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A Fabian Socialist Dream Come True
THE MILITANT JEFFERSONIAN ^ | Monday, August 4, 2008 | columnist: Republicae

Posted on 10/06/2010 11:37:33 PM PDT by restornu


COLLECTIVISM

The Fabian Society began in England in 1887 by a very small group of elitist socialist that sought to reform society gradually into one of socialism instead of through violent revolution. At first their purpose was to be an alternative in Britain for the more dominate Marxist Social-Democratic Federation, but their true goal was to accomplish socialism through a very gradual process using the voting booth and representative democracy as their instrument of change. In fact, one of their symbols is a Turtle with the motto: "When I Strike, I Strike Hard". Another symbol is the Wolf in Sheep's Clothing and the Globe on an Anvil being hammered into the Fabian model.

The Fabian Plan for gradual Socialist Revolution was as definitive as it possibly could be, to say it has been a conspiracy is simplistic in the extreme. It instituted a widespread educational program for its leadership and its minions, as time progressed, it opened schools, such as the London School of Economics, and the New School of Social Research.

One stroke of genius was that instead of advocating a Socialist State, they assisted in the implementation of the Welfare State, which as we should all know is merely a few steps away from a purely Socialistic State. It was, of course, implemented gradually, and played upon the weaknesses of human nature to gain popularity. Unlike the usual Socialist points of views, the Fabians didn't advocate complete State ownership of businesses, industry, agriculture or land, instead they sought to involve the State into very specific areas of importance such as electric power production, transportation, precious metals and of course, credit. The remaining balance of economic systems would be left to the private sector however; it would be highly regulated by the State and operated according to the wishes of the State.

If you look at Britain, you will see that they accomplished their goals with ease and while American has been more difficult, the goals are the same and they have made enormous advances toward those goals, as we all know. Much of their accomplishments have been realized without using that dreaded word: Socialism. They have brought the Fabian Dream to America through an extremely brilliant system that has been openly accepted by the voters of this country without the hint of suspicion on their part that they were voting a Socialistic system into place.

Now, make no mistake about it, Fabian Socialists are Statist, they are absolutely authoritarian in their philosophy. Their long-term goal has always been a Socialistic Dictatorship with full-imposition of a very legalistic society where the individual is simply a part of the collective. An example of this can be found in the writings of one of the founders of the Fabian Society, George Bernard Shaw speaking of the Socialist Utopia, he said: "Under Socialism, you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not the character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner; but whilst you were permitted to live, you would have to live well."

Of course, all of this would be in the best interest of society as a whole and the whole made up simply of parts, individuals merely cogs in the machine of social justice. This idea of social justice is the biggest selling point and perhaps the easiest to peddle to the people. Programs of social reform, incremental at first, allowed for the tempering of the people; allowing for them to grow accustom to the intervention of the State in the affairs of the individual. Of course, such reforms are never an end unto themselves only stepping-stones to a greater Socialist construct of society.

Regarding the great strides made toward these goals, Max Beer stated with confidence: "There was no reason for Socialists to wait for revolution. The realization of socialism had begun the moment when the State became accessible to social reform ideas." Indeed, the revolution was already half realized at the moment when the State stepped over the threshold of progressive social construction and intervention into the private lives of the people.

The first step in any Socialist plan is the reform of capitalism, when the capitalist system is sufficiently neutralized the rest comes relatively easy. The first step to an efficient plan of capitalist neutralization is control over the money supply and for that a central bank is required along with a fiat monetary system, in this country that was initiated with the advent of the Federal Reserve. Later, of course must come effective controls over major infrastructure and services, all accomplished through the New Deal. The New Deal accomplished substantial feats toward the Fabian Socialist construct with numerous price controls, quotas, subsidies, inspections, regulations, licenses, fees, penalties and massive government interventions into what was formerly private enterprise. Although you would never hear politicians of either political party to admit to support the ideals of socialism, they nevertheless not only support such measures, but also promote them.

We have recently seen a greater push toward socialism, though few realize it. The government is assuming more and more responsibility for and authority over the economy, all under the guise of protecting the people from potentially unscrupulous free marketeers. We are being moved yet another step closer to the dream-society of the Fabians. Of course, these are simply steps, essential parts to a much broader agenda, one that is authoritarian in nature and execution, even the centrally planned economy is a mere step, not the end product. It is all carefully crafted, manufactured to ensure the most popular support possible for "people-friendly" solutions while instituting a fraudulent system of central control over the unsuspecting public. The system has been marketed to the public, one specific component at a time, each component essential to the completion of the whole and that is the brilliance of this gradual imposition of Fabian Socialism in this country.

