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Retiring Air Force intel chief sounds alarm on American air superiority
Stars and Stripes ^ | September 14, 2010 | Kevin Baron,

Posted on 09/14/2010 2:19:37 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

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To: Jewbacca

Yeah, that’s good.
In other missions a bomber could carry UAVs for fighters.
We hope money and effort is going into this at the Pentagon...


21 posted on 09/15/2010 2:05:24 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Neah.
Have you heard about the “Death Ray?”

Seems there is an unexpected feature on the AESA of the F-22 and F-35 (and, strangely enough, the F-18F!). They can fry electronics at fairly long ranges:

AESA type radars have been around a long time, popular mainly for their ability deal with lots of targets simultaneously. But AESA is also able to focus a concentrated beam of radio energy that could scramble electronic components of a distant target. Sort of like the EMP (Electromagnetic Pulse) put out by nuclear weapons. AESA has demonstrated that it can disable missiles and aircraft. Ballistic missiles are another story, as they are sturdier (to handle re-entry stress) and have fewer electronics to mess with.

Your armada would have a hard time engaging, as, one by one, they malfunction and fall to the earth far below.

You could probably do the same thing with AEW or ECM aircraft.

In order for your drones to survive, you'd need to hardent them and that causes the cost to skyrocket.

Drones have never had a throw-down with first world opponent. They may not do so well.

22 posted on 09/15/2010 2:23:16 PM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

So, assumin’ we’re serious, we lead with a sub-launched cruise missile attack on the relevant airfields? A few of those “repurposed” SSBNs can launch an awful lot of SLCMs.

It ain’t cut and dried. The USN spends a lot of time and money thinking about this stuff and how to win it. They publish and use the “worst case” scenarios (like “Indian Sukhois ‘beating’ F-18s in exercises”) to lobby for money, but there is a lot more to it than they ever let on.


23 posted on 09/15/2010 2:30:47 PM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Jet Jaguar
The term is Air SUPREMACY. We left behind superiority a LONG time ago!

Sure enough, idiot headline writer got it wrong, the military man said our “air supremacy” was at risk.

Big difference between being merely superior to being supreme! We may still have Air superiority, but are we losing Air supremacy?

Words mean things, you stupid journalists!

24 posted on 09/15/2010 2:33:52 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Little Ray
A few good missile strikes would really help out, but what if we are heading there for a "flag waving" mission, say another crisis in the Taiwan Straits. The Chinese decide that they have no option but to take out our carriers and have their birds in the air and heading toward them before anyone realizes what is happening.

Yes, I know that this is a worst case scenario, but situations like this have happened before, just on smaller scales.

25 posted on 09/15/2010 3:24:47 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Put your trust in God; but mind to keep your powder dry. - Oliver Cromwell)
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To: Little Ray

The counter to AESA radar frying electronics has long been known, even before AESA radar existed, since the defection of a Soviet MiG-25 Foxbat pilot. It was discovered that his advanced aircraft didn’t have solid state electronics, but tubes, that were far more resistant to electromagnetic pulse.

While I’m not suggesting that drones should have tubes, the philosophy behind this was sound as an effective defensive measure. If nothing else, their electronics can be shielded, and they can fly blind for some seconds until the threat is over—something you can’t do in a high performance aircraft.

Likewise, turnabout is fair play. Since such aircraft are expendable, why not put a few in the armada that are designed to produce a powerful, directional electronic pulse towards a high performance aircraft? Instead of a 1000lb bomb, they carry a 500lb capacitor and a radar dish. And the best part is that even if they can’t use it against an aircraft, they can use it against ground targets.


26 posted on 09/15/2010 4:43:41 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Tubes mean the weight goes up. Propulsion and fuel weight goes up, price of drones goes up, relative payload goes down.


27 posted on 09/16/2010 10:02:35 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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