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Rove: Sarah Palin Needs To Show She Can "Unify" Republicans
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Posted on 11/26/2010 2:02:46 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: ChicagoConservative27

Take it from me Karl, don’t step out of the crosswalk.


51 posted on 11/26/2010 2:41:13 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I strongly suspect Mr. Rove is attempting to see if he can make Sarah dance to his tune. Whether it’s due to ego or something else remains to be seen, but it does appear that he is speaking that way.


52 posted on 11/26/2010 2:42:41 PM PST by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: Heart of Georgia

Because its the make-up of the electorate. Only 40% of the electorate is conservative. Democrats outnumber Republicans in many swing states like Pennsylvania and Florida. It’s the independents in those states that have the ability to swing the election to the GOP.


53 posted on 11/26/2010 2:45:30 PM PST by jerry557
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To: jerry557
Because polls show they already favorable with independents.

When you look at head to head polls vs Obama, Romney, Huckabee, and Gingrich are in a dead heat. Palin is like 8 points behind meaning she doesnt have independent support that the other guys already have.

Push polls, fake Independents plus a complicit Mouthpiece Media = Romney (because he brought the earliest version of Obamacare to Massachusetts and because he was once Pro "Choice" and can be flipped back to that position again)

54 posted on 11/26/2010 2:51:50 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
I think it's the highly over-rated Rove that has the problem.

He sticks with the D.C. elite Republicans vs. actual conservatives.

55 posted on 11/26/2010 2:55:08 PM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Mitt Romney: "I am not a GOP backstabber.
[(hiding, gutless, coward thinks) I just get others like Rove … to do it for me.]"



Romney Rises Again - Mark McKinnon
After laying low during Palinpalooza, the former governor is back atop the GOP pack for 2012.
He ... established health care reform in Massachusetts"


"Rove is pushing Romney so aggressively some folks are beginning to wonder what's going on," grumbled one veteran Republican strategist."


"Rove has made no secret of his support for Romney as McCain's VP. "


The McCain/Palin ticket was up ++4 to 10 pts. in some polls, days prior to the election.
So rather than helping the GOP, Romney
guided by his business partner, George Soros, had
Parker, Frum, and the rest of TeamROMNEY
attack Gov. Palin to throw Election2008 to the DNC.


Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."


"Frum was indeed a critic of Palin, calling her nomination a "huge mistake" during an October 13 (2008, weeks before the election) Early Show appearance."


David Frum: "Two of our most plausible candidates for president in 2012 are leading Mormons: Mitt Romney and Utah governor Jon Huntsman."


David Frum: "I have a lot of regard for Mitt Romney as a man and politician… I will support him without qualm."


Kathleen Parker: "[I]t is increasingly clear that Palin is a problem." "Parker ... says something publicly that many of us have thought privately
but lacked the courage to say out loud - Palin should step down:"


"Kathleen Parker: After Interviews, Palin Should Bow Out"


Kathleen Parker: "Romney would bring more than squeaky clean qualifications
and youthful good looks to the ticket.
Romney would seem a logical choice."


"Parker: Romney raised bar on freedoms"
Kathleen Parker: "If Kennedy's speech was an important landmark in American political history,
Romney's was surpassing. With heartfelt humility and poetic eloquence,
he tracked the nation's struggle with and for freedom."


Staggering bigotry of Kathleen Parker - UPDATED"


Who benefits most from Sanford meltdown? Californian (that's right) Mitt Romney


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



56 posted on 11/26/2010 2:59:00 PM PST by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: Texas Eagle
"She's got a problem with Independents..."

Not in this AZ Indy household....

57 posted on 11/26/2010 3:01:23 PM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob
Not in this AZ Indy household....

Glad to hear it.

58 posted on 11/26/2010 3:03:26 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
"She's got a problem with Independents and she has a problem with Democrats," Rove said

Yeah? Which of those groups are you in, Karl?

59 posted on 11/26/2010 3:04:10 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
"Oh Rove! Keep after that Sarah person, will you?"

