Posted on 11/26/2010 3:12:48 PM PST by JohnBrowdie
“....how many people have died since the white man arrived here due to lung cancer thanks to the Indian-invented custom of smoking tobacco? Who are the real killers here? And I say this with all political correctness. I mean it’s politically correct to be totally opposed to smoking, totally opposed to tobacco, other than when you’re getting tax revenue from it, and I don’t. So you tell me. How many Americans have died thanks to an Indian invention versus how many Indians died because we got here? Now, you run the numbers on this. Where are our reparations? I’m just saying. ...” bttt
White Man v. Native Americans
November 24, 2010
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_112410/content/01125112.member.html
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RUSH: How did the Indians teach the Pilgrims how to shoot game when the Indians didn’t have guns? Don’t forget, it was white European settlers that brought guns and horses and syphilis and racism, environmental destruction. How did this happen? We brought guns. The Indians didn’t have ‘em. How did the Indians teach us to shoot game? That would be wild animals, for those of you in Rio Linda. Actually, you know this in Rio Linda. Never mind.
How many of you listeners, let me just ask you a question, how many of you are celebrating Native American or Indian Thanksgiving? Now, from Wikipedia, or “Wikipediat,” the National Day of Mourning: “The National Day of Mourning is an annual protest organized since 1970 by American Indians of New England on the fourth Thursday of November, the same day as Thanksgiving in the United States of America. It coincides with an unrelated but similar protest, Unthanksgiving Day, held on the West Coast.” So that’s also going on, and I just want to make sure that you knew about that. “The organizers consider the national holiday of Thanksgiving Day as a reminder of the perceived democide and continued suffering of the Native American peoples. Participants in the National Day of Mourning honor Native ancestors and the struggles of Native peoples to survive today. They want to educate Americans about history. The event was organized in a period of Native American activism and general cultural protests. The protest is organized by the United American Indians of New England (UAINE).”
Now, democide, as genocide, democide, let’s check the scoreboard. How many Native Americans were killed by the arrival of the white man through disease and war? All right, now, you’re not gonna like hearing this, folks, but we’re checking the scoreboard here. Supposedly there was a democide out there. The white man showed up, and the Indians, the Native Americans, started dropping out there. We killed ‘em. Horrible. You’ve seen the movies. All right, what’s the number? How many Native Americans, how many Indians were killed by the arrival of the white man through disease and war, and how many people have died since the white man arrived here due to lung cancer thanks to the Indian-invented custom of smoking tobacco? Who are the real killers here? And I say this with all political correctness. I mean it’s politically correct to be totally opposed to smoking, totally opposed to tobacco, other than when you’re getting tax revenue from it, and I don’t. So you tell me. How many Americans have died thanks to an Indian invention versus how many Indians died because we got here? Now, you run the numbers on this. Where are our reparations? I’m just saying. See, I told you to have the kids listen to this show while you’re driving around and not listen to some video.
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RUSH: There is so much distortion, so many lies, so many untruths taught to our innocent young skulls full of mush throughout American history about Thanksgiving and one of the things that has been taught is that the arrival of the white man, I don’t know if it was the Pilgrims or whoever came later, Christopher Columbus even prior to that, and what happened was that the Native Americans were basically slaughtered. They were wiped out. We came in here, we basically took what wasn’t ours and it was devastation out there.
But I ask if we could run the numbers on this. Does anybody know the total number of Native Americans killed as a result of the arrival of the white man? When we get that number we need to compare it to the number of tobacco deaths since the white man arrived in this country because it was the Native Americans who figured out what to do with tobacco. Smoke it, and in some cases chew it. And we’ve been told that tobacco smoking, cigarette smoking, all that, is deadly, lung cancer and so forth. How many millions of people die every year because of it? Add up the number of years, and who really killed who here in the New World? It’s just a question. I’m just saying.
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RUSH: Knoxville, Tennessee. This is Michael, great to have you here, sir. Hi.
CALLER: Thanks for taking my call, Rush. I just wanted to comment on the Native American versus white men casualty comparison that you had.
RUSH: Yeah.
