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Wilders not guilty on all counts [Geert Wilders is not guilty of discriminating against Muslims]
dutchnews ^ | Friday 15 October 2010

Posted on 10/15/2010 9:54:59 AM PDT by JoeProBono

The public prosecution department on Friday afternoon stated that Geert Wilders is not guilty of discriminating against Muslims. Earlier on Friday it announced he should also be found not guilty of inciting hatred.

Prosecutors Birgit van Roessel and Paul Velleman reached their conclusions after a careful reading of interviews with and articles by the anti-Islam politician and a viewing of his anti-Koran film Fitna.

They said comments about banning the Koran can be discriminatory, but because Wilders wants to pursue a ban on democratic lines, there is no question of incitement to discrimination 'as laid down in law'.

On the comparison of the Koran with Mein Kampf, the prosecutors said the comparison was 'crude but that did not make it punishable'.

Dealing earlier on Friday with incitement to hatred, Van Roessel and Velleman said some comments could incite hatred against Muslims if taken out of context, but if the complete text is considered, it can be seen that Wilders is against the growing influence of Islam and not against Muslims per sé.

On Tuesday, the prosecutors said the MP should not be found guilty of group insult.

The public prosecution department was forced to take the case by the high court after anti-racism campaigners protested at its refusal to prosecute Wilders.


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1 posted on 10/15/2010 9:55:02 AM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

A glimmer of sanity. Amazing.


2 posted on 10/15/2010 9:56:36 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: JoeProBono

Now watch the Religion of Peace errupt in riots and violence.


3 posted on 10/15/2010 9:57:10 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (RAT Hunting Season started the evening of March 21st, 2010!)
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To: caww

Nice find. Thanks!


4 posted on 10/15/2010 9:58:43 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JoeProBono

So I imagine the “religion of peace” will begin with the rioting, burning and raping any minute now...


5 posted on 10/15/2010 9:58:43 AM PDT by SENTINEL (SGT USMC)
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To: JoeProBono

What’s Dutch for Hooray?!


6 posted on 10/15/2010 10:01:51 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious. " - George Orwell)
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To: JoeProBono

I have watched Gert’s efforts and this trial from the get go...He put his life on the line in a huge way as the Islamists are after him 24/7.

This is great news for freedom of speech to oppose the Islamic threat....except in our country. ;(


7 posted on 10/15/2010 10:02:12 AM PDT by caww
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To: JoeProBono

Credit goes to Free Republic as someone hear linked to Atlas Shugs for another article and there it was also about Gert. Free Rebublic covers the world!


8 posted on 10/15/2010 10:04:37 AM PDT by caww
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To: JoeProBono

There is still the necessity for the judges to agree to drop the charges. Lets hope fear does not prevail


9 posted on 10/15/2010 10:06:14 AM PDT by fml
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To: JoeProBono

How nice of them to find him not guilty of group insult.


10 posted on 10/15/2010 10:07:44 AM PDT by certrtwngnut
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Joy and Whoopi have left the building!


11 posted on 10/15/2010 10:11:00 AM PDT by JaguarXKE (RINOs be gone!)
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To: JoeProBono

That is great news. It’s a travesty that he could be accused for simply speaking the truth in the first place. A glimpse as to what conservatives face if the left remains in charge much longer in the US.


12 posted on 10/15/2010 10:13:03 AM PDT by meyer (Tax the productive to carry the freeloaders - What is it with democrats and slavery?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Excelsior!


13 posted on 10/15/2010 10:14:37 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JoeProBono

Charged with “discrimination”...

as in, “filtering based on value or preference”.

I guess I “discriminate” when I allow pets and children in my house but not vermin.


14 posted on 10/15/2010 10:15:41 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: caww
Geert Wilders - "Fitna" Complete Jihad Movie English

15 posted on 10/15/2010 10:18:01 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JoeProBono
For any of you who want to send him a note of congratulations...http://www.geertwilders.nl/
16 posted on 10/15/2010 10:20:20 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: JoeProBono

Yes, I saw that...amazing truth in a very acceptable way of revealing Islam for what it is. This was actually played in Britains Parliment....but not without a fight to get it there.

His story is amazing and he is worth following for his stand against Islam. Strong individual to be sure.

Thanks for posting ‘Fitna’ link for those who have not seen...worth the view and just one of the reasons Gert was sued by the Moslems.


17 posted on 10/15/2010 10:23:33 AM PDT by caww
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Thanks DarkSkies...I e-mailed Gert congradulations. Awesome victory and hopefully no loose ends when all is said and done.


18 posted on 10/15/2010 10:31:54 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Yur welcome!

I just emailed him too!

19 posted on 10/15/2010 10:34:03 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

“Fitna” is a true depiction of islam...there is a warning though as it shows scenes from 9/11 right from the beginning then other “hits”...as well as a beheading...but they block out the actual act just as it happens...

I know people might have weak stomacks for this..I thought I would but I needed to see the reality of Islam....and this film does it as tastefully as one could present a death cult.


20 posted on 10/15/2010 10:46:43 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Yep! Have watched it multiple times.

As an aside, I wonder what Imam Obama thinks about today's development in Geert's trial? Depressing way to start a weekend...if you're a muslim.;-)

21 posted on 10/15/2010 10:50:37 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Aside from him politicking he can’t say much now....but I hope he and his other half continue to make the blunders they are...eyes are opened now and people are listening and continue not to like what they are hearing. He won’t say a word about Gerts Victory...likely nations with too many Moselms won’t make too much fuss...retaliation issues.


22 posted on 10/15/2010 11:08:10 AM PDT by caww
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To: JaguarXKE

ROFL!!


23 posted on 10/15/2010 11:15:04 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (The Professional Left: Using Your Money to Promote Their Ideology Since the 1930's)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
the MP should not be found guilty of group insult.