The greatest bulwark against tyranny in America has always been the system of private ownership and free enterprise, it is the cornerstone of our system of government and without it our freedoms and liberty are in jeopardy. Central economic planning is, in a very basic sense, the keystone to Fabian Socialism, for in order for it to succeed, central State planning and control must replace the system of free enterprise. While it was not necessary for the State to actually own or directly control all the elements in the economy it is enough for the State to have the right to assert itself in any area that it deems necessary. The Fabians called it "the democratization of economic power", in other words socialized and centralized control over economic direction within the country.

In 1942, Stuart Chase, in his book "The Road We Are Traveling" spelled out the system of planning the Fabians had in mind; the interesting thing is to look at that plan in comparison to 2008 America.

1. Strong, centralized government.

2. Powerful Executive at the expense of Congress and the Judicial.

3. Government controlled banking, credit and securities exchange.

4. Government control over employment.

5. Unemployment insurance, old age pensions.

6. Universal medical care, food and housing programs.

7. Access to unlimited government borrowing.

8. A managed monetary system.

9. Government control over foreign trade.

10. Government control over natural energy sources, transportation and agricultural production.

11. Government regulation of labor.

12. Youth camps devoted to health discipline, community service and ideological teaching consistent with those of the authorities.

13. Heavy progressive taxation.

It should be evident that while Socialist no longer use the name that the plan is Socialism at its heart. The Fabian Socialist Revolution began in earnest in this country in 1933 with the imposition of the Welfare State and has been steadily progressing since. Those who are promoting this system, whether in the Republican Party or Democratic Party, are nothing less than Traitors, guilty of a type of high treason that deserves the most punitive penalty for such treachery. Listen carefully to the propositions of both McCain and Obama; I suspect that you will quickly find both of their positions are not only similar, but propose in essence and detail the Fabian Socialist construct. The system that these marauders are imposing upon us will ultimately alter our system of government beyond recognition.

It is all accomplished with the utmost respectability of course, they would not dream of such an imposition without popular support and they will make sure that they have popular support.

In 1933, they proposed that private enterprise had failed leaving the jobless to starve, hope to fade and that the State must step in to save the country and protect the people from the dangers associated with the inherent problems of free enterprise. Today, the call is very similar, the State must step in to protect the people. The Corporate State is, in the minds of Fabians, the ultimate protector of the common man, the provider of security on all fronts, but it requires our complete compliance and the relinquishment of our liberty in exchange. The State is to ultimately be the only one allowed wealth, the problem is that wealth is the people's wealth confiscated in exchange for their hard labor. It is, in essence, a plan for a modern feudal society of peonage and the people are the peons.

Proofs of a Conspiracy? Look around...

In Liberty and Eternal Vigilance,

Republicae-Seditionist


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1 posted on 10/06/2010 11:37:35 PM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu

bfl


2 posted on 10/06/2010 11:54:13 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Live Free or Die)
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To: restornu
The Fabian Society began in England in 1887 ...

Just watched Glenn Beck.
He says .. 1884.

3 posted on 10/07/2010 12:23:02 AM PDT by plinyelder ("I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: plinyelder

Socialism-Liberalism-Communism is like a Flue-Virus. Invariably some politician thinks he has come up with a better strain or version which will not kill the host. But eventually they all will destroy the recipient.


4 posted on 10/07/2010 12:58:41 AM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: plinyelder
Well, whatever year it started, THANK GOD FOR GLENN BECK! These are subjects I have been preaching on for decades and nobody took it seriously. There is still only one voice in the wilderness called "TV" that dares to utter the truth that is right there in front of everyone. These are subjects that you would at least think Rush or Hanity could speak about on radio, but I have heard very little over the years.

Glenn Beck is the most important show on TV in 50 years, IMHO.

5 posted on 10/07/2010 1:28:58 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

Other than not questioning his right to be POTUS, (Obama) .. Beck is Great!

Learned from him tonight .. Two things that I never knew .. Bernard Shaw was the person who came up with the ovens/gas chambers and that HG Wells was a Fabian/Communist/Socialist!

Who Knew?


6 posted on 10/07/2010 1:34:21 AM PDT by plinyelder ("I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: chuckles

“Glenn Beck is the most important show on TV in 50 years, IMHO”.

...absolutely. The “Glenn Beck Show” should required viewing for high schoolers.


