John Boehner's "GobGop" Plan to Sell Out the Tea Party in 2013. It Will Begin in January 2011.

Gary North's Specific Answers ^ | November 6, 2010 | Gary North

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

First, you must understand that Boehner is a GobGop: a Good Old Boy of the Grand Old Party. The GobGops' goal is to keep the present system funded by the Bigs: Big Business, Big Pharma, Big Oil, and Big Banking. If you do not understand this, then you are as naive as a Democrat who thinks Obama speaks for The Common Man.

Boehner shilled for Hank Paulson and Goldman Sachs by begging the Republicans to vote for the $750+ billion Big Bank Bailout in 2008. Watch his emotional performance here. "We just have to do it!" No, they didn't. Ron Paul told it straight. He is no GobGop.

Boehner is going to do it again. He has already told us what he intends to do.

The obvious target is Obamacare. The Tea Party voters hate it. They regard it as an affront.

You've probably seen this. It's all over the Web. It's supposedly from Maxine, the cartoon character who speaks for geezerdom.

Let me get this straight . . . . We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan

we are forced to purchase and fined if we don't,
Which purportedly covers at least ten million more people, without adding a single new doctor,
but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents,
written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it,
passed by a Congress that didn't read it
but exempted themselves from it,
and signed by a President who smokes,
with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes,
for which we'll be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect,
by a government which has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare,
all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese,
and financed by a country that's broke!!!!!

'What the heck could possibly go wrong?'

This is all true. Tea Party people know it's all true. They threw the rascals out . . . but left enough of them behind to sell us out.

Boehner told a Fox News interviewer what he plans to do: (1) repeal Obamacare; (2) pass another heath care law. You can see the video here. Here is a direct quote:

"This health care bill will ruin the best health care system in the world, and it will bankrupt our country. We are going to repeal ObamaCare and replace it with common sense reforms that will bring down the cost of health insurance."

Big Pharma is not threatened by this. Big Pharma will clean up either way.

If Boehner is politically savvy, he will have the Republicans introduce a repeal bill as soon as he takes over as Speaker of the House. The following will then take place.

1. A straight party vote will pass it.
2. In the Senate, the Democrats will not pass it.
3. Boehner will then begin a two-year campaign:

"The Republican Party is committed to a repeal of Obamacare. In 2012, you will have another opportunity to vote the Democrats out of power in the Senate, and give the Republicans a President who will sign this bill."

He will play to the Tea Party. He will gain their trust. He will throw down the gauntlet on health insurance from day one. He will hammer relentlessly on this for two years.

The goal here is to get the Tea Party voters into his camp. He is a GobGop. But it's obvious that he will score lots of points by doing this.

In 2012, the Republicans will take over the Senate and elect a President. It will repeal Obamacare. Then the Republican GobGops will introduce another huge bill that they promise will cut medical costs.

They will not cut spending. They will not raise taxes. They will preside over a gigantic deficit.

The pork will continue to flow.

The Tea Party people will sense betrayal. Then we will see how committed they are to getting the spending under control . . . in 2015. Too late, I think.

The sell-out is coming. It will be business as usual. The GobGops now control the House. They can posture all they want, knowing the Senate will block their token spending cuts. The GobGops will scream: "If we only controlled the Senate! If we only controlled the White House! Then we could get spending under control!" You know: the way they did under Bush.

It will make great political theater. Punch and Judy will perform a real donnybrook. A good time will be had by all.

The Bigs will get bigger. They always do.

Forward this to friends. Post it on Twitter and Facebook. The troops need to be warned what's coming.

[eyedigress]

The Republicans of the house and senate have two years. You stated it well. They will get the wrath of freedom and the tea party everywhere. The dems can suck bananas.

[tennmountainman]

Let me play devils advocate. Would the senate, there again have to go along? Then you would have a government shut-down. And the GOP have already said they will not shut down the government?

[tennmountainman]

“There really isn’t much difference in the end”

As Savage likes to say, “They are two wings of the same bird of prey”

[Candor7]

History shows that it WILL happen unless the fresmen congressmen organize to stop it now.

Divide conservatives, NO ! Conservatives need to unite against these country club sell our progressives who do nothing but thwart the will of the people.

The GOP is where it is today because of the conservative vote.And we demand a conservative speaker of the house.