"Yes,of course Mr. Romney!"


60 posted on 11/26/2010 3:07:20 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
he's got a problem with Independents and she has a problem with Democrats," Rove said about Palin's rating with these groups.

RINO man says that like it's a bad thing.

61 posted on 11/26/2010 3:08:45 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Damn Right! she’s not afraid to shake up the “Good Ole Boys” it doesn’t matter what side they are on! this is a good thing. I think Carl has a little problem with this? LOL!


62 posted on 11/26/2010 3:14:54 PM PST by watchdogmom
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To: miele man
I see Rove’s comments as disingenous. Palin ought to tell Rove to sit down and shut the hell up.

It's obvious that Rove is on tap to work for someone else in the next election. Since Romney seems to be the favorite of his political circle, I am guessing that is where his loyalties lie. If he was hired by Sarah Palin, he would be singing her praises and knocking Romney.

63 posted on 11/26/2010 3:17:22 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: watchdogmom
It was probably Karl Rove who was behind President Bush's idiotic statement about "abandoning free market principles to save the free market" in 2008.

I guess now he thinks Sarah Palin should abandon Conservative principles to save Conservatism.

Just go away, Rove.

64 posted on 11/26/2010 3:19:36 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Keith in Iowa
That's what I was thing too.

Rove and W's performances are not the type of the "unifying" that we ought to be looking for.

65 posted on 11/26/2010 3:23:31 PM PST by skimbell
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To: ChicagoConservative27

it is united with the exception of the RINOS and elitist bluies.


66 posted on 11/26/2010 3:23:53 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Mitt Romney (hiding somewhere):
”Now that my Romneycare (funded 60% by US taxpayers)
is being pushed by my chosen (RINO) “Republicans”,
a little self examination is in order.
You may want to ask yourself 'if I had spent my time promoting
RomneyCare and Mitt Romney, could not
I have today garnered more support
of both President Obama and Governor Romney?'
. Now listen to my Team attack
and go play with your little bananas.“

"Romney praises Obama
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney praised President Obama
at a GOP fundraising dinner Wednesday ..
"I also think it's important for us to nod to the president when he's right," Romney said....
Romney, who spoke at a dinner for the National Republican Senatorial Committee,
said he's pleased with the president's plans to "finish the job" in Iraq and Afghanistan
-- lines that drew applause from the partisan audience. He also applauded the president
for standing up to the auto industry.
"I hope he continues to be tough ....The former businessman even offered faint praise for
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, saying that after a series of initial missteps,
"I think he's finally getting close to the right answer."


67 posted on 11/26/2010 3:26:07 PM PST by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Note to Rove: Just - Shut - Up!

It's time for Rove to leave the stage and fall silent. He's out of touch with the American people, and is nothing more than a RINO Establishment shill.

thank you, Karl. Don't phone us, we'll phone you.....next?

68 posted on 11/26/2010 3:28:06 PM PST by nobdysfool (If the government was in charge of the Sahara, there would be a shortage of sand....)
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To: Jim Robinson
Since when has any GOP candidate for president been chosen based upon the RINO Elites' consensus that they'll "unite Republicans, Deomcrats and Independents"? Was that what they felt Bobdole would do? John McLame? This canard of Tokyo Rove's is just his latest "best guess" at how to start undermining her before she even officially announces.

Once she's on the books as running, if Komrade Karl comes out slandering her like he did Christine O'Donnell, I may just provide him with an object lesson in loyalty and patriotism.

:-|

69 posted on 11/26/2010 3:31:43 PM PST by Gargantua (Another reason why everyone should own fully automatic weapons...)
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To: The Comedian
"...the other stupid/evil meat puppets."

I am going to plagiarize this line, and I will not give any attribution.

