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CA: Reverse AB 32 With Proposition 23 (global warming)
Capitol Weekly ^ | 10/21/10 | Dr. Margo Thorning

Posted on 10/22/2010 8:29:11 PM PDT by calcowgirl

Economists are famous for avoiding definitive statements by saying “on the one hand” followed immediately by “on the other hand.” In the case of California’s Proposition 23, however, the sound one would hear from economists is both hands clapping.

Voters will take up Prop. 23 in less than four weeks, but the ramifications will last decades. The bill would suspend AB 32, the Global Warming Act of 2006 by freezing all its provisions until California's unemployment rate drops below 5.5 perecent for four consecutive quarters.

The state’s economic situation is difficult, to say the least. The latest unemployment numbers published by the Bureau of Labor Statistics for August 2010 was 12.4% and state officials are trying to negotiate a framework to cut the massive budget deficit of $19 billion.

With joblessness so high and a general lack of economic vitality, why focus on a bill about greenhouse gases? Because AB 32 is essentially a “cap and trade” scheme that would lead to further job loss and be a major impediment to an economic recovery.

A federal cap and trade proposal pushed by California's own Rep. Henry Waxman would have been harmful for the nation and more particularly the Golden State. The American Council for Capital Formation studied the impact of the Kerry-Lieberman Senate cap and trade bill, which would reduce California’s gross state product by as much as $54 billion per year by 2030. The bottom line: For government entities, costs for services, including public transportation and vehicle fleets, such as school buses, would also have gone up.

Here's the truly shocking piece to keep in mind: The current California plan would actually be worse for the state's residents than the Waxman Markey or the Kerry Lieberman bills. That's because a federal plan would have, to a large extent, spread the pain over multiple states, while a go-it-alone law by California means that all that misery will have no company.

This isn’t just a guess; a March report of California’s own Air Resources Board (CARB) tested several different scenarios and found that the state would end up losing between 0.2 to 1.4 percent of its GDP in 2020 by implementing the law’s provisions. Meanwhile, job loss estimates generally ranged from 220,000 and 320,000.

As the public has had more time to reflect on the issue, AB 32 hasn’t fared well.

Last year, a poll from EMC Research found that many voters had not heard of AB 32's details but were not happy upon being further educated. Two-thirds of voters said they would be more likely to support AB 32 if it placed more weight on market-based programs. Meanwhile, more than six in 10 said they would prefer the regulations be phased in over time to reduce costs to consumers and help the state's businesses remain competitive.

Now, all this is not to say California cannot still lead the nation in combating global climate change. But it can do so without needlessly or excessively driving up consumer prices, impairing its economy, or endangering the environment.

Policymakers should focus their efforts on ways to improve California's economy and its environment, including improving the tax treatment of new investment through faster depreciation and investment tax credits, which could reduce growth of greenhouse gas emissions as well as enhance productivity growth. And they should continue to support measures such as the Asia-Pacific Partnership - an agreement with developing countries to promote economic development and the spread of clean, lower-emitting energy technology.

In short, Prop. 23 would effectively (and numerically) reverse AB 32. Economically speaking, that’s a tradeoff that makes sense, and one worth applauding.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab32; ca2010; cainitiatives; capandtrade; globalwarming; prop23
I've sent this to everyone I know in California. Word on Prop 23 is not getting out enough. We have to get this thing passed.
1 posted on 10/22/2010 8:29:16 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

ABSOLUTELY! AB 32 was a sucuide pill. Prop 23 is the only antidote we have.


2 posted on 10/22/2010 8:33:13 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The TOTUS-Reader: omnipotence at home, impotence abroad (Weekly Standard))
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To: freedumb2003
I know that everyone at FR knows that.

I just don't think the average voter has any clue that by not supporting this (Prop23), we will be losing more businesses, paying more for energy, and having a whole new slew of regulations and restrictions on our lives.

Everyone needs to vote YES on Prop 23.

From the Cap Weekly article page, they have an "email this article" link.

I clicked it and then input a long list of email addresses.

3 posted on 10/22/2010 8:38:21 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("In politics the middle way is none at all." -- John Adams)
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To: freedumb2003

I have heard not one ad on the radio let alone on the tv for a YES on this proposition but I have seen the NO vote
ads. The people here in Calif are not paying attention


4 posted on 10/22/2010 9:19:45 PM PDT by funfan
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To: calcowgirl

Bill Gates spent $700K to kill it for his NWO global warming make the US poor mentality.


5 posted on 10/22/2010 9:51:53 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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The initiative process has proven that with millions of dollars, anything can get passed (or not passed) in California.
Combine that with the complete absence of “truth in advertising” for political messages, and you have a breeding ground for fascists.

The campaign is inadequately funded since all the special interests have lined up to keep Arnie’s law.
http://www.yeson23.com/


6 posted on 10/22/2010 10:18:08 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("In politics the middle way is none at all." -- John Adams)
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

7 posted on 10/22/2010 10:24:51 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: calcowgirl
Bill Gates gives $700,000 to defeat Prop 23...
8 posted on 10/23/2010 7:28:15 AM PDT by tubebender
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Ever since the Clintons sued MacroSoft as an alleged monopoly, Gates has been one of the biggest liberal freaks on the planet. I bet he has tons of money invested in the carbon credit scam.

Ironically, the California State Air Resources Board needs to be abolished for the health of California and its residents.

9 posted on 10/23/2010 10:16:54 AM PDT by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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10 posted on 10/23/2010 5:02:16 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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To: calcowgirl
Hmmm..."reverse" 32 with...23. Does that actually work? You just get a prop on the ballot whose number is the number of the one you don't like but backwards, and if it passes, the original one is "reversed"?
11 posted on 10/23/2010 6:37:18 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I know this is off topic, but it’s a 2 minute vid - worth watching.

http://www.libnot.com/2010/10/22/juan-williams-talking-points-memo-to-npr-a-good-one/


12 posted on 10/23/2010 7:34:51 PM PDT by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber /a Tea-nami's coming...)
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