Boener just won’t cut it:

1)

Rep. John A. Boehner’s vote last month against a bill cracking down on illegal immigration is sending “tremors” through the House Republican Conference as the Ohio lawmaker pushes his candidacy for House majority leader.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2006/jan/11/20060111-121934-8017r/

2)
John Boehner Shows His RINO Stripes As He Hints at Bush Tax Cut Deal with Obama

http://www.zimbio.com/John+Boehner/articles/ugmzQJARQW2/John+Boehner+Shows+RINO+Stripes+Hints+Bush

3)
Boehner is leading the charge to de-fund ACORN, but in the same breath he is willing to support the campaign of this alleged Republican, Dede Scozzafava:

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2009/10/grim_rino_tales.html

4)

BOEHNER: RAISE SOCIAL SECURITY RETIREMENT AGE TO 70

http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2010/06/boehner-raise-social-security.html

5) Dick Armey Backs Boehner’s Strategy On Tax Cuts (Armey racking up RINO chits today)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2588320/posts

And I could post another 30 links.

WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!

We want and need a conservative speaker with backbone, and the inflexible will to forward the conservative agenda of Death Care repeal and tax cuts. Boener is not the man for the job.His record clearly shows that.Eric Chantor is no better.

One of these Republican leaders would do MUCH better:

Paul Ryan

Darrell Issa

Marsha Blackburn

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11622774

Now progressives can waive your bi-partisan wand for Boener all you want. It will not change his record. And for same reason you do not understand that every time Republicans achieve power they knuckle under to the Dems bi partisan meme. WHY? Power is meant to be exercised on behalf of conservative voters who fueled this win, and no need to apologize either.

The dems are afraid that they will get some of their own medicine and they fear the conservative agenda. Republicans were LOCKED OUT of the legislative conference on death care. Pelosi even changed the locks on the congressional conference room doors to keep Republicans out, and now the Dems plead for bi partisanship?

Buahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

We need to exercise some authority and unity to get the conservative agenda done.Boener and Chantor will not do that IMHO.

ITS TIME!!!

WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH!!!!!

[Secret Agent Man]

And not just conservatives will vote them out. Lots of independents will too if they do not do what they promised they would do. People are getting more pissed off government is not representing them the way they believed it would. Some of these issues are larger than party, like destroying the currency, running up debt we’ll never pay back, destroying 1000’s of years of contract law by forcing unwilling parties into contracts they do not want to be in (mandated health insurance), a federal government that’s unconsitutionally micro-managing all aspects of our lives and at each point, taking away freedoms they have no right to take away. And more.

[tennmountainman]

“The parties appear to oppose one another but in the end they walk in the same direction”

Kind of like wrestlers. They trash talk each other, get in ring, put on a show. Then they get on the same bus heading out to the next venue, to do it all over again.

[LADY J]

I love your tagline!! Now we need a FReeper to photoshop a visual!!

[TCH]

Gary North?

The same Gary North who stated with 99.99 percent certainty that Y2K was going to decimate the world as we know it?

The same Gary North whose unending stream of predictions ALL proved WRONG!? That Gary North?

Yeah... sure... whatever you say, Gary (poster clicks the “off” button).

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

The source post is devoid of facts or evidence. If you assume that is true, what is your recourse? Either abandoning the electoral process or going third party (two ways of doing the same thing). Gary North’s origins in the John Birch Society make his political analysis without any redeeming value. Stick to economics and finance, Gary.

[A CA Guy]

In 2012 another third of the Senate comes up for an election as will the house again. We will see how that goes then.
Either there is a lot of effort soon or there will be lots of primary challenges all over, maybe even as Democrats where parties cross over to vote in the primaries.

[Still Thinking]

Exactly! There IS a problem with health care, but it’s TOO MUCH government involvement, the residue of TOO MUCH goobermint involvement in years gone past, and of an industry that thinks acting like the government is a successful business model. HSA’s for all! HMO’s against the wall!

[Nowhere Man]

We got to hold their feet to the fire and remind them on what it took to get them in there. I am hopeful but we must continue the work to enforce those values and principles and make sure they stick to the program. We must realize that we might not get 100% of what we want and this will take time but we must strive to make it as close to that mark as we can.

[TCH]

“In 2012, the Republicans will take over the Senate and elect a President. It will repeal Obamacare. Then the Republican GobGops will introduce another huge bill that they promise will cut medical costs. They will not cut spending. They will not raise taxes. They will preside over a gigantic deficit. The pork will continue to flow.”

Uhm... that’s HIS opinion... ABSENT A SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE to back up his contention. More “predictions” propagated by “THE” KING of WRONG predictions!

[Lauren BaRecall]

I like Paul Ryan.

[Heart of Georgia]

“Boehner told a Fox News interviewer what he plans to do: (1) repeal Obamacare; (2) pass another heath care law.”

“In 2012, the Republicans will take over the Senate and elect a President. It will repeal Obamacare. Then the Republican GobGops will introduce another huge bill that they promise will cut medical costs.”

Wonder if this is what Boehner has in mind:

The Healthy Americans Act / Wyden-Bennett

[BlessingsofLiberty]

The Gary North??? Mr. Y2K...uh, I don’t think this guy knows which end is up.

