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Rove Rage
IBD Editorials ^ | September 17, 2010 | Investors Business Daily staff

Posted on 09/17/2010 5:24:08 PM PDT by Kaslin

Election '10: An iconic pundit and strategist takes heat for his election night analysis of a Tea Party victory in Delaware. Can we now focus on those who are really leading America over the cliff?

Karl Rove's political street cred is beyond dispute. He's the guru who, to the dismay of Democrats and liberals still clinging to their hanging chads, guided that cowboy from Texas, George W. Bush, to the White House — twice. When he speaks, people listen.

On Fox News last Tuesday, Rove ran off a laundry list of everything that's wrong with Christine O'Donnell, the candidate backed by the Tea Party Express and Sarah Palin who won the Republican Senate primary in Delaware. The Democrats, he said, would pick her apart on personal "issues" such as how she paid off her college loans.

The reaction from the "angry mobs" that became the Tea Party movement was fast and furious. Many thought Rove's remarks would be a good commercial for O'Donnell's Democratic opponent in November, Chris Coons.

Rove could have better spent the time marveling at the political force that has propelled Joe Miller in Alaska, Sharron Angle in Nevada and now O'Donnell to victory against entrenched political interests. An unelectable Scott Brown, R-Mass., now sits in the "Kennedy seat" in the U.S. Senate and the unelectable Marco Rubio, R-Fla., is poised to join what promises to be a most interesting GOP caucus in that same body.

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1 posted on 09/17/2010 5:24:12 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Hey Carl! COONS is the opponent! Not Christine O’Donnell!


2 posted on 09/17/2010 5:25:22 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ( VIVA la SB 1070!)
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To: Kaslin

Does this seriously surprise anyone? His name is KARL, for cryin’ out loud!


3 posted on 09/17/2010 5:28:44 PM PDT by WingsofCourage
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To: Kaslin
The saddest thing about Rove's meltdown on Tuesday is that, in hindsight, it was so unnecessary.

Rove was upset that O'Donnell's defeat of Castle is what put the Senate out of reach of Republicans. However, if Rove had waited just two more days for Rasmussen's Washington state poll to come out, Rove would have learned that Patty Murray surged ahead of Dino Rossi, also taking Washington away from Republicans and putting the Senate TWO seats down.

So, here we are at the end of the week where Rove could blame EITHER Rossi or O'Donnell for "losing" the Senate.

It's not all on O'Donnell's shoulders anymore.

Rove was arguing that O'Donnell was not "electable." Supposedly, Dino Rossi WAS electable, according to Rove.

So we now have "electable" Dino Rossi losing 7% against Patty Murray since the last Rasmussen poll and turning a +2% advantage into a -5% loss in just a few weeks, which blows away any credibility that Rove can call ANYONE "electable."

That's why he should have known better to speak the way he did. Given the Rossi poll, I hope Rove has a change of tune and gets on his knees and apologizes for his lack of faith on Tuesday night.

-PJ

4 posted on 09/17/2010 5:29:51 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Kaslin
O'Reilly just had K. Rove on his program. As soon as this has been showed, I shut the program off.

I also sent off a quick note to FOX programming letting them know that anytime Rove shows up....the channel will be changed.

K. Rove is through.

And....no, I don't think my opinion by itself is going to change anything....but if there are enough of "me" out there....then it sure will.

5 posted on 09/17/2010 5:30:08 PM PDT by Logic n' Reason (What tagline??)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Problem is, PJ, that Washington poll was done by a group which is notoriously BAD at political polling, unlike Rasmussen.


6 posted on 09/17/2010 5:31:49 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: Logic n' Reason

Karl Rove is mad the people didn’t follow his instructions;just who do these voters think they aer,anyway?


7 posted on 09/17/2010 5:36:43 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: OCCASparky
Problem is, PJ, that Washington poll was done by a group which is notoriously BAD at political polling, unlike Rasmussen.

Try again.

