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Florida Gov. Crist shifts support on gay rights issues
mcclatchydc.com ^ | Sept. 14, 2010 | Beth Reinhard

Posted on 09/14/2010 11:59:43 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Continuing his makeover from Republican to independent U.S. Senate candidate, Gov. Charlie Crist on Monday affirmed his support for civil unions, adoption by same-sex couples, and doing away with the military's ban on openly gay soldiers.

Equality Florida, the state's leading gay rights group, called Crist's statement on a range of gay issues "the most comprehensive, pro-LGBT equality stand of a sitting governor in Florida's history."

Crist's Democratic opponent for Senate, U.S. Rep. Kendrick Meek, called it "too little too late." He and the Republican nominee, Marco Rubio, noted the governor had backed a 2008 amendment to the state constitution banning same sex marriage, flip-flopped on the military's "don't ask, don't tell policy" earlier this year and opposed gay adoption in his 2006 campaign.

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1 posted on 09/14/2010 11:59:47 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Didn’t come out of the closet yet I see...


2 posted on 09/14/2010 12:02:04 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; Perdogg
Ole Chazz is setting himself up for his next government job - he can enlist in the 'gay ole' military!

FABULOUS!!!

3 posted on 09/14/2010 12:03:47 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Vote McCarthy (MA-6)/Bielat (MA-4). MA-4 is Bwaney's district.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; All
"Florida Gov. Crist shifts support on gay rights issues"

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4 posted on 09/14/2010 12:04:50 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: bill1952

He’s saving that for a little closer to the election. Wait for the commercial, “I am a victim of homophobia.”


5 posted on 09/14/2010 12:06:09 PM PDT by stop_fascism (Compared to Moctezuma II, Obama isn't that bad.)
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To: bill1952
The proper headline:

Charlie Crist comes out of the closet - as the Leftist he always was

6 posted on 09/14/2010 12:12:21 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Islamists demanding "tolerance"? That's like Hannibal Lecter demanding to decide the menu.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He is a total idiot. To think Independents want sexual chaos and do not believe in Natural Law Theory which is the foundation of this country and societies for thousands of years. Natural rights of children demand a biological mother and biological father to raise them....for their emotional and physical protection. He is denying the foundation of our Constitution.

You can not advocate illogical unions which add to medical costs and destroys the minds of children to be able to reason, use logic and science. Go back to pagan Rome and the orgies......when women were reduced to second class citizens and breeders for the little boys that all homosexual societies use for their pleasure.

(Afghanistan is an example of unrestrained homosexual behavior in society. Handsome little boys are always in danger of being used and then taught to be part of that life style just like in Sparta. Very sick and violent.)


7 posted on 09/14/2010 12:13:44 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie

Is he a closet gay also? I keep hearing that he is a puffter, but that he is trying to hide it.


8 posted on 09/14/2010 12:17:55 PM PDT by CT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slx8CCjoL4E&feature=related)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He didn’t “shift support”, he merely stopped hiding his deviancy. (Well, at least most of it.)


9 posted on 09/14/2010 12:17:58 PM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” lacks merit in at least three areas. Repeal means institutionalizing threats to the religious liberty of Chaplains and other service members. Homosexuality must also estrange itself from medicine and science in order to fabricate a social justice issue. Finally, arguments maintaining that open homosexuality will not hurt morale declaim the character of military operations.

Jewish, Christian, and Muslim believers find their Constitutionally guaranteed freedom of religion threatened by the repeal. For many followers of desert religions, who send their pastors into the chaplaincy and their believers into military service, homosexual behavior is unacceptable. Instead it resides among the myriad sins entrapping humanity that lives in a fallen world with a fallen nature.

