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Mark Kirk R-IL to miss part of lame-duck session (until Dec - two new RATS will be seated)
ABC local ^ | 11/06/10

Posted on 11/06/2010 10:31:55 AM PDT by Libloather

Kirk to miss part of lame-duck session
Updated at 11:36 AM today

November 6, 2010 (SPRINGFIELD, Ill.) -- Illinois Republican Mark Kirk won't be seated in the U.S. Senate in time for the start of the lame duck session of Congress this month -- unlike two other newly elected senators.

The session begins Nov. 15. But state officials say the paperwork officially declaring Kirk the winner of the Senate race won't be delivered until Nov. 29.

That should still allow Kirk to participate in two weeks of the session in December. He argued strongly during the campaign that voters needed to send him to the Senate quickly so he could help block spending and tax increases.

Two Democrats are expected to be sworn in at the start of the lame duck session. Chris Coons of Delaware will fill the remainder of Vice President Joe Biden's term, and Joe Manchin of West Virginia replaces the late Robert Byrd.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chicagoway; duck; kirk; lame; markkirk; ratdirtytricks; rats; rino; rinocover
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Amazing.
1 posted on 11/06/2010 10:32:02 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Paperwork held up by the Mayor of Chicago?


2 posted on 11/06/2010 10:34:48 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Libloather

GOP should go ballistic and tout this everywhere (including cable TV) as an evidence of abuse of power, illegal obstruction of election result etc.

GOP should also file lawsuits to force dems to do this.

Of course, we all know this is not going to happen. GOP is not saying anything.


3 posted on 11/06/2010 10:35:53 AM PDT by heiss
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To: Libloather

I am really tired of this. Seat them all now or none of them or go to jail for not doing so.


4 posted on 11/06/2010 10:40:02 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Libloather

“But state officials say the paperwork officially declaring Kirk the winner of the Senate race won’t be delivered until Nov. 29.”

Way to disenfranchise the Illinois voters, Democrats. But then I guess that’s what they specialize in.


5 posted on 11/06/2010 10:41:20 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Libloather

So the other guy, the Rat appointed by Blago, gets to continue in this seat at the start of the lame-duck!? Can they get anymore corrupt?!


6 posted on 11/06/2010 10:43:08 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Libloather

One does have to wonder what would have happened if the election went the other way.


7 posted on 11/06/2010 10:43:18 AM PDT by BobL (The whole point of being human is knowing when the party's over.)
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To: Libloather

don’t worry....Manchin is our god...he’ll vote conservative straight thru.....right?


8 posted on 11/06/2010 10:46:21 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Libloather

Horse crap. Did you see him out eating lunch with that mafia thug Giannoulias the other day?

Kirk is just a RAT with an “R” by his name.

This is so he won’t have to show his RAT hand in the lame duck session.


9 posted on 11/06/2010 10:46:22 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Libloather

Protest. The only thing to stop this is widespread public anger.


10 posted on 11/06/2010 10:46:33 AM PDT by dr_who
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To: Libloather

There is very little difference between Kirk and a democrap.


11 posted on 11/06/2010 10:47:48 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Libloather

Will Manchin who ran against the Dems as a Dem turn into the Obama/Reid rubber stamp?


12 posted on 11/06/2010 10:49:12 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: indylindy
Kirk is just a RAT with an “R” by his name.

You can complain all you want about Kirk being a RINO but he has always been strong on the issue of the Bush tax cuts and that is one of the big issues that will be brought up in the lame duck session. Believe me, we want Kirk in there for that vote.

13 posted on 11/06/2010 10:51:02 AM PDT by Inyokern
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To: dr_who

“Protest. The only thing to stop this is widespread public anger.”

I am predicting right now - this kind of crap is going to explode into violence.

We take it and take it and take it. Soon we ain’t gonna take it any more. Look out media, look out liberals, look out democrats when it does explode.


14 posted on 11/06/2010 10:51:30 AM PDT by eCSMaster
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To: Libloather

The extremist Democrats are going to try for two years of damage in less than two months. They are shameless.