CALLER: If you are to blame the Native Americans for the white man smoking cigarettes, first of all, the Native Americans never had a choice whether to stay here or to be killed or not, and second of all, the white man has always had a choice whether to —
RUSH: Now, wait, whoa, whoa —
CALLER: — smoke cigarettes or not. We have a choice to smoke the cigarette’s and don’t. Now, if we’re gonna blame Native Americans for white men smoking cigarettes, then we need to blame the white men for every gun crime that’s ever been committed because we invented the gun, so is it fair to compare, do you not see the hypocrisy?
RUSH: Well, look, I can’t disagree with you. I think whoever invented the wheel, look how many people have died because of that, the automobile. I think you’re getting somewhere here.
CALLER: It’s an individual choice. The choice is the problem. You can’t blame that on Native Americans.
RUSH: They invented the product. If they hadn’t — look, somebody had to figure out what to do with tobacco just like somebody had to figure out what to do with the coffee bean. And it was the Indians that did. We got here, we saw ‘em smoking it, and we said, “Wow, that looks good, smells good, we want to know how to do it.” Yet we started smoking and look what happened to us.
CALLER: They didn’t flood ‘em with chemicals either like the white man decided to do to the cigarettes nowadays, either. It was much more natural.
RUSH: Doesn’t matter. The chemicals just make the product burn without going out. The carcinogens are not amped up because of the chemicals in there.
CALLER: The chemicals keep the bugs off the plants. The chemicals are what keep the animals from eating —
RUSH: Yeah, but it’s also what keeps the tobacco burning in the cigarette so you don’t have to relight it. A cigar you have to constantly relight because they don’t put any chemicals in it.
CALLER: They’ve taken those chemicals out. If you notice cigarettes now, they burn out. They don’t stay lit anymore, Rush.
RUSH: I wouldn’t know about that but I’ve not heard anybody say that.
CALLER: Well, it’s the truth. I’m a smoker but I’m not going to blame Native Americans for me smoking cigarettes.
RUSH: Look, it’s a think piece out there. I mean we’re bombarded every day with how we committed genocide on these people. The white man is being blamed for every evil on this planet.
CALLER: Yeah, that’s right, but it’s about getting the point that you can’t blame whole groups for individual choices. Look at Barack Obama. I mean look how the Republicans are — (unintelligible) — all the Democrats because one guy can’t stand up to do what’s right and what he promised the nation he would do. It’s a sickness of the whole country, Rush.
RUSH: Wait a second. What is this about Obama can’t stand up? Run that by me again.
CALLER: Well, it’s the simple point that people in nature have this urge to blame an entire group for poor decisions for one person.
RUSH: Oh, so Obama’s not responsible for —
CALLER: No, he is responsible. But we don’t hold him accountable, we hold the Democratic Party accountable. It’s the same thing, Rush.
RUSH: I see. What would you say about the Indians contributing to gambling addiction via their casinos?
CALLER: I think that they have a right to gamble just like the Islamic people have a right to build a mosque, granted I don’t believe in that, believe they should be able to but they have the freedom to do so.
RUSH: I know they have the freedom to do it, but they’re opening the doors and who are their customers? Us.
CALLER: Not all of us. There are black people, they go into casinos —
RUSH: That’s my point. It’s not the Native Americans. They’re the ones who own the casinos, we gave ‘em the casinos.
CALLER: Well, we’re the ones that gave it to them, you just admitted it yourself, Rush. So how you gonna blame that on Native Americans when we’re the ones that gave it to them.
RUSH: I’m just saying these are —
CALLER: It makes no sense to me, the whole argument.
RUSH: I just like to make people think about things.
CALLER: Well, I hope they are thinking about it.
RUSH: It may make no sense to you because you have a bias and prejudice against the white guy. It’s obvious.
CALLER: What? Well, I’m half white, I got a lot of Indian in me but I don’t hold no prejudice against any race. I hold individuals responsible for their own actions.
RUSH: A lot of people don’t know when they’re prejudiced and biased and you may be one of them. Most people don’t think they are, but you can hear it in them when they speak.
CALLER: What about you, Rush, are you prejudiced and biased? You speak against everything Democrat —
RUSH: No, I’m not, because I am well thought out and it’s my job to be right.
CALLER: But you’re not always right, are you?
RUSH: Well, 99.7% of the time almost.
CALLER: Okay.
