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Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs: Proceed with Caution (Think Twice before Discarding Incandescent)
American Thinker ^ | 09/22/2010 | Peter Wilson

Posted on 09/22/2010 6:52:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Da Coyote

Or, “There is no problem so great, that government cannot make ever worse.”


61 posted on 09/22/2010 7:56:27 AM PDT by dfwgator (Rangers Magic Number - 6)
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To: trolley

Committing to a technology that seems likely to be a temporary bridge isn’t really a good idea in the long run.

oh, you mean like ethanol?

I did a term paper in college in the 70s on gasohol. I wish I could find it to be sure, but I remember it received tax breaks as a new technology to help determine its viability in action and economically. All of the problems which needed to be overcome then...less efficient, engine etching, costs more to produce, negative return on energy used to create final product, etc, etc...still needed to be overcome 30 years later when the gubmint mandated its use!

Of course, since then, with the uptick of ethanol plants in rural areas, small communities are now seeing a reduction in clean water availability becase so much is used in ethanol production.

And it still won’t make a dent in our overall use of gasoline.


62 posted on 09/22/2010 7:57:08 AM PDT by gnickgnack2 (QUESTION obama's AUTHORITY)
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To: IYAS9YAS
I mix my use of CFL and incandescents

Well, that's exactly the point of conservatives who want government to butt out of our lives.

Whether CFL or incandescents should be used is NONE OF THEIR DARN BUSINESS AND THEY SHOULD NOT EVEN PASS A LAW *REQUIRING* PEOPLE TO CHANGE.

If I believe CFL are better, I'll buy them, if not, I'll buy incandescents.

The important thing is this --- I DECIDE WHAT I DO WITH MY LIFE AND MY DAM MONEY.

The free market will eventually determine which product will survive and which ones won't.

We don't need government to tell us that.
63 posted on 09/22/2010 7:59:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: MrB

Last year in Minnesota, someone broke one mercury thermometer while carrying it between classrooms. The entire district was shut down for days because someone was afrain the mercury would be carried on shoes via the busses to other schools!!!!!!


64 posted on 09/22/2010 8:00:34 AM PDT by gnickgnack2 (QUESTION obama's AUTHORITY)
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To: 1951Boomer
How long will it be when someone gets a few laughs by smashing a bunch of them and then calling the HAZMAT folks?

We've had florescent bulbs with mercury for decades. Nothing. new.

65 posted on 09/22/2010 8:00:40 AM PDT by SeeSac
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To: SeekAndFind
I love CFLs - I have a suspicion (from all the criticism of CFLs on these boards) that we get superior brands here in the UK.

Nevertheless, any law that bans incandescents is criminally wrong. We should be free to choose how we light our own damn houses!

66 posted on 09/22/2010 8:01:04 AM PDT by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: yesca
"Hot water is free during the heating season, it merely adds to the BTU load of the house."

Not entirely if it goes down the drain while still hot. But you are quite correct if it is allowed to cool to room temperature.

67 posted on 09/22/2010 8:02:48 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: dblshot

Is there some safety reason we can’t just smear some slippery Dial liquid soap around the threads of a lightbulb to make them easy to install? I’ve been doing that for years. Now you’ll probably tell me I’ll burn my house down by doing that or sumpthin’?


68 posted on 09/22/2010 8:03:04 AM PDT by battletank
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To: SeekAndFind

How many congress=critters does it take to screw up a light bulb?


69 posted on 09/22/2010 8:03:47 AM PDT by tired1 (When the Devil eats you there's only one way out.)
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To: bboop

In check out lines they ask me “paper or plastic?”

I always say “Plastic - it burns better”

You wouldn’t beleive the nasty looks. Well, maybe you would.


70 posted on 09/22/2010 8:07:42 AM PDT by tired1 (When the Devil eats you there's only one way out.)
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To: Mr. K

That won’t happen because they aren’t any good and will never really catch on. I have to say that I’ve gotten used to them in my living room, and no longer feel like I’m in a supermarket at 3:00 in the morning, but they are still way too blue. Soon I’m going to put happy yellow incandescents back in my living room. The CFLs? Smash-in-the-Trash. Or maybe I’ll break them and get the mercury out and play with it like I did when I was a kid.


71 posted on 09/22/2010 8:07:42 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: Fresh Wind

DAMMIT. That’s probably why my bluetooth mouse has not been working that well at home. May also be why I’ve been having lots of headaches. Could be why I’m having seasonal affective disorder-like symptoms too. Gotta get rid of them in the living room, today.


72 posted on 09/22/2010 8:09:39 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: battletank

I’ts not the installing that is the problem, it’s getting them out later when the blulb has rusted to the socket.


73 posted on 09/22/2010 8:09:44 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity - electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: agere_contra

You bring up an excellent point. All CFLs are not created equal. Some work much better than others and have fewer of the problems some have noted on this thread.

But I have yet to see any consumer group rate the CFLs by brand. The unexamined assumption seems to be that a CFL is a CFL is a CFL.

This brings up an important issue with regard to environmentalism. It makes it impossible for people to think clearly.

15 years ago I was teaching a class and we got to talking about some of the new more energy efficient building methods and appliances. I pointed out there might be some negative side-effects. Students became enraged. One girl cried. I was anti-environment!

Needless to say, all the possible drawbacks I mentioned have since turned up, along with a good few I didn’t think of.


74 posted on 09/22/2010 8:09:51 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: LoneStarGI

Tried to buy some Bulb EZ on line, shipping is three times the cost. LEDs sound safer than CFLs by a long shot. I am going to replace a couple of ceiling lights with recessed lighing and they make LED floods for this. Think I’ll give tham a try.


75 posted on 09/22/2010 8:12:35 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity - electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: SeekAndFind
We don't need government to tell us that.

Yup. Agreed. I'm still concerned about the mercury in them, and will replace them with LCDs as they become more available and come down in price - which really shouldn't be too long. One thing I've noticed recently - the Walmart near me has been steadily increasing the price on incandescents to the point where buying the equivalent CFL is now comparable or even cheaper.

76 posted on 09/22/2010 8:13:15 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: tired1
I always say “Plastic - it burns better”

Even more fun is "they flush better".

77 posted on 09/22/2010 8:14:45 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: dblshot
Tried to buy some Bulb EZ on line

Sounds like a spendy version of anti-sieze compound (prevents disimilar metals from forming a bond) - go to an auto parts store and get it. The stuff made to work on exhausts or spark plugs will handle any heat made by the bulb.

78 posted on 09/22/2010 8:20:40 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Whoops, LCDs should have been LEDs.


79 posted on 09/22/2010 8:21:45 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: Mr. K
...how long before we hear the stories of those EVIIIIIIIIL corporations trying to poison us with mercury?

Ummmm, these screwy light bulbs are a LIBERAL project. The MSM will watch their own children die of mercury poisoning before they'd do a feature on it...

80 posted on 09/22/2010 8:21:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2589165/posts)
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