15 posted on 11/06/2010 10:53:18 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Libloather; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Graybeard58; BlackElk; Dengar01; calcowgirl
Gee, all that endless talk during the campaign about we "had to" elect Kirk because he would "stop Obama" during the lame-duck session, and now it turns out he won't even be in the Senate for most of it. And funny how lukewarm the GOP was about helping the other two Republicans running in special elections -- Christine O'Donnell of DE, and John Raese of WV, if it was such a "huge priority" to ensure the RATs wouldn't pass any bad stuff before January.

Another Kirk campaign talking point that got us nowhere. Like all the stuff about how he'd "oppose activist judges" and "lead the fight against Obamacare". Which one will be next? I bet Kirk helps draft a "new" version of cap n' trade and uses the excuse that he would have voted against the "original bill" from the House but this "new" version is "thoughtful and bipartisan" so he's not breaking his campaign promise.

My guess is this little arragement to keep Roland Burris in for the lame-duck session to vote the "right" way was decided during Kirk's little closed-door "beer summit" with his pal Alexi. Kirk had to make some concessions since Alexi "took one for the team"

And some freepers still don't get it. "Kirk might not be such of a RINO in the Senate, let's wait and see and give him a chance" "Brady lost and Kirk won because Brady was too socially conservative and Quinn painted him as anti-woman".

The polling numbers for months are completely at odds with the election results. There's no way Kirk got more votes in suburban Crook when he didn't even campaign there while Brady stumped here endlessly. The numbers in Crook county were fixed. Kirk is in the Senate because the Chicago machine WANTED him there. He takes his marching orders from them.

Any of the Kirk apologists out there who want to prove me wrong, go ahead. Let me know when Obama starts quaking in his boots that the big bad "fiscal conservative" has arrived to "stop him"

16 posted on 11/06/2010 10:55:16 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Red Steel

Is water wet?

Are West Virginia voters dupes?


17 posted on 11/06/2010 10:55:29 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: eCSMaster

Violence would be the absolute worst thing for the conservative cause, and an excuse to govern even more corruptly from the left.


18 posted on 11/06/2010 10:56:11 AM PDT by Flightdeck (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: Inyokern

Still shillin’ for the Socialist, I see.


19 posted on 11/06/2010 10:58:22 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Libloather
I found another article with additional explanation:

The process of officially declaring Kirk the winner and transmitting that information to Washington has several steps.

First, local election authorities finish counting votes and send the results to the State Board of Elections. The deadline for that is Nov. 19, said David Druker, spokesman for Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White. On Nov. 23, the Board of Elections meets to officially certify the winner.

After that, White and Gov. Pat Quinn sign a form notifying the U.S. Senate that Kirk has been elected. The paperwork then goes to the Senate, which next meets on Nov. 29.

I'd be interested to know if all of these dates/deadlines are set by law, or if this is just typical Chicago dem obstructionism.

20 posted on 11/06/2010 10:59:35 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Libloather

Who’s more conservative...Kirk or Manchin?


21 posted on 11/06/2010 11:00:23 AM PDT by proudpapa (Proudpapa)
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To: Libloather

this is typical. Just as typical as Democrat operatives finding boxes or bags of ballots in close races.


22 posted on 11/06/2010 11:01:34 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Libloather

So that’s their plan?

Try to ram everything thru in the two weeks of Nov. 15-29?

Lisa Murkowski better not flip.


23 posted on 11/06/2010 11:01:34 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (and now, back to our regularly scheduled MSM lies)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Still shillin’ for the Socialist, I see.

If you think there is no difference between Kirk and Burris (the current senator) on the issue of the Bush tax cuts then you are impervious.

Do you want to see the Bush tax cuts extended or don't you?

24 posted on 11/06/2010 11:10:58 AM PDT by Inyokern
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To: Libloather

But will Burris sit in the seat until then, or is he gone now?


25 posted on 11/06/2010 11:24:15 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: BillyBoy
There's no way Kirk got more votes in suburban Crook when he didn't even campaign there while Brady stumped here endlessly.

Huh? Are you even from Illinois? Kirk is FROM suburban Cook. Brady was unknown in Cook County. Literally unknown. 90% of the people in the Chicago area never heard of him.

26 posted on 11/06/2010 11:28:46 AM PDT by Inyokern
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To: BillyBoy
In short, Kirk is the same ultra liberal a-hole he's always been - if not worse.
27 posted on 11/06/2010 11:30:58 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Inyokern

If you read this article, he won’t be seated for the lame duck session.


