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Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs: Proceed with Caution (Think Twice before Discarding Incandescent)
American Thinker ^ | 09/22/2010 | Peter Wilson

Posted on 09/22/2010 6:52:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: dblshot

You will pay a ‘big price’ for an LED bulb right now, mostly because they are not as readily available. A ‘60 watt equivalent LED’ could run you between 30-60 dollars depending on their style. However, the benefits are huge. The bulbs don’t need warm-up periods, come in both ‘indoor white’ (ie. yellowish light similar to incandescent) or ‘outdoor white’ (bright vivid white light which is good for outdoor lighting), don’t get hot (you can handle them even after hours of continuous use), and have a lifespan of up to 60,000 use hours. Just make sure to check for the bulb’s ‘wattage equivalence’, ie. make sure the bulb generates light similar to a 60 watt, don’t ‘assume’ all the bulbs will.


41 posted on 09/22/2010 7:21:13 AM PDT by LoneStarGI (Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "BAD HUNTER.")
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To: muawiyah

The human body is too


42 posted on 09/22/2010 7:21:24 AM PDT by dila813
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To: muawiyah

“There are no other meaningful points to be made. If you want to keep futzing around with incandescents, go to it. I don’t care.”

Well, forgive me for being late to the party, woefully uninformed, and “unenlightened.” Mercy me, I’ve never seen a forum about this topic and did not know it was being overdiscussed. My issue is not so much all the technicalities and old arguments (and my ignorance of them), but the PRINCIPLE of the thing. Yeah, the incandescent is going the way of the horse and buggy, but some of us LIKE their streamlined shape and aura. At the very least, I should hang onto one. Might be a valuable antique someday.


43 posted on 09/22/2010 7:22:21 AM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: bboop
Just in spite. It’s my own little one-person Tea Party, every day in every way.

For every force, there is an equal and opposite force. The more the left pushes, the more the American people start to rebel. The TEA party is just the beginning. It's just getting started. Once the American people get past the lefts propaganda, they'll understand what the TEA party is all about and will accept it with open arms.
NO ONE wants to be enslaved by the government, and people are starting to notice (finally) that their freedoms have been slowly disappearing, and more of them are being taken away by the day.

44 posted on 09/22/2010 7:22:25 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: SeekAndFind
What are the chances of this regulation being trash-canned in the next (hopefully Republican) Congress?

Leni

45 posted on 09/22/2010 7:23:49 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Are any Americans better off than they were 4 trillion dollars ago?)
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To: 1951Boomer

Same here, my husband threw out the nasty curly bulbs and we buy up as many incandescent bulbs we can find.


46 posted on 09/22/2010 7:25:10 AM PDT by dforest
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To: MrB
WHEN are they gonna phase out this 5-watt bulb?


47 posted on 09/22/2010 7:26:41 AM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: hal ogen
Time to stock-up on incandescents!

Better hurry. I'm hoarding them and have been for a couple of years now. I've got a couple of cases on the shelf now. There are some uses, like providing heat in my well house during winter, or spot heat when I'm doing a composite repair, that I cannot get from a florescent. I buy three or four packs of 100w bulbs every time I go to Lowe's or Home Depot. I've noticed that the amount of incandescent bulbs on the shelf in the stores has diminished considerably over the past few months.

48 posted on 09/22/2010 7:26:59 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: Ev Reeman

Yep, I buy a whole case everytime I go to Home Depot or Lowes. Have them stored in my attic. I hope they age well in storage.


49 posted on 09/22/2010 7:28:37 AM PDT by CobraJet
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve been buying incandescents at the rate of 1-2 boxes every shopping trip since the ban was announced, they tend to be dirt cheap these days. In the back of my garage, I now have over 200 boxes with 4 bulbs each. I figure I can double that by the time the ban goes into effect in 2012. That will easily give me enough for the rest of my life and in a few years after the ban goes into effect, I can probably make a fortune selling the extra.


50 posted on 09/22/2010 7:29:18 AM PDT by apillar
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To: 1951Boomer
For every “problem” these Einsteins “solve,” they create fifty more.

BEHOLD! The law of unintended consequences!

51 posted on 09/22/2010 7:29:45 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: apillar

RE: I can probably make a fortune selling the extra.


You’re expecting a lot of people to break the law then ?

Why not simply lobby to repeal this stupid law?


52 posted on 09/22/2010 7:31:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: LoneStarGI
I am not an early adopter of new tech, but hopefully this option will come available before I run out of my case of incandescent bulbs. If I had a bulb up on a 20 foot ceiling though I think for the reduced number of trips up there it would be a good investment. You seem knowledgeable about light bulbs so I ask a weird question. I have had several bulbs break or get rusted into the fixture which is a bear getting them out. Is there a lubricant with electrical properties that is used on light bulbs? Something like the auto bulb lubricant which while good for 12 volt might catch fire at 110 volt and higher temp. Guess I should goggle that myself and report back.
53 posted on 09/22/2010 7:31:20 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity - electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: Sherman Logan
"Most comparisons of efficiency ignore both of these rather important factors."

Thank you for bring up an important concept.

One winter day I was washing dishes when an over-edjumacated pal sidled up to me and chastised me for using so much hot water.