Rasmussen September 16: Washington Senate: Murray (D) 51%, Rossi (D) 46%

Rasmussen September 2: Washington Senate: Rossi (R) 48% Murray (D) 46%

-PJ

8 posted on 09/17/2010 5:37:20 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Kaslin

For whatever reason Tokyo Rove at this point, chose to reveal, leaving no doubt, he is one of the enemy within.


10 posted on 09/17/2010 5:39:06 PM PDT by PoloSec (Note to Princess B H Obama: May PISS be Upon Mohammads Head...You Pervert1 Corinthians 15:3 For I de)
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To: Kaslin
All would be advised to ride the wave or be swept aside.

Leviathan

Leviathan

11 posted on 09/17/2010 5:40:21 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Kaslin

Tokyo Rove, a.k.a. Chumley
12 posted on 09/17/2010 5:41:29 PM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Annoy the RINO's, vote Republican)
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To: Logic n' Reason
I was shocked at Karl Rove. If the establishment Republicans had spent half the energy used to attack O'Donnell on attacking Obama’s socialistic policies, we wouldn't be in this mess now.
13 posted on 09/17/2010 5:44:59 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Political Junkie Too

Patty Murray winning makes me SICK to my stomach.....she really is PATHETIC.


14 posted on 09/17/2010 5:46:07 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: fallujah-nuker

"So, what do you wnat to do with that Senate seat, sell it or pawn it?"

-PJ

15 posted on 09/17/2010 5:47:40 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Kaslin

16 posted on 09/17/2010 5:48:42 PM PDT by mirkwood (FUBO FUKR)
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To: Logic n' Reason

“I also sent off a quick note to FOX programming letting them know that anytime Rove shows up....the channel will be changed.”

I just did the same thing. And I’ll keep firing off the emails. This windbag attacked her again. He really needs to be fired since it’s been proven he wanted Castle to win. He’s no analyst, he’s a party hack.


17 posted on 09/17/2010 5:49:19 PM PDT by TxAnn56
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To: Kaslin

THANK YOU for posting another excellent editorial from IBD — I just love a little dose of RATIONALITY in the evening!


18 posted on 09/17/2010 5:49:32 PM PDT by DrDeb
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To: Logic n' Reason

I also turned O’Reilly off in the middle of Rove’s tantrum. The guys voice is going up and he sounds downright shrill. What is his problem??? Seriously? I think he hates women. He sounds bitter. She won without him. “How dare she!”

I got him back by un-liking his Facebook page, unfollowing his Tweets & donating to Christine O’Donnell’s campaign.

http://christine2010.com/


19 posted on 09/17/2010 5:53:53 PM PDT by carmody
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To: Ann Archy
It's true that Rasmussen began including "leaners" in his totals after Labor Day, and the earlier Rossi poll was taken before Labor Day, but still, his campaign must have been aware of the numbers, and so must have Rove and the NRSC, RNC, MSM, etc.

So why are they going after O'Donnell as unelectable, when Rossi, whom they deem electable is failing?

This MUST be the talking point - Let's compare and contrast Rossi and O'Donnell: Who was the more "electable?" Who is responsible for the Republicans "losing" the majority in the Senate?

I would put the blame on Rossi for losing the Senate, not O'Donnell, because Rossi has run for the Senate and let his win be stolen from him by a corrupt recount. How come Rossi isn't a perennial loser but O'Donnell is?

-PJ

20 posted on 09/17/2010 5:53:53 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Kaslin
Old racer adage - "Run what you brung."

Here's another take on it: "Dance with the one that brung you."

In spite of the polls, in spite of the dirt Cable was slinging, O'Donnell won. The people have spoken: O'Donnell won. She is now the duly elected cadidate for the republican party. If Rove is such a stalwart party man it would have made more sense for him to swallow his pride, jump on board and promote O'Donnell.

What purpose did it serve for him to go postal on national TV just because his favored candidate took a good old fashion butt whuppin'? Is he as thin-skinned as Obama?