8^D

70 posted on 11/26/2010 3:34:36 PM PST by Gargantua (Another reason why everyone should own fully automatic weapons...)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Wait, I’m thinkin’ here. Why? Unless the Republicans unify and identify with the REAL political movement in this country......the Conservative movement just put the onus on the moderates (liberals) in the party. Or am I wrong in my thinkin’? I dunno, it’s been a long week. LOL


71 posted on 11/26/2010 3:35:11 PM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Gargantua
I am going to plagiarize this line, and I will not give any attribution.

Your conscience will destroy you. And then, distanced from her hollowed out and distant husband, I'll swoop in on your alienated and lonely wife...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

72 posted on 11/26/2010 3:38:56 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: muawiyah
Rove really hasn’t ever focused on uniting Republicans. How would he know if that was at all necessary.

BINGO.

"Uniter" Karl Rove to fellow Republican Tancredo:

[You are] "a traitor to the party" and "a traitor to the president".....never "darken the doorstep of the White House."

IMO, Rove is a GOP party-pestilence who has been a "traitor" to the conservative movement and to the tenets and elements of the Tea Party.

His constant unsolicited elitist criticism of Palin is teetering close to sabotage.

73 posted on 11/26/2010 3:41:18 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami (2012: "Ich bin ein Tea Party-er!")
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To: upsdriver

Yes, I think you are right about Rove. I heard a radio interview of Bush 41 last night. Mr. Bush commented he thought Romney was the real deal (my take on what he said). Just imagine Dana Carvey doing an imitation of X41 and you can just hear how X41 said it.

Most all of the nasty comments and slurs against Palin invariably can be traced back to Romney (excluding Dims and libs). One of our FR posters has kept a running log of them.


74 posted on 11/26/2010 3:42:45 PM PST by miele man
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Hey Karl, shut up. Just stfu.


75 posted on 11/26/2010 3:44:44 PM PST by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Abortionist/Statist CommieCare Romney will split us for sure.

He and his cabal of statists operatives (like Rove) will do everything they can to undermine Palin's backside under the guise of "analysis"

We simply can NOT allow Romney any breathing room, any traction at all, nor a foot in the door.

76 posted on 11/26/2010 3:48:43 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami (2012: "Ich bin ein Tea Party-er!")
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Rove has MUCH more to prove to me than Sarah does!


77 posted on 11/26/2010 3:50:32 PM PST by Fudd Fan (Sick of the Romney spam... we get it already, ok?)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Well bless his little heart.

78 posted on 11/26/2010 3:52:39 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

To Rove “uniting” Republicans = conservatives accepting more government, less freedom


79 posted on 11/26/2010 4:04:40 PM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: techno
Question Karl:

Why don’t Romney, Huckabee and Gingrich have the prove the same thing?

Exactly, you hit the nail on the head...

Conservatives unify under common principle not PEOPLE! We saw how ell the Rove approach worked with McCain the "maverick" wacko RINO...

Like any good propagandist Rove seems intent on establishing a "cult of personality" perspective when he speaks about personalities versus principles....

The principles Palin promotes are what unify those that would support her candidacy...

80 posted on 11/26/2010 4:06:29 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: jerry557

Sorry, I meant that statement to read as being incredulous that so much attention is given to voters who lack convictions.

After all, we’re told towards the end of every election that a large percentage of independents haven’t made up their minds when we’re a week or so out - and that we’ll know more when the great thinkers break for a candidate.

Lo and behold, if they start breaking for the Repub, we can then expect an October surprise that will undoubtedly force them to go back into thinker mode.

Now here we are 2 years out from an election and Rove already knows how independents feel about Sarah?

Unfortunately I can’t prove it, but I have a theory that a percentage of “independents who haven’t made up their minds” is a smokescreen for fraud that may be attempted if everything lines up. :-)


81 posted on 11/26/2010 4:12:30 PM PST by Heart of Georgia (OBAMA: One Big Awful Mistake America)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

> “Are they going to join with us in restoring the republic or are they going to go down the road to serfdom with the DemocRATS.”

.
The latter, to be sure.