28 posted on 11/06/2010 11:36:21 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Inyokern

How much is the Combine paying you to plant myths about this fraud ?


29 posted on 11/06/2010 11:37:06 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Graybeard58

I’m unfortunatly from Ill-I-noize. Yep, Kirk is an A-hole.


30 posted on 11/06/2010 11:37:17 AM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: Lockbar
I’m unfortunatly from Ill-I-noize.

I am too. I voted for Mike Labno, I helped him get his 2+% of the vote. I didn't think for a minute that he would win but as the only candidate on the ballot who was pro life and pro 2a, he got my vote.

Mark Kirk will align himself just a dab to the left of Collins and Snowe.

I don't want to see anybody on here praising this as a great "conservative" victory, as our state has just sent another far leftist to the Senate.

31 posted on 11/06/2010 11:47:08 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: fieldmarshaldj
How much is the Combine paying you to plant myths about this fraud ?

This is slander and I demand an apology. How much are Dems paying you?

32 posted on 11/06/2010 11:47:53 AM PDT by Inyokern
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To: Inyokern

Unfortunately brady read the polls and was coasting the last week. He did not even campaign over the final weekend. He must have forgotten that he was in illinois where a republican has to win by a 5 percent margin or the election will be stolen.


33 posted on 11/06/2010 11:48:52 AM PDT by Friend of the Friendless (R-Illinois)
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To: Inyokern
"How much are Dems paying you?"

You're shilling for one, you tell me.

34 posted on 11/06/2010 11:50:05 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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Yes, I am from Illinois and I'm also a lifelong resident of suburban Cook County. Are you?

Most of Kirk's congressional district is in Lake County. The Cook County portion, consisting of the far north suburbs along the lakefront, is the wealthiest portion of the state. Towns like Kenilworth where the average home costs a million bucks. It has very little in common with the rest of Cook. Kirk talked about his "suburban agenda", which was limited to his own district. He gave the other 90% of suburbia the middle figure and was AWOL at every event I attended.

Bill Brady is from downstate Bloomington-Normal. His son Will attends law school at DePaul University in Chicago so he has a visible presence here. His son was kind enough to drive by my house during the primary and drop off supplies when I couldn't get any. After the primary, Bill Brady realized he needed to get his message out here so from Feb. to Nov. he had roughly 75% of his campaign events in Chicagoland. Bill Brady was in my local community at least half a dozen times in the past few months (at the opening of the Worth Township Republican office, Evergreen Park Independence Parade, etc.), meeting and greeting thousands of voters -- mostly middle and working class communities. Mark Kirk was AWOL at every one of them. I never ONCE saw Kirk in the southwest suburbs (gee, we have only 500,000 people, must not be important). Even Kirk's website says the only event Kirk had in "my region" the entire campaign was a closed-door fundraiser in Palos Heights.

This election was fixed. Wake up, Inyokern.

35 posted on 11/06/2010 11:55:48 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

He’s just playing stupid, he knows the score. He’s one of the online footsoldiers for the fix. The most corrupt farce in Illinois since November 1960, and a visceral affront to a free republican democracy. Why bother with voting when the results are predetermined ? Well past time the people return the favor upon these tyrannical oppressors with all due vigilance.


36 posted on 11/06/2010 12:04:28 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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He should just show uo with his sleeping bag and refuse to leave the senate seat.


37 posted on 11/06/2010 12:04:52 PM PDT by troy McClure
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To: fieldmarshaldj; calcowgirl
These Kirk shills are more disgusting than the man himself. They're out coming up with fictional “reasons” why Kirk won & Brady lost (Brady's views on abortion scared away the suburban moms!!) and I can't let them get away with this crap. Funny how Congressman Lipinski EASILY won the “moderate” suburban Crook County when he's 100% pro-life and vocal about it. Of course the difference is he's combine approved.

None of the poll numbers reflected their “explanation” that Kirk appealed more to females and “minorities” in the suburbs (especially since Kirk's negatives about twice as high as Brady's going into the election), but since when did facts matter?

Now they have lots more excuses to shove down “electable” (i.e. socialist) RINOs down our throats in 2012.

I've pretty much given up on this state. The combine runs everything and gets plenty of support from useful idiot “conservatives”

38 posted on 11/06/2010 12:16:02 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Inyokern
Literally unknown. 90% of the people in the Chicago area never heard of him.