Rove may believe O'Donnell is unelectable but he also believed she was going to lose to Cable. Tea Party backed candidates have been beating the early polls with regularity this season and it's not beyond belief that she could turn the numbers around in the next seven weeks.

The Arcitect said the Democrats, "would pick her apart on personal "issues". And he then proceded to lay out the strategy for them to do just that.

Now Rove has added an extra burden to O'Donnell's campaign and given the democrats plenty of ammo and talking points. If his goal was to make sure his prediction of her loss is validated he just took a big step to fulfill his own prophecy.
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21 posted on 09/17/2010 5:55:50 PM PDT by Iron Munro (I prayed: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it - He sent the Obamas.)
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To: Kaslin
This is surprising only because RINOs typically act by what they don't do, rather than this kind of open action. RINOs don't fight, RINOs don't question, RINOs don't organize, RINOs don't coordinate, RINOs don't explain, and as a result, they deny effective response to the active, openly destructive Rats. That's their job - they're saboteurs.

But the Tea Party movement has the collectivists so freaked out at this point, even the RINOs are coming out from underneath the bed to scream in fear.

"Fasten your seatblets, it's going to be a bumpy night."


22 posted on 09/17/2010 5:59:21 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: WingsofCourage

Hey that’s my brother’s name too! Force Recon Marine for the last 18 years! Ooh-rah!


23 posted on 09/17/2010 6:03:23 PM PDT by vpintheak (Love of God, Family and Country has made me an extremist.)
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To: Ann Archy
Correction: Rossi ran for Governor, another state-wide election, and let it be stolen from him by a corrput recount.

-PJ

24 posted on 09/17/2010 6:05:28 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Kaslin

On what bases does anyone assign political genius to Rove?

He took a GOP Congressional Majority and possession of the White House and turned it into a absolute political minority.

His only claim to fame is winning 2 Presidential races by the skin of his teeth and being completely wrong in his forecasting before the 2006 and 2008 elections.

Sorry but I see no evidence of any real “genius” from Rove other then that at marketing his reputation


25 posted on 09/17/2010 6:05:57 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: Iron Munro
The 9-12 Project published the fact Mr Rove contacted them for the Castle campaign asking them to switch their support to Castle.

Rove was an active agent, even if unpaid, of the Castle camp.

Rove has never acknowledge that connection. He has repeatedly billed himself in his slanderous attacks on O'Donnell as "just a political analyst" giving his "objective opinion".

That is lying by omission.

That Rove has not made full disclose of his connections to the Castle campaign indicates a clear conflict of interest and a deliberate attempt to mislead Fox News and it's viewers.

When you know of his connection to the Castle camp, his comments are a whole lot less credible

26 posted on 09/17/2010 6:07:31 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: carmody

The 9-12 Project published the fact Mr Rove contacted them for the Castle campaign asking them to switch their support to Castle.

Rove was an active agent, even if unpaid, of the Castle camp.

Rove has never acknowledge that connection. He has repeatedly billed himself in his slanderous attacks on O’Donnell as “just a political analyst” giving his “objective opinion”.

That is lying by omission.

That Rove has not made full disclose of his connections to the Castle campaign indicates a clear conflict of interest and a deliberate attempt to mislead Fox News and it’s viewers.

When you know of his connection to the Castle camp, his comments are a whole lot less credible


27 posted on 09/17/2010 6:08:11 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: DrDeb

The 9-12 Project published the fact Mr Rove contacted them for the Castle campaign asking them to switch their support to Castle.

Rove was an active agent, even if unpaid, of the Castle camp.

Rove has never acknowledge that connection. He has repeatedly billed himself in his slanderous attacks on O’Donnell as “just a political analyst” giving his “objective opinion”.

That is lying by omission.

That Rove has not made full disclose of his connections to the Castle campaign indicates a clear conflict of interest and a deliberate attempt to mislead Fox News and it’s viewers.

When you know of his connection to the Castle camp, his comments are a whole lot less credible


28 posted on 09/17/2010 6:09:13 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: Political Junkie Too

I KNOW that...you wrote to the wrong person, I think. I LIVED in Seattle when he got it STOLEN from him!!