7 posted on 10/07/2010 1:39:32 AM PDT by albie
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To: chuckles

I’m with you. Fabian Socialism has been a ignored subject by the great talkers. Glenn Beck has opened up the subject with great precision. The Democrats think they will get unlimited power with their use of the Fabian Socialist model of political control. Once the truth of them becomes taken up in the political rhetoric, the Democrats will be political toast for decades. That also goes for the RINO class of politician.


8 posted on 10/07/2010 2:05:53 AM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: chuckles

I love his show. It’s like a classroom, with all the chalkboards and visual aids, except it’s interesting.


9 posted on 10/07/2010 2:39:53 AM PDT by Cymbaline ("Allahu Akbar": Arabic for "Nothing To See Here" - Mark Steyn)
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To: plinyelder

“Who Knew?”

Did he say anything about the Tavistock Institute and the Royal Institute for International Affairs? RIIA was talking about using climate change fear to control the masses back at the end of WWII.


10 posted on 10/07/2010 4:00:24 AM PDT by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: chuckles
Glenn Beck is the most important show on TV in 50 years, IMHO.

I agree fully.

11 posted on 10/07/2010 4:12:29 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: chuckles
“Glenn Beck is the most important show on TV in 50 years, IMHO.”

I, like you, have been trying to educate people about the New World Order/Globalist scheme for 40 years (since college). My strong views have often cost me friends or family. Being labeled as a “conspiracy nut”, “whack-job’, “there's something wrong with that guy” etc is not an easy path to follow. I'm sure you've been called the same, if not worse.

After watching Glenn's show yesterday, I told Mrs. panax that I think he was one of the most important and influential Americans since our founding fathers. He is a true American Patriot willing to give everything to get the truth out.

He is in the cross hairs of our enemies.

Pray for his safety.

12 posted on 10/07/2010 4:33:37 AM PDT by panaxanax (IMPEACH THE MUSLIM MARXIST....NOW!!!)
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To: restornu
Yes, Fabian Socialism was the root of Progressivism. But what also had its roots in Fabian Socialism?

(Compare the list about to what cam be found in the Fascist Manifesto by Benito Mussolini for your answer)

13 posted on 10/07/2010 4:50:25 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: restornu

sfl


14 posted on 10/07/2010 5:34:25 AM PDT by phockthis
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To: chuckles

I sent Beck an e-mail telling him about my memories of some of the people he talks about. When I was a college student in Arizona either the few months prior to WWII service or at the same college a few years later after service I took an elective course in ‘Contemporary Writings’.I had a Prof. E. who was a recent addition to faculty and rumored to be a socialist if not communist. Our assignments included writings of Lippman, Hitler, Mussolini and of Beck’s special interest Stuart Chase. I can’t recall all of writers assigned to be read. My most memorable thing about the class was the final exam. There was a question like ‘ What is your definition/understanding of propaganda?’ My answer was that propaganda was the use of words/writings to influence people’s thoughts and actions just like the writings we have been assigned to read. I don’t recall Prof. E. showing much reaction but he gave me an A for the course. Thought this was pretty good for an engineering student


15 posted on 10/07/2010 5:35:56 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: restornu

If the Fabians scare you, look up Antonio Gramsci or the Frankfurt School.


16 posted on 10/07/2010 5:52:54 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: plinyelder
....."Other than not questioning his right to be POTUS, (Obama) .. Beck is Great!".....

I don't agree with anybody on everything, but Beck is so far from the others its scary. At one point I thought he was going to go into his Mormonism, which would have destroyed his show, but he held back. He, like BOR and Hanity, and ( actually to my surprise) Gretta has avoided speaking on a legal issue. I figured at least one of them would tackle the subject, but you can tell by their revulsion that they are terrified of being labeled a kook. All have avoided the "birther" thing, which for me shows something is wrong. We should be able to at least discuss some subjects, whether we believe or not. I'm sure that I have found disagreement with something else, I just can't seem to come up with it right now.

If you delve into these weighty issues day after day, you are bound to mess up somewhere and the vultures are waiting to pounce. I will give him some leeway as long as he doesn't back off. I give Glenn a 9.9 out of 10 right now which is way high on my scale. BOR gets about a 6, which is little better than watching the Simpsons for me. When he talks about his understanding of the Bible, I have to mute it. Poor Hanity is just stuck on "one note", so I can usually take a shower or go eat during his segment and not miss anything he has said all week. I think I know about Bill Ayres and Rev. Wright by now.