What cost Brady was the third party vote. ~8% went third in the governors race, while ~3% went third party in the senate race. That is how Blago got his 2nd term..

39 posted on 11/06/2010 12:16:25 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: BillyBoy

As this map shows (with the right colors, not the newsspeak propaganda crap), Quinn is Governor of Chicago and the dead, Democrat-ruined localities of East St. Louis and Cairo (and even the latter two couldn't muster much enthusiasm for him)... to have fraud in one single county override the wishes of virtually the other 99% of the state is outrageous beyond description.

40 posted on 11/06/2010 12:25:56 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; troy McClure
The decision to let Roland Burris stay in the Senate was obviously done with Kirk's approval behind-the-scenes, otherwise he'd be raising hell about it. Note the two RATs who won special elections in November are going to be seated immediately without any problems.

Allowing Burris to stay in the Senate for the lame-duck lets Kirk save face. He'd be politiically damaged if he immediately began voting for all of Obama's lame-duck schemes a week after promising not to. Now he can just give press conferences claiming he would have voted against the RAT schemes, and have breathing room to support the socialist agenda after the "reasons" for electing Kirk are forgotten.

Troy McClure, check out this thread of Kirk getting all kissy with his "opponent" Alexi , and tell me with a straight face he's serious about "stopping Obama"

41 posted on 11/06/2010 12:32:00 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: indylindy

I have more faith in Manchin than Kirk.


42 posted on 11/06/2010 12:59:27 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: BillyBoy
This election was fixed. Wake up, Inyokern.

Explain to me again why the Dems would fix the election to have Kirk beat Obama's best buddy Giannoulias. Or maybe you believe Labno actually won.

I am not saying the Dems never steal elections. Of course they do and I am worried about the Walsh/Bean race northwest of Chicago. I think they are trying to steal that one. However, anyone who thinks the Dems would purposely lose Obama's old Senate seat to Kirk is just plain delusional.

43 posted on 11/06/2010 1:10:32 PM PDT by Inyokern
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To: BillyBoy
Yes, I am from Illinois and I'm also a lifelong resident of suburban Cook County. Are you?

I live in what used to be Kirk's congressional district. I had never heard of Brady before he won the senatorial primary. Are you saying you HAD? How many people around Chicago knew who he was? He had been a state senator from Bloomington. Unfortunately, Quinn was able to paint him as some kind of radical and Brady never was able to introduce himself to the electorate.

44 posted on 11/06/2010 1:29:30 PM PDT by Inyokern
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To: BillyBoy
My guess is this little arragement to keep Roland Burris in for the lame-duck session to vote the "right" way was decided during Kirk's little closed-door "beer summit" with his pal Alexi.

This is so stupid, I don't know where to begin. If they were going to make a deal like that, why would they do it at the "beer summit" in front of every reporter in town? And, in any case, Kirk has no say in when he gets seated so how could he make a deal about it?

45 posted on 11/06/2010 1:33:58 PM PDT by Inyokern
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To: Inyokern; fieldmarshaldj
>> Explain to me again why the Dems would fix the election to have Kirk beat Obama's best buddy Giannoulias. Or maybe you believe Labno actually won. <<

Very simple.

Giannoulias is extremely damaged by the feds seizing Broadway Bank and is damaged goods. Nobody respects him and the fact he's an Obama lackey means he will have very little pull in the U.S. Senate. If Obama announces he wants amnesty, gay marriage, assault weapons ban, etc., Giannoulias pimping for that agenda will have very little weight and certainly won't sway RINOs or moderate Democrats to back something because some Chicago crook wants it.

Kirk is not damaged goods. He's a pathelogical liar but he doesn't have any criminal activity on his record (even though he's just as cozy with scumbags like Tony Rezko as Alexi is). The mainstream media LOVES Kirk. He is their "model Republican". He will be the media's go-to guy whenever they need to show Obama is "reaching out to Republicans", even when Obama is pushing a completely unacceptable socialist scheme down our throats that no Republican on earth (except Kirk!) would touch. Kirk has long considered himself a "leader" of the RINOs (he started the "moderate" Tuesday Group in the House to have regular stragedy sessions with RATs on how to pass their agenda) and will be extremely useful in swaying RINOs and Moderate Democrats into getting on board with Obama's agenda. If Obama announces he wants amnesty, gay marriage, assault weapons ban, etc., Kirk will support it just like Ginnalinas would, but he will be far more effective, making the rounds of the nightly talk shows to tell everyone how such legislation is "thoughtful" and "moderate", attacking his own party's ideas as "outside the mainstream".

