Skip to comments.Obama Praises Indian Chief Who Killed U.S. General
Posted on 11/17/2010 6:21:28 AM PST by USALiberty
A series of two-page spreads asks questions ("Have I told you that you are creative?") across from short tributes. He writes of Georgia O'Keeffe: "She helped us see big beauty in what is small: the hardness of stone and the softness of feather." His most controversial choice may be Sitting Bull, who defeated Custer at Little Bighorn: ("A Sioux medicine man who healed broken hearts and broken promises.")
(Excerpt) Read more at nation.foxnews.com ...
Yes my friend, they were barbaric, if they weren’t, then no people have been so.
***So I’d say you are being wilfully blind to historical reality here. This is not modern historical revisionism. These judgements were carried out shortly after Sand Creek.***
Ever since the army was recalled from the frontier to fight in the Civil War, the indians went on the warpath every sspring and summer, making peace in the winter. After so many settlers were murdered that summer CHIVINGTON handed it back to the indians in spades. He used the indian’s own RULES OF ENGAGEMENT against them, Spare no living thing!
The Indians could dish it out but could not take it!
The Easterners were still filled with Victorian sentiments about war , till Mathew Brady’s photos showed them the real face of WAR! And when CHIVINGTON fought the INDIANS according to their own method of warfare (Kill every living thing) the Easterners went into revulsion over it. The Army needed a scapegoat and Chivington was it! Again, Chivington NEVER backed down from what he had done.
I knew that but that link gave the impression that it was the United States Army, not a Colorado militia, something that is pretty common.
***Actually the Indian war intensified after Sand Creek. He made the situation much worse.****
How did it make the situation worse? Every warrior was required each year to “prove his worth” to the tribe and enhance his tribal status by killing, scalping, stealing from their “enemies or preceived enemies like settlers. So even if Chivington had not dished it out at Sand Creek as the Indians had been doing, the Indians would have still went on the warpath the next year as they always did, peace treaty or no peace treaty. It was built into their social structure.
As I mentioned earlier. One officer is believed to have escaped the area but was killed during that escape. His remains were never found. It’s conceivable that button came from him. I’m not familiar with its finding.
However, the Indians clothed themselves with the 7th’s uniforms. It’s also possible findings such as this, away from the scene, could as well have come from them.
If you look at the top of the map, you'll see item 21C rests outside the boundary. It's listed as "1 metal button". This MAY be what you're referring to. Obviously, there's no spacial reference to be made on how far out of the boundary it was found. But let me go over the book this is from, "Evidence and the Custer Enigma" by Jerome Greene and see what I can find. I seem to recall something mentioned, but it's been awhile. It'll be tomorrow before I can get back on this...
By whose definition?? Not just yours, I hope. I'm sure you have sources to back up your opinion...from both sides???
Oh, of course you do...silly me!
I'm sure we'd all love to know about them. Hows about sharing....you little barbarian, you!!!
Wow, that was quite a post there. Ignorant, childish, and just plain silly.
Old Hickory saw first hand the horrible atrocities committed on American civilians by Indian savages who allied themselves with the Redcoats during The Revolutionary War.
In his mind Jackson owed the Indian nothing because they picked the side they were on.
Your two sentence post has at least three logical absurdities within it. Well done. That takes true dedication, or a natural flair. Nevertheless, being mindful of Proverbs 27:22, I find my wrists are tired.
Oh please don’t think I approve of Jackson’s thinking
Well my sincere apologies to you for that then. I should not read or post on Free Republic when tired and cranky, which is often. This is not an excuse though, so I apologize.
But yes, I have no use for Andrew Jackson, except for the fact that he did respect the Code Duello. I just wish the right person had called him on it. The Trail of Tears is inexcusable.
Something so unwholesome about it—almost like taking the Lord's name in vain.
I acknowledge your point.
This is what it always comes down to with the brainwashed, they can only defend their error with their thoroughly propagandized brain. They use terms like "pejorative", or "offensive" to obfiscate the truth. The term "Indian" was never intended by those who first used it to be a 'pejorative', hence it cannot be one now unless someone tries to distort history for their own purposes. Terming the aboriginies of America "Indians" was a simple mistake in sea navigation, believing they had arrived in India. If anything, it is a pejorative for Columbus and the early explorers, because it highlites their navigational mistake.
As for painting the 100 Indian tribes with a "broad brush", that's just another page from the liberal book of "nothing is black and white, there is mostly just gray area". That's why I couldn't read the rest of your post. You've been thoroughly brainwashed and there's nothing I can say that will change you.
Jiminy!!! You really should read the rest of the post. I believe you and I see things exactly right! In fact, I concur with your explanation of "Indian" and the other poster's inability to deal with facts.
Read it all...then give me your thinking on it!
Of three officers supposedly unaccounted for, evidence for two were found in the Indian village. 1) The head of 2Lt. James Sturgis (son of 7th Cavalry Commander, Col Samuel Sturgis), Co. E. He had apparently been killed at Medicine Tail Coulee. 2) The buckskin jacket of 2Lt. James E. Porter, Co. I. It was assumed that "[Porter] had been mutilated beyond recognition and buried with the other unidentified troopers" *.
The third officer was Lt. Henry M. Harrington, Co. C. His remains were not found. According to the account of Foolish Elk, Harrington may have been the officer who was able to escape East by horse, but killed himself during the pursuit. And, according to this, his remains were discovered a year later, "some miles east nearer the Rosebud River. There his remains would be discovered one year later by Army surgeon Dr. Robert Shufeldt, who misidentified them and after some time in the Army Medical Museum, they ended up in the Smithsonian Institution". It may be that the button at site 21C on the map I provided may have come from him. I could find nothing in the Greene volume to substantiate that.
*From "A Terrible Glory - Custer and the Little Bighorn" by James Donovan, page #311.
Hope this helps...
Thank you so much for your carefully researched data. It’s great that somebody still cares about historical facts. I taught in a rural school in Roberts, Mt. for 8 years and interest was extremely high about the Battle of the Little Bighorn. Many old timers and teachers would debate the smallest detail about the battle. I went on several field trips there and have a general layout of the land. I know Custer divided his men into 3 groups. Reno, Benteen, and himself. The other 2 groups of approx. 200 ea. barely escaped. The Indian guides at the site were careful to point out Sitting Bull’s dreams about a great military victory. keep in touch!
Not only did Custer divide his command into 3 groups before advancing from the divide into the LBH valley, but he then divided his separate group into two wings, one commanded by Capt. George Yates (Co.s E & F), the other commanded by Capt. Myles Keogh ( Co.s C, I & L).
It was Yates’ wing that approached Medicine Tail ford, while Keogh’s wing entered the Luce-Nye/Cartwright ridge areas in reserve, and where considerable volley fire occurred (Much of which can be followed on the map I posted through relic evidence). Both wings then rejoined at Calhoun Hill where Keogh’s command set up a firing line with Co. L in reserve, and Yate’s wing joined headquarters for a movement along Custer Ridge, then down beyond the cemetery area to the Little Bighorn. Capt. Tom Custer rode with headquarters command, leaving 2Lt. Henry Harrington in charge of Co. C.
Oh, so much going on, yet still so much remains a mystery...
How did this America hating bastard ever become president ??
‘Hmmmm, what is the subject of this sentence....?’
Georgia O’Keeffe, early 20th century American painter.
Ever heard of the Cherokees?
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