RUSH: Documented to be. William Shatner asked me, “How do you know?” I said, “Because I do. It’s my job to know.” Now, here. I have, from the Twentieth Century Atlas, the historical body count. We looked it up here. According to actual causes of death in the United States, 2000 Journal of the American Medical Association, 435,000 people died because of tobacco in 2000 alone. According to the Centers for Disease Control, tobacco use is responsible for one in five deaths annually, 443,000 deaths per year in the US. World Health Organization says that worldwide tobacco use causes more than five million deaths per year. Ward Churchill, the pretend Indian plagiarist said that 12 million Indians were killed by the white man. You compare 12 million once to five million per year for however many years and I think you can see what I’m talking about here.
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RUSH: Now, let’s just review here. According to Ward Churchill, the pretend Indian plagiarist, controversial professor — he’s a professor of ethnic studies, University of Colorado — he said the reduction of the North American Indian population from an estimated 12 million in 1500 to barely 237,000 in 1900 represents a “vast genocide ... the most sustained on record.” So even by Ward Churchill’s preposterous calculations, the number of deaths from tobacco dwarf those ‘cause it’s five million a year since the Pilgrims arrived. I mean we’re talking tens of millions here, tobacco deaths.
Now, most sane historians put the number of Indians in all tribal areas north of Mexico at the time of European arrival at a little over one million, not 15 million. Our previous caller, obviously a tobacco apologist — you heard him — suggested that we invented the gun, and that led to a lot of Indian deaths, too. It was the Chinese. We might have invented the gun, but we couldn’t do anything with it until the ChiComs invented gunpowder. Everybody knows this. And here’s something else. How many of you have been taught or how many of your kids have come home telling you that Columbus and his band of marauders brought syphilis with them and also infected the Native Americans with it? It’s just the other way around. Columbus and his boys caught syphilis here, and they took it back to the Old World with them. January 15, 2008 by Jia-Rui Chong: “Add Syphilis to Columbus’ Discoveries, Study Says — Columbus and his crew likely brought the bacterium out of the New World leading to its global spread, a genetic analysis finds, that conclusion hotly debated.” Of course it is, because it goes against conventional wisdom.
“The spread of syphilis across the globe was probably sparked by Christopher Columbus and his crew, who ferried the bacterium, or a version of it, from the New World to the Old World, according to a new genetic analysis published,” a couple of years ago. And this does not even include gonorrhea. This is just syphilis. I mean, we gave ‘em smallpox, yeah, small change compared to syphilis. When you start adding all this up I think we’re all owed a bunch of casino chips and a couple packs of cigarettes at no tax. (interruption) What do you mean, how did the Indians have syphilis? How did they have syphilis because they were pure, at one with the earth? I don’t know. Well, the earth has everything. The earth has syphilis; earth has cancer. Yeah. The earth is air, atmosphere and all of that.
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RUSH: Phillip in Tupelo, Mississippi, welcome to the EIB Network. Hello, sir.
CALLER: Happy Thanksgiving, Rush.
RUSH: Thank you, sir.
CALLER: I finally joined the ranks of those who have won life’s lottery.
RUSH: Well, welcome, thank you very much, sir.
CALLER: You posed a question earlier, what did people do without all the government agencies. I wanted to point out that during our era of Western expansion people did without government at all. There’s an article on the net called the, “The Not So Wild, Wild West” that describes the wagon trains, the gold rush, and the cattle companies and how they got along trading an orderly society to protect their property rights even though there was no government, you know, formal government.
RUSH: Yeah. That was my exact point. This is exactly what happened when the Pilgrims arrived. There wasn’t any fish and game; there wasn’t any FDA; there wasn’t any Natural Resources Defense Council; there were no environmentalist wackos; nobody had to get permission to go hunt; nobody had to get a permit to do anything, and it all worked out. Everybody survived, everybody lived, and we ended up with a great country out of it, and the Native Americans also got fed, along with everybody else. So it worked.
My strong guess is the results of this study are wrong. Life is short, so I don’t have time to review in detail every mistaken medical study. There are just too many!
There’s nothing to this study. Scientists “estimated” the death toll. It’s B.S.
The WHO banned DDT? Bastards!
More lies from the left!
“There’s nothing to this study. Scientists “estimated” the death toll. It’s B.S.”