Kirk will be far more useful to the socialist cause, he's in a position to do alot more damage by virtue of his status in the mainstream media (the Chicago media even refused to report the main was a pathelogical liar until the national media picked it up and forced them too) and sweetheart boyscout image. If you can't see that, you're blind.

And no I don't think Labno really won. I've said a million times that Labno was simply a protest vote against the two socialists and had no shot at winning. By your snarky comment, you must be deaf too.

Speaking of Joe Walsh, he managed to overtake Bean even though the national and state party 'wrote him off', and even many local conservatives figured he had no shot and gave up after he wouldn't withdraw from the face. But Walsh focused like a laser bean on Bean's terrible record and hypocrisy and never let up, turning the electorate against her in Lake and McHenry counties by decisive margins, and won thanks to a huge GOP push nationally. But you will notice there's one spot he lost -- the Crook County part of the district. In that spot, Bean prevailed by 54%, even though the district is in the most Republican region of Crook. So if you concede there's vote fraud, you are correct.

I suspect at least 20,000 fradulent votes were cast for Quinn & other combiners like Bean, Berrios, etc. in suburban Crook alone. Many union goons instructed their members to "cross over" for Kirk since he was in danger of losing. I was an election judge in suburban Crook that day, I would be willing to testify under oath about numerous "questionable" things that unfolded that day. But it doesn't matter, the IL GOP has folded like a cheap suit, and told Brady to concede. And the vote fraud will continue.

The combine team was Quinn/Kirk all along. How else do you explain that Brady is AHEAD by 7+ points right before election day, Kirk is TIED, but then on election day -- Kirk wins and Brady loses? There is no doubt what happened.

46 posted on 11/06/2010 1:34:15 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy
The combine team was Quinn/Kirk all along. How else do you explain that Brady is AHEAD by 7+ points right before election day, Kirk is TIED, but then on election day -- Kirk wins and Brady loses? There is no doubt what happened.

Heavens!!! The polls were wrong!!! When has that ever happened before???

Obama came to Illinois twice to personally campaign for Giannoulias. Giannoulias was Obama's hand picked candidate. This was Obama's old seat. Of all the Dem losses, this one was the most damaging to Obama's prestige. The Dems NEVER wanted to lose this seat.

47 posted on 11/06/2010 1:40:14 PM PDT by Inyokern
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To: Inyokern; fieldmarshaldj
>> I live in what used to be Kirk's congressional district. I had never heard of Brady before he won the senatorial primary. Are you saying you HAD? How many people around Chicago knew who he was? <<

I certainly did, because this is Brady's second run for Governor. He ran statewide in 2006 and came in third in the primary, behind Oberweis and Topinka. He actually did much better in Crook County during that election. You must be the only Republican in the state who didn't notice his presence in that election, the Oberweis people have been making a big stink about it (since Brady refused to withdraw and endorse Obie) for the last four years.

So you didn't notice Brady on the ballot in 2006, and you're calling me stupid?

The fact you "used to live in Kirk's district" speaks volumes. By any chance do you think people who support partial-birth abortion are "socially moderate" and that people who vote for TARP and SCHIP are "fiscally conservative taxpayer watchdogs"? The kool-aid up there must be mighty tasty!

48 posted on 11/06/2010 1:48:32 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Inyokern
When have the polls been wrong about a candidate 7 points ahead losing, while on the same ballot there's a candidate 2 points behind that wins? Never. 7 points is not within the margin of error. Brady's loss and Kirk's win is unprecedented. If you can find another example where there's such a big discrepancy between the numbers the day before the election and the numbers on election day, let me know. Even in Florida, Bush and Gore were neck-and-neck in the closing days of the campaign.
49 posted on 11/06/2010 1:51:40 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Inyokern
"Giannoulias Kirk was Obama's hand picked candidate."

Fixed it for you. Honesty isn't one of your better qualities, is it ? Do you think putting out Combiner propaganda gives you any credibility, pal ?

50 posted on 11/06/2010 1:54:00 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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