The elite are Illuminists and globalists. - They have disdain for American Culture (Christian), and sovereignty. They disrespect the masses, and view us as dispensable.
.


82 posted on 11/26/2010 4:26:47 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: techno

> “Why don’t Romney, Huckabee and Gingrich have the prove the same thing?”

.
Because he already knows that they are dedicated to our destruction, just as he is.
.


83 posted on 11/26/2010 4:28:47 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

___________________________________________________________________

I’m a big tent republican.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts?page=6245#6245
Here’s an analogy to work with. Take a small box and fill it with some rocks. Then add some rice, filling it to the top. Now take all the same stuff, but in a different order. Put in the rice first, then add the rocks. What you’ll find is that if you put in the big stuff first, the small stuff will fit around it. But if you put in the small stuff first, the big stuff won’t have room. The republican tent is the box. The Big issues are the socon issues, to be put in first. The little issues are things that can be accommodated around the bigger stuff. A candidate who tries to focus on the smaller issues first and leave out the bigger issues has no way of getting all of us into the tent. He splits the party. The candidate who gets the big stuff right and as much of the little stuff that will fit, he can fit more into the tent. We’re often amazed at how much rice can keep fitting in. Rudy Giuliani flunks some of the big issues, and on some of the little issues it looks to me like anyone else’s rice would do just as well. All that remains for us to agree on is which are the bedrock principles and which are not. Why would there be so much invective aimed at rudy from the right? Because there are some bedrock principles that he is leaving out. Bad move. I see rudybot postings all the time saying that they would vote for Hunter, and I see socon postings that say they would not vote for rudy. That’s a BIG indicator of a few bedrock principles that are being left outside the tent in order to let in some rice.

___________________________________________________________________


84 posted on 11/26/2010 4:33:27 PM PST by Kevmo (Has Obama resigned yet?)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Karl Rove discusses Sarah Palin's book tour and a possible presidential run.

I rather doubt Sarah gives a damn about anything Mr. Blossom has to say...I know I sure as hell don't care.

85 posted on 11/26/2010 4:33:32 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Terpfen

Oh no!! A problem with Democrats? How can this be? Good that someone has told us, especially someone politicaly astute..


86 posted on 11/26/2010 4:40:33 PM PST by Elsiejay (.)
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To: Heart of Georgia

It is very early. I believe Giuliani was the front runner for the GOP nomination in December of 2007.

So a lot can change once the primary gets closer and more and more voters start paying attention. Right now everyone is answering these polls based on name recognition.

It’s going to be a large field. There will be 10-12 candidates. Some are pretenders and will drop quickly. Some will stay in it for awhile. A problem Palin may run into is Ron Paul. If he runs he will unlikely bow out early. If you remember in 2008, Paul stayed in the race for the entire primary process even though McCain already won enough delegates. Paul has the potential to split the Tea Party vote and that could de-rail Palin. Because Ron Paul has some very loyal supporters and many of them are part of the Tea Party.


87 posted on 11/26/2010 4:57:12 PM PST by jerry557
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To: jerry557
Because its the make-up of the electorate. Only 40% of the electorate is conservative. Democrats outnumber Republicans in many swing states like Pennsylvania and Florida. It’s the independents in those states that have the ability to swing the election to the GOP.

And you also slept through the 2010 election? What just happened in those many swing states like PA and FL (and NC, OH, IN, WI, MN, MI, ME, etc., etc.)?

Polarizing is exactly what the voters want. Dem vs. Dem-Lite is only selling on the two left coasts.

88 posted on 11/26/2010 4:57:23 PM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Karl, you’ve been reading my posts again.


89 posted on 11/26/2010 4:58:16 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Ok Rove then STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


90 posted on 11/26/2010 4:59:18 PM PST by ballplayer
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

BTW, Karl, why exactly is the GOP divided in your view? Inquiring minds wanna know...!