Group insult???

24 posted on 10/15/2010 11:21:46 AM PDT by stevem
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To: JoeProBono

Just wow.


25 posted on 10/15/2010 11:23:41 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: JoeProBono
I am not sure I fully follow the Dutch legal system. Has the high court found him not guilty or is this only the recommendation of the prosecutors?
26 posted on 10/15/2010 11:30:24 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: JoeProBono
I am not sure I fully follow the Dutch legal system. Has the high court found him not guilty or is this only the recommendation of the prosecutors?
27 posted on 10/15/2010 11:30:31 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: stevem
Group insult???

It means whatever we want it to mean.

You got a problem with that?

28 posted on 10/15/2010 11:34:28 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: Truth29

Dutch prosecutors seek acquittal of anti-Islam pol

AMSTERDAM — Dutch prosecutors asked judges Friday to acquit anti-Islam politician Geert Wilders on all charges of inciting hate and discrimination against Muslims, in a case seen as testing the limits of free speech versus religious freedom.

The move by prosecutors signaled their belief the case against Wilders was weak, although judges could still disagree and convict him. The defense begins its case next week and a verdict is scheduled for next month.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/15/AR2010101502769.html


29 posted on 10/15/2010 11:39:06 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: stevem
Group insult???

Seems odd that it could really be a crime, doesn't it?

That's what happens when there's no constitution, or there is one without our first amendment. It's good to sit back every now and then and thank God that our founding fathers were the men they were, and left us with such a remarkable document.

30 posted on 10/15/2010 11:42:39 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: JoeProBono

EXCELLENT! MOST EXCELLENT INDEED!


31 posted on 10/15/2010 11:47:38 AM PDT by Mean Maryjean
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To: Ramius
That's what happens when there's no constitution, or there is one without our first amendment. It's good to sit back every now and then and thank God that our founding fathers were the men they were, and left us with such a remarkable document.

Huh? What? The United States has all of the anti-discrimination, free speech stifling laws that the Netherlands has. It's unlikely you'll do jail time for violating, but you can have your business or property seized from you and be fined and sued into penury though. Some difference.

32 posted on 10/15/2010 11:57:38 AM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: JoeProBono

he is however, guilty of a really bad hairdo.


33 posted on 10/15/2010 12:00:50 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: JoeProBono
JUICHT TOE!

(

I'm told that's "SHOUTING FOR JOY!"

34 posted on 10/15/2010 12:05:08 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious. " - George Orwell)
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To: SENTINEL

Amsterdam should probably loose the bomb-sniffing dogs sooner rather than later.

Seriously, they should realize they are about to become a major target, all of which is their own doing. Once again we see these vile muzzies utilizing a western country’s laws against that country to further its control and ‘mastering’ of that country and her people. I’ll add that the foolhardiness of even having ‘hate speech’ laws invites these scenarios. Stupid, stupid, stupid.


35 posted on 10/15/2010 12:15:22 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: chilltherats

If you think things are any better here then you are wrong. We have a muslim in the white hut.

We have no Geert Wilders just idiots who watch TV that keeps the muslim in power.


36 posted on 10/15/2010 1:05:20 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Frantzie

We don’t have nearly as a high a percentage of ragheads as western Europe has.

We have a lot of people speaking against Islamic authority and infiltration.

Why do you say that watching tv keeps zero in power? Doesn’t it depend on what you watch? :)


37 posted on 10/15/2010 1:12:38 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: JoeProBono

Well I’ll be dam they finally got something right!


38 posted on 10/15/2010 1:22:07 PM PDT by diji (IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !)
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To: chilltherats

“Doesn’t it depend on what you watch? :)”

Saudi Arabai’s Prince Al Waleed - Saudi kings nephew who handles the Kingdom’s investments is largest investor in News Corp/Fox News - ditto Disney/ABC, ditto TW/CNN ditto a major holder na ddeal maker with GE-NBC, CNBC, MSNBC. Ditto he helped Sumner Redstone CBS/Viacom invest in Kirch in germany ditto Bloomberg who approved the Mosque for 9/11 to insure he had access to islamic TV and financial markets.

American TV is control by leftist elites and Saudis. Your cable bill is sliced up so each network gets about $5 to 6 a month even though you don’t watch them.

It keeps Obama and Islam in power in America. Keep it up folks.


39 posted on 10/15/2010 1:39:11 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: JoeProBono

right wing hardcore strongman fascist mussoliniu brownshirt racist


40 posted on 10/15/2010 1:48:31 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: JoeProBono

Hallelujah!


41 posted on 10/15/2010 2:15:34 PM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

42 posted on 10/15/2010 2:20:08 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: jackv

43 posted on 10/15/2010 2:21:53 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: knighthawk

Are the Christian Democrats still preparing to go into coalition with Wilders party?


44 posted on 10/15/2010 2:24:07 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: ichabod1

45 posted on 10/15/2010 2:24:28 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JaguarXKE

ROFLMAO


46 posted on 10/15/2010 2:30:06 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: JoeProBono

The Mooselimbs will be fired up tonight.


47 posted on 10/15/2010 3:23:15 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2
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To: Georgia Girl 2

True. Someone is going to lose their head over this.


48 posted on 10/15/2010 3:27:35 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Sometimes the road less traveled.... is less traveled for a reason.)
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To: JoeProBono

Truth to power. God bless you, Geert. You’re single-handedly defending Western Civilization with the tools that only exist in Western Civilization. You’re a brave, brave man.


49 posted on 10/15/2010 4:05:55 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: JoeProBono; AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...

Thanks JoeProBono.

When Geert and the political party he leads finally takes control of the government of the Netherlands, it’s going to be the next glimmer of hope for Europe.


50 posted on 10/15/2010 5:31:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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