the Volumetric Ethanol Excise Tax Credit. The mandate was included in the Energy Policy Act of 2005. So no, the subsidy and the mandate are seperate. FYI The Renewable Fuels Reinvestment Act, RFRA, was introduced in 2010 by Congressman Earl Pomeroy (D-ND) and and John Shimkus (R-IL) and would extend the tax credits set to expire on 31 December 2010. I hope they get kicked out asap.


52 posted on 12/01/2010 9:47:44 AM PST by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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