John Boehner fought Obamacare and Cap n Crap...tooth and toenail. Without control of both houses and the elimination of Obama, there can be no repeal of Obamacare. That will come in due time.

Right now, it will be defund and defang.

Our work has just started. Keep up the good fight and don’t give up.

[nathanbedford]

I think we always have to be very careful when we cite history to justify criticism of politicians acting on economic matters. This author, Gary North, refers us to a speech in the well of the House of John Boehner in support of Tarp-this was not in support of the subsequent "porkulus" bill engineered by Barak Obama and not supported by any Republican except the one from New Orleans.

This is a very different matter from the "porkulus" bill and it cannot reasonably be summoned up to support a projection of Boehner's future behavior. We simply do not not yet know how Boehner is going to behave and his speech about tarp is of very little instructive use. We do know that he voted against "porkulus" and everything else that came along including Obama care, as did the rest of the Republicans almost unanimously.

At the time of the tarp Bill I posted this reply expressing my lack of clarity on the matter. I reproduce this reply from 2008 to remind us all how difficult such an emergency situation can be for those charged with the protection of the Republic:

"I have not yet posted on the wisdom of the bail out because, frankly, I do not know what to say. I do not know what to say because of the things I do not know. First, I do not know if the bailout plan will work. Second, I do not know if the entire world system will crash without such a plan. Third, I do not know what the odds are of either a successful bailout or a world crash so I cannot weigh the severity of potential harm against the likelihood of the harm occurring.

I know what my ideology is, I am opposed to government meddling in the economy on the way up and on the way down either by picking winners or by rescuing losers. On the other hand, I recognize the extreme danger to the very survival of my ideology should the country descend into a depression. I am well read enough to know about the Great Depression and what it did to other democracies around the world and how close our own American democracy came to descending into communism. So, I do not know in which direction lurks a greater danger to the ideal of conservatism.

I do know that the Constitution as written prohibits virtually every facet of the proposed bailout plan. I know that no federal court that I can think of will conceivably declare any part of the plan to be repugnant to the constitution. Therefore, I know I cannot rely on the courts to protect the Constitution. However, I also know that the political will will triumph regardless of the Constitution and it is bootless to fall on one's ideological sword to no purpose.

I do not know what it is like to live through a depression although my father has described what it was like in the rural South when people literally had no money and had to contrive a barter economy. On the other hand, I do not know what it is like to live through a raging inflation such as was sustained here in Germany during the Weimar and even today in Zimbabwe. I do not know if doing nothing will generate a depression. I do not know if these bailouts will generate hyperinflation.

I do know that if abandoning my ideology long enough to countenance the bailout would save the country from a depression, I would do it in a heartbeat.

I am not sure that those people on these threads who claim to know the answers to all these questions really know what they're talking about. I do not know if they are so sure about their facts only because they are so certain in their ideology. I do not know if those people who are so certain in their opposition to the bailout, including our national pundits, are so certain only because otherwise their ox gets gored. So I do not know how to come down on one side or the other based on the motives of the partisans on either side of the bailout question. I simply do not know what their motives really are.

I do know that economics is called the dismal science and now I know why.

Given the state of my ignorance, I am going to embark on a new course, I am going to practice humility."

Later after the bill was law, a posted retrospectively on the matter (tarp) as follows:

[Quoting a FReeper:] Only when the market has corrected the imbalances made during the boom can recovery begin to take place. Government policy can postpone the correction (at the expense of longer term pain), but it can’t prevent the correction from occurring.

"I'm inclined to agree with it because it makes common sense to me. But what about the idea (which in fairness you allude to) that government intervention can change the timeline and provide opportunity for a softer landing granting the market time to make its correction in a less violent way. That might be very desirable because the very violence of a sharp market correction might destroy the entire economic structure. That, at least, was the argument confronting George Bush when he had to make his decision. I think what I have described is approximately George Bush's justification for what he did.[In fact, I think Bush does make that argument in his recent memoir.] The difficulty of predictability in the dismal science because of the difficulty in isolating changing values, because the study is one of moving targets, should provoke a great deal of humility in asserting our doctrines.

George Bush did not have the luxury of academic debate. As I said before, the downside if George Bush was wrong was the loss of a few hundred billion dollars (not counting what the Fed did) and the downside if you were wrong is destruction of our entire financial system and the end of the American way of life. George Bush had to make that decision on the spot. I cannot fault him even though you and I have the luxury of hindsight."

So before we indict and convict John Boehner, or any other Republican, let's put these matters in perspective and let's not forget how they voted on every other issue that came along.

I do not understand the point of this article except to rave.

[fantom]

Worthless gibberish .

[casuist]

Big oil? Big pharma? The writer is not a conservative. This is agitprop.

[nathanbedford]

Bugger off!