29 posted on 09/17/2010 6:09:19 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Kaslin

Hey, Karly boy—Christine is a much better candidate than Jorge Arbusto, the one who with your guidance barely beat Al Goreleone and Lurch Kerry.


30 posted on 09/17/2010 6:13:19 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
That's why he should have known better to speak the way he did. Given the Rossi poll, I hope Rove has a change of tune and gets on his knees and apologizes for his lack of faith on Tuesday night.

He won't, he was bad mouthing her again tonight. This makes 3 times counting election night that he trashed her.

31 posted on 09/17/2010 6:14:21 PM PDT by calex59
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To: MNJohnnie

Take a breath . . . Rove is as entitled to his opinion (and advocacy) as you are. What’s with the over-the-top incivility?!

[Rove’s one of the good guys. If you must demonize someone, why not focus on those ‘someones’ who are actually trying to destroy this country?]


32 posted on 09/17/2010 6:16:53 PM PDT by DrDeb
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To: Kaslin

Karl has one purpose: to advise the party what to say, where to appear, how to behave, and who to schmooze to get elected. His purpose is only to win. He cares not one wit about US citizens, or their pain or suffering. He simply studies them so he’ll be able to manipulate them for those who would pay him. He’s no different than the ragin’ whats his face. They just entertain different clients (but not much different).

Karl got egg on his face in Delaware. When he loses, it lowers his marketability to the fools what hire him. That’s why he’s pissed.

For him I have little but contempt.


33 posted on 09/17/2010 6:18:58 PM PDT by wgflyer (Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
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To: Ann Archy
you wrote to the wrong person, I think.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to clarify. I was correcting myself, and replied to my post but addressed it to you because my original error was in the post to you.

It may seem trivial to some, but I wanted to correct my error as soon as possible.

-PJ

34 posted on 09/17/2010 6:21:04 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Kaslin

It’s going to be a very interesting senate. I hope she gets elected. I just listened to her speech to the Values Voters and it was terrific! You could tell she wrote the speech herself, she’s not practiced, but boy is she sincere.


35 posted on 09/17/2010 6:21:42 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("I was there when we had the numbers, but didn't have the principles"-Jim DeMint)
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To: Kaslin
Karl Rove's political street cred is beyond dispute. He's the guru who, to the dismay of Democrats and liberals still clinging to their hanging chads, guided that cowboy from Texas, George W. Bush, to the White House — twice. When he speaks, people listen.

Ah, yes, those squeaker wins after 8 years of the Clintons against "no ruling legal authority" Algore and "I voted for the war before I voted against it" Jean effin Kerry. Impressive. /s

36 posted on 09/17/2010 6:21:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: DrDeb
[Rove’s one of the good guys. If you must demonize someone, why not focus on those ‘someones’ who are actually trying to destroy this country?]

Why don't you go have that chat with Rove. He is the one who is doing everything he can to demonize O'Donnell. All I did was report the facts about his connections here.

Rove has connections to the Castle camp and has never disclosed that. That is the sort of conflict of interest that would get you fired in the private sector

So rather then shoot the messenger because you find the message unpalatable,, why don't you have direct your focus on the one DOING the demonizing, Karl Rove?

37 posted on 09/17/2010 6:24:35 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: Logic n' Reason

He is on Fox 24/7 they are trying to save him, They need him for election night. But he is through we hate him and the Panel.


38 posted on 09/17/2010 6:26:21 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: wgflyer

......to the fools what hire him. .....

That crack is uncallled for and is far off the mark. He is a professional and has at least one very excellent client who was President of the United States and is no fool.

Pompous self sanctimonious selfrightousist chest pounding is out of order.


39 posted on 09/17/2010 6:29:04 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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To: DrDeb
I'm engaging in “over the top incivility” for reporting facts, yet Rove's daily recitation of slanders all over national TV, after the documented evidence refuting the lies has been posted on O'Donnell’s website for three days, is evidence he is “one of the good guys”?