Sorry to hear the Lancet is open to publishing establishment-sponsored nonsense.
Is there any science journal left that still warrants respect?
Certainly not Nature, Science, NEJM, or Scientific American.
Maybe just Popular Mechanics? LOL
Back in 1998 the same World Health Organization conducted a study of the effect of second-hand smoke exposure that found a slight beneficial effect. This study seems to have been spiked, but is referenced in this short article, which provides some evidence that this positive effect might be due to the tendency of second-hand smoke to remove "radon daughters" resulting from the decay of radon from the air before they can be absorbed by the lungs: http://www.techlib.com/science/secondhandsmoke.htm
It has also been speculated that a process toxicologists refer to as hormesis could also account for some prophylactic effect of second-hand smoke: http://www.nosmoke-novote.org/evidence-01.htm
I haven't smoked for 15 years, and obviously believe smoking is not good for the smoker. But smoking opponents do themselves no credit by spewing junk science like the results presented in the cited WHO study. I believe in the 600,000 annual deaths from second-hand smoke about as much as I believe in Michael Mann's hockey schtick.
´If all the world lit just once little cigarette....´
Whirled Peas....
Smokes Across America
I informed the panel that the study that began the crusade, published in 1993 by the Environmental Protection Agency, had, despite the Agency’s insistence, found no statistically significant link to lung cancer. If the EPA had used the normal standard for “statistical significance,” a measure of the probability that the outcome resulted from sheer chance, they would have found nothing. Since the football fell short, they used a laxer standard to move the goal posts back.
I told them the EPA also found a mere 17 percent increased risk, yet the National Cancer Institute has said that even a 100 percent increase is “considered small” and is “usually difficult to interpret. Such increases may be due to chance, statistical bias, or effect of confounding factors that are sometimes not evident.” (The exception is with very large studies, but the EPA’s was not.)
I noted that the other “authoritative” study linking passive smoke to lung cancer, commissioned by the World Health Organization, actually showed a statistically significant reduced risk for children of smokers and no increase for spouses and co-workers of smokers. For spouses and co-workers of smokers, it found no increased or decreased risk.
And I told them that the largest of the passive smoking studies (35,000 participants) and longest (39 years) found no “causal relationship between exposure to environmental tobacco smoke (passive smoking) and tobacco-related mortality.”
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Eco-fascism kills 3 million people a year, mostly women, children and babies in the Third World. From 1970 til today, American eco-fascists have murdered more people than Hitler and the Nazis.
I’m looking forward to hanging Carl Pope, the chief Nazi of the Sierra Club, for crimes against humanity.
I look forward to hanging every UN puke, starting with Al Gore.
Hell, I’ll stand at the bottom of the chute and pull his legs through and snap his neck.
Die! AL GORE.
You forgot to mention that the WHO study you referred to also found that second hand smoke is not only not deadly or even neutral but in fact HAS A PREVENTATIVE EFFECT ON THE LUNGS OF CHILREREN!
huh? wot? no internet record?
Lancet, like the IPCC has long proven itself as a corrupt and perverted organization.
When science embraces politics, specially the politics of social manipulation, it can be safely ignored.
When the UN WHO study (of the 1990s) is released in its entirety, and its conclusions "errors" refuted in detail with science, no further "second hand smoke" studies can be taken seriously.
Show me 1 death certificate that lists second hand smoke as the cause of death.
It’s amazing the number of people who believe this tripe.
They think, “WHO, a reputable organization [first mistake] it must be true.
and the same people that are pushing to ban cigarette smoking are pushing to legalize marijuana.......
go figure......
Sorry, but the gay blades have disease statistics beat, globally...with currently 33.4 million infected, of which 3.1 million/year dying...so, I’ll continue to inhale smoke down my throat while they get their disease from both ends, tyvm
IF you don’t like the smoke, then walk to somewhere else. Nobody is asking you to stand next to someone smoking...you do it on purpose so you can -itch about it...
If you don’t like the smell of our clothes because we smoke, don’t come around us....we are banned to outside now, so you don’t have to come outside with us!
This is still a free country (at least for a little while longer)and yes we can smoke when we want...where we want(outside of course)in our cars, in our homes...so you go inside and sit at your desk and -itch about something else for a change!
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