He has to push the ‘GOP is divided’ business, because that’s how they get Jeb Bush into the race. American voters have elected a Bush three times and Rove thinks they will twice more. Yes, the Bushes and Rove will favor Romney, but Romney doesn’t have a constituency. They will use Romney to create the party split needed for an excuse to bring in Jeb.

Rove’s analysis is attempting to push Palin to appeal to moderates (violate her principles) and thereby lose the support of many conservatives. This shows he doesn’t understand Palin and the tea party movement. The tea party movement includes many undeclared voters and they should continue to skew independents to the right. Gov. Palin may attempt to appeal to independents via social media and TV, but not by accommodating their ideology or lack thereof.


91 posted on 11/26/2010 5:04:39 PM PST by excopconservative
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To: ChicagoConservative27
She doesn't need to ‘show’ anyone anything - she just needs to be Sarah - and we like it.

You, on the other hand, Rove - we have seen what YOU are made of - You ‘showed” us - and we don't like ya, you puffed up establishment has been.

And that's your problem, isn't it. Sarah's stealing your thunder. You couldn't even load her caribou rifle.,,literally.

92 posted on 11/26/2010 5:05:12 PM PST by maine-iac7 (We Stand Together of We Fall Apart)
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To: meadsjn

Independents turned on Obama.

Look at the exit polls for independents and compare 2008 to 2010. The GOP turnout was up, but the independents are the voting bloc that moved significantly....especially in Ohio, Indiana, and Florida.

In 2008, 52% of independents voted for Obama. In 2010, only 37% of independents voted for Democrats. That means Obama lost 15% of the independent vote. If the GOP runs a candidate that the independents can’t stand, and that 15% goes back to Obama...we will have trouble beating him. That right there is what Karl Rove is worried about. Palin must try to connect with those independents.


93 posted on 11/26/2010 5:11:26 PM PST by jerry557
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To: ChicagoConservative27

A case of the pot calling the kettle black.

He’s saying: “we” (whoever that is) don’t have to “unify” with you, you have to “unify” with “us” (who ever that is).

If Mr. Rove really wants to help the GOP, he should quit publicly criticizing others in the GOP and stick to criticizing the Dims. Maybe he’s NOT trying to help the GOP?


94 posted on 11/26/2010 5:33:12 PM PST by Wuli
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To: ChicagoConservative27

why’s that KKKCarl... cause you said so?


95 posted on 11/26/2010 5:33:51 PM PST by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
"She's got a problem with Independents and she has a problem with Democrats," Rove said about Palin's rating with these groups.

Rove, you traitorous idiot, conservatives will no longer accept republican candidates approved by democrats!

96 posted on 11/26/2010 5:36:29 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: snowrip
Only Rove would think that unifying conservatives with RINOs like himself is a great idea.

I would find a you tube video of Sarah Palin giving "Comrade Karl" Rove a wedgie, and then shoving him head first into a toilet, extremely unifying.

97 posted on 11/26/2010 5:40:43 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: jerry557
In 2010, only 37% of independents voted for Democrats. That means Obama lost 15% of the independent vote. If the GOP runs a candidate that the independents can’t stand, and that 15% goes back to Obama...we will have trouble beating him. That right there is what Karl Rove is worried about. Palin must try to connect with those independents.

According to the only real piece of data that we have, it's Obama that's hated by independents, not Sarah.

Yet you put all the burden of trying to connect with independents on Palin's shoulders and none of the burden on Obama.

You're not right.

98 posted on 11/26/2010 5:43:40 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: jerry557; techno
When you look at head to head polls vs Obama, Romney, Huckabee, and Gingrich are in a dead heat. Palin is like 8 points behind meaning she doesnt have independent support that the other guys already have.

The "Polls" also showed Kerry defeating Bush.

Them "Polls" are really something, aren't they?

99 posted on 11/26/2010 5:46:28 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Texas Eagle
What are the issues RINOs are worried that Sarah won't promote?

Uh, killing babies and catering to the packers/munchers?

100 posted on 11/26/2010 5:57:35 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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