Think you got who is engaging in "over the top incivility" backwards here.

40 posted on 09/17/2010 6:30:30 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: carmody
http://christine2010.com/

1.7 million and counting...

41 posted on 09/17/2010 6:48:06 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Logic n' Reason

I felt exactly the same way. I went to Christine2010.com and donated. I pray she wins. I hope he stays off FOX.


42 posted on 09/17/2010 6:49:08 PM PDT by Azbushgal (Blessed be the name of the Lord!)
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To: DrDeb
Take a breath . . . Rove is as entitled to his opinion (and advocacy) as you are. What’s with the over-the-top incivility?!

Roves bitternes and rancor.

43 posted on 09/17/2010 6:56:37 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years)
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To: Kaslin

Rove has lost ‘it’.


44 posted on 09/17/2010 7:00:44 PM PDT by mulligan
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To: Political Junkie Too

I don’t understand the whole Rossi thing, or why Republicans in Washington State comport themselves as weak and apologetic. Rossi needs to get some fire and quickly. The “I was a janitor at the Space Needle” is not cutting it. Go for the jugular already!


45 posted on 09/17/2010 7:01:21 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: FrdmLvr

Let’s see how O’Donnell does going forward. I also heard a bit of her on Cspan tonight and was impressed. She’s in a different universe now. She’s got money and the attention of the nation. Palin said tonight after her speech that she wants to go back to Delaware soon.

Speaking of Palin’s speech, wasn’t that something how she rattled off the names of a lot of moderate republican grumblers including Rove. Whack, whack, whack!


46 posted on 09/17/2010 7:03:07 PM PDT by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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To: Azbushgal

I hope he is on Fox a lot; I can’t wait to see what he comes up with next. I don’t understand why everyone is so upset with Rove and Krauthammer for expressing their opinions. I disagree with them, but I disagreed with everything Bill Clinton did and said. I still watched him every time he was on. Rove’s opinion, like yours and mine, doesn’t mean a whole lot. The voters have spoken and their opinion is the only one that matters.


47 posted on 09/17/2010 7:03:47 PM PDT by csmusaret (The Obama/Pelosi/Reid Cartel is a Kakistocracy)
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To: MNJohnnie; Kaslin

Given that a week ago only a handful of Freepers even knew much less cared about O’Donnell, I can only conclude that the usual suspects — the Paulinian/neo-libertarian/third party zealots — are ginning up anger at Rove for their own nefarious purposes. These purposes, of course, have nothing to do with either O’Donnell or Rove.

[FYI: I ‘know’ and like you — I remember you from the good ole days — and certainly do not include you among those in the ‘nefarious’ group. However, the purity of your motives doesn’t alter what’s actually going on here.]


48 posted on 09/17/2010 7:05:00 PM PDT by DrDeb
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To: Balding_Eagle

Who can argue with that brilliant logic?!


49 posted on 09/17/2010 7:07:19 PM PDT by DrDeb
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To: Kaslin
I just wonder. Could it be that Karl Rove did this on purpose? Could it be that her realizes that all these BAD THINGS are dirt that the liberals and democrats had on Ms ODonnel. By coming out and maybe running through the list and really hitting her hard NOW she is somehow immunized from this coming out in dribs and drabs or in a surprise fashion in October or just before the election.

So say they accuse her of lying about her resume... "Old news, lets talk about the issues.."

What about your failure to pay taxes..."Old news, just repeating what others have said.... lets talk about the issues."

Boyfriend bought house that was foreclosed on...."there you go again with that old stuff. Can't you talk about the issues? We're here to help Delaware and all you want to do is partake in the politics of personal destruction and OLD NEWS.

this might just be an example of using the democrat technique of immunization to scandal as "Old news" "nothing to see here" . hahahahahaha.

Maybe Rove is a "magnificent bastard" after all. just maybe? Spread this around and see what others think.

50 posted on 09/17/2010 7:09:30 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (Our President-A modest man, who has much to be modest about.)
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