I said, "Hot water is free during the heating season, it merely adds to the BTU load of the house."

We have gas hot water heater & gas house unit.

The hot water heater is a glassed lined sears unit made in the previous century.

It takes it's combustion air from the floor of the cellar, which is air you want to get rid of anyway.

Many comment how clean and dry our cellar is, I point to the antique cellar cleaner/hot water heater.

54 posted on 09/22/2010 7:33:29 AM PDT by yesca (..belief is the enemy)
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To: LoneStarGI
I am not an early adopter of new tech, but hopefully this option will come available before I run out of my case of incandescent bulbs. If I had a bulb up on a 20 foot ceiling though I think for the reduced number of trips up there it would be a good investment. You seem knowledgeable about light bulbs so I ask a weird question. I have had several bulbs break or get rusted into the fixture which is a bear getting them out. Is there a lubricant with electrical properties that is used on light bulbs? Something like the auto bulb lubricant which while good for 12 volt might catch fire at 110 volt and higher temp. Guess I should goggle that myself and report back. Well what do you know, there is. Called BulbEZ snd I'm getting some. Selected as one of the top 25 products of the year by the Electrical Contracting and Engineering News! BULB EZ is a silky, lightweight, non-toxic lubricant that ensures smooth installation and removal of light bulbs and lamps. Controls cross-threading and helps prevent bulbs and lamps from freezing in their sockets, reducing breakage. Works on any type of bulb and installation. Especially good for bath or outdoor lights. •For smooth installation of bulbs and lamps. •Helps reduce breakage. •Controlls cross-threading. •Works on any type bulb. •Non-toxic lubricant. •1 ounce container size.
55 posted on 09/22/2010 7:33:44 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity - electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: SeekAndFind
RE: I can probably make a fortune selling the extra.

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You’re expecting a lot of people to break the law then ?

Well, its my understanding they aren't banning the sale or use of existing bulbs after 2015, just the production, similar to the large capacity magazines under the assault weapons ban. But even if I'm wrong and they are banning the sale, the answer is yes, I would expect a large amount of people to break the law, heck just look at how many people are involved in the drug trade and that's substantially more "illegal" than selling illicit lightbulbs would be.

Why not simply lobby to repeal this stupid law?

I plan to do both. I would prefer to see the law repealed even if it would mean I have hundreds of cases of bulbs I'll never use or sell. However, baring a repeal of the ban, my inner capitalist plans to make lemonade out of lemons.

56 posted on 09/22/2010 7:42:20 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Ev Reeman
I know people who are buying the old light bulbs dozens at a time and hoarding them.

I for one have been buying 100W Revel light bulbs, four 4-packs every payday for a year. Even if common sense overtakes this lunacy and they change the laws back, they won't go bad on the shelf. Just wait until the public understanding finally busts through the MSM willing accomplices in this travesty and they can't get any more 100w bulbs by law in a very short while.

57 posted on 09/22/2010 7:45:09 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: SeekAndFind

I live on the Gulf coast. When hurricanes appear to be headed my way, as part of my evacuation procedure I remove all the CFLs in the house to prevent contamination in case of a lot of damage.

I wonder if other people do that? I haven’t seen any official Hurricane preparedness documents that concern themselves with CFLs.

Disposal? Don’t ask.


58 posted on 09/22/2010 7:50:03 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I mix my use of CFL and incandescents. I'm being up front about it - I used to be anti-CFL and hoarded my incandescents. Then I moved to a newer house (a shoddily built newer house - the type you have to check to see if the window is closed, because the sounds of nature seem to be just as loud with it open, as closed). My incandescents would blow about every 3-4 months. I installed CFLs. The first pack I bought (5 years ago), lasted about a year. The replacement bulbs were still burning last year when I changed out the fixtures, which necessitated a different style of CFL bulb.

The CFL in my bedroom lamp has been in that lamp for more than 6 years.

I have two outdoor fixtures that sit protected from precipitation, but not the heat and cold (we range from low teens in the winter to high 90s in the summer). These bulbs have lasted since they were installed (one is two years old, the other is 3). I only replaced the three-year-old bulb just a couple of weeks ago when I painted my house. The bulb was covered in bird crap, and I didn't want to put it back in the fixture when I re-installed it. I got tired of replacing the incandescents in those two outdoor fixtures, as well, as they seemed to blow about every two months.

The CFLs in the kitchen provide better light in a different color range (more blue than yellow) than the original incandescents ever did (the old fixtures had two incandescents in them to the 1 CFL in the new fixtures). I still use incandescents outside where the bulb has exposure to all the elements, and wind up replacing one of them about every six weeks (they seem to only last about 3 months per bulb).

59 posted on 09/22/2010 7:53:43 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: dblshot

I can’t say anything about ‘lubricants’ since I don’t use any, but as far as the newer LEDs are concerned, they are made from non-rusting materials and the ‘bulb’ is not made of glass, it’s plastic, so you can be pretty forceful and not worry about it ‘exploding’. There is no gas inside the ‘bulb’ and because it doesn’t heat up, you don’t have to worry about the metals or plastics warping or weakening.


60 posted on 09/22/2010 7:55:17 AM PDT by LoneStarGI (Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "BAD HUNTER.")
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