You couldn't pay for the history lesson we are getting from Beck right now. I'm 59 and learned much of this when I was in grade school. It was available back then because we were still looking for the "commies" under each desk. That is why I lurk here at FR. How many blogs know about Fabians, or call NAZI's "socialists", or knew Alger Hiss was a commie that started the UN? Just try to post that Hitler was a leftie somewhere else and see what happens to you. I have tried to explain to people that Hitler took over the banks, manufacturing, and basically ran everything, just like Obama, and you are dismissed as a kook. Then I ask them what the letters in N-A-Z-I stand for and I get silence. When I tell them it's the Worker Socialist Party, they won't even answer back. The Jews ran to Russia to hide from Hitler and the Commies sent them back. They were working together for most of the war until Hitler started the "Eastern Front". People only seem to remember the part where Hitler and Stalin were fighting, not the other stuff.

IMHO, this is why we have so many socialists today. They can't know what it means to wear a "Che" t-shirt, or love the UN, or even what "taxing the rich" has gotten others in history. How can their be so many Democrats if they are for burning the flag, destroying Christianity, disarming the people, raising taxes, expanding the welfare state, LOSING EVERY WAR WE GET IN TO, ect? Just try telling people that Lincoln was a Republican, the KKK was Democrat, the "Solid South" meant DEMOCRAT, the governors that stood in the school doorways were which party?. Was Ike a Republican or a Dem when he sent the troops down to open the schools. I'm old enough to remember much of this. We had "colored" drinking fountains when I was growing up and I remember them. They were all Democrats in the South. Young people have no clue about history and regard it as unimportant. I guess that is why we repeat it so often. We keep wondering how cultures could spiral down to the point of shooting people in ditches and putting them in ovens and then we start doing it again and again. Just in my lifetime it has happened 10 or more times. Iraq ( Saddam) was just the latest of many. It has happened multiple times in Africa. South America, and Central America. If you look at a map today, Latin America is going commie again. It hasn't worked in the last 100 years, so lets try it again. All we need to do is shoot a few more thousand people. ( and take their money, of course)

17 posted on 10/07/2010 7:51:21 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

THANK GOD FOR GLENN BECK! These are subjects I have been preaching on for decades and nobody took it seriously.

Nice to meet you so have I for years I comb the used book stores in NYC and gather so many treasures.

Even today Beck spells it out for them and it many still don’t care but a day will come when Johnny come lately get a taste for real what he ignored.

Trouble is the rest of us will have to endure with these boobs!


18 posted on 10/07/2010 8:38:59 PM PDT by restornu (Trust but verify)
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To: chuckles

Secret Societies and Subversive Movements - Google Books Result
Nesta H. Webster - 2000 - Political Science - 436 pages
12 SECRET SOCIETIES IN ENGLAND WE have seen that from the Illuminati onwards subversive societies have always sought recruits amongst orthodox Freemasons. ...

http://tinyurl.com/2a3c4lt


19 posted on 10/07/2010 8:53:16 PM PDT by restornu (Trust but verify)
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To: restornu
I've got a book I bet you haven't seen. It's title is called “Smoke Screen” by Samuel B. Pettengill. He was a Democrat congressman during the FDR years. He compared FDR's policies with Hitler's. It was a real eye opener to see a Democrat write about FDR before the War. (copyright 1940). He covered the Depression era policies and the stacking of the SCOTUS and he wasn't happy with his own party. With the Dems worshiping FDR, this is probably the most valuable book I have. I love to read it to Dems that think FDR was an angel dropped into hell to sprinkle pixie dust on a hungry America. This guy gives facts and figures of how FDR made things worse and prolonged the Depression and mirrored Fascism that was rampant in Europe.

I've tried to email Glenn Becks show several times with an Amazon URL to get the book, but I think I may be on ignore at Fox News. I've sent them email after email with no result. I sent the video of Obama's office in Houston with "Che" pics on the wall and they( Beck, BOR, Hanity, Greta, Neal, etc), refused to show them. I bet I've sent 100 emails with URL's to show how Frank Raines was the cause of the Fannie collapse and video of the congressmen that covered it up.

If you are interested in "Smoke Screen", look it up on Amazon or Ebay and you can still find a copy for about $10. Mine is in decent shape and you should be able to find one that won't disintegrate when you turn a page. With Beck hawking books on air, I can't believe he wouldn't want this book.

20 posted on 10/08/2010 7:06:14 AM PDT by chuckles
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