For them foundational scholarship concludes homosexual relationships separate believers from God. The Old Testament, holy to “People of the Book”, speaks of the character, identity, and purpose of God in a manner, which continuously addresses homosexuality. God is spoken of as masculine, and all humans become feminine in relation to Him. In addition to creating all things, God created the single institution of heterosexual marriage as the earthy manifestation of the relationship of the absolute unity and love He seeks with each person. Classical Semitic theology emphasizes searching for, and identifying with God in the spiritual dimension. In order to be “good” actions and thoughts must reinforce the faith commitment to relationship. There are huge numbers of Jewish, Christian, and Muslim believers for whom any subsequent reasoning from scriptures must proceed from that basic understanding. Therefore after repeal, when believers reject homosexuality in counseling rolls or in common life expressions, they would become guilty by popular acclamation of at least cultural prejudice.

Advocates for repeal find foundational medical and scientific credibility in the 1973 decision by the American Psychiatric Association (APA) to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder from its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM). Removal followed a two year campaign Newsweek described as ongoing disruptive, chaotic attacks on psychiatrists and physiologists. Yet throughout these disruptive attacks, no academic papers were presented at conferences refuting any research previously done.

Eventually onslaughts forced sufficient abstentions and apprehensive responses for a third of APA’s 17,000 plus membership to approve removal. The under-voting and public attacks support the understanding that the DSM is as likely to accumulate political manifestos and marketing brochures as attempts at scientific exposition.

After this decision a new task force was established to ensure perpetual sanctity for the APA action. No research papers would again arise to confirm initial therapy success rates of 30% to 60 %, substantiating that 7 of 10 homosexuals could eventually walk away from the lifestyle forever. This task force would set peer review standards mandating pre-ordained theses, acceptable flexibility in research design definitions, and acceptable human data points. Psychology and Psychiatry chose to relinquish scientific rigor for popular societal and political acclaim.

My Representative presents an argument in favor of repeal, which betrays a basic misunderstanding of the character of military service. He says, “The private, legal sexual conduct of military personnel off duty and off base, whether homosexual or heterosexual, should not be of interest to the Pentagon leadership. The bottom line is that an individual’s performance in uniform is what should count. Sexual contact on base is already governed by the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) - the judicial code that all military personnel are subject to.”

Yet military operations to protect this country are not conducted in garrison, and offer no opportunities for off duty or private time. Operating military personnel, locked in small task oriented units, forward deploy, and continuously face extraordinary stress if not actual combat. These environments are inherently chaotic and brittle, and can only be overcome by totalitarian authority unimaginable in pacific situations. At this point Psychology and Psychiatry should make a meaningful contribution, but their 1973 decision enables base antidotal politics to dominate the debate.

This debate should not veer into secular humanist social justice. The primary issues to consider should be Constitutional religious freedom, and whether any mental disorders can be tolerated within the exceptional human structures needed to defeat enemies unconcerned with social engineering.


10 posted on 09/14/2010 12:18:02 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is great news, and makes me pretty confident now that Crist will be splitting the Dim votes and not the conservative or Republican votes.


11 posted on 09/14/2010 12:20:38 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Crist is a great example of the desperate pandering we get from our politicians when they’re in danger of getting kicked away from the public trough.


12 posted on 09/14/2010 12:20:54 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Another “Profile in Courage” from RINO-land.


13 posted on 09/14/2010 12:21:17 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He puts Arlen Specter to shame.


14 posted on 09/14/2010 12:28:27 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: CT

I’m 100% convinced he’s a closeted homo. No real proof but the rumors and statements his ex-fiancé has made. Plus, now this.


15 posted on 09/14/2010 12:32:02 PM PDT by lwd
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To: savagesusie

China is becoming “Giant Sparta” with the male surplus.

If one goes back to pagan history, women were at the worst status in history. Not even in Traditional Jewish or Christian society (minus corruption and deviation from true principle) it was common for women to be prostitutes for the Gods, and sacrifice their own babies (infanticide and unconstrained abortion sounds quite familiar). Except for learning the historical horrors of paganism, the words Molech and Astarte (Ashtoreth) should not be uttered.


16 posted on 09/14/2010 12:41:17 PM PDT by Morpheus2009 (I pity the fool - Mr. T.)
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To: savagesusie

China is becoming “Giant Sparta” with the male surplus.

If one goes back to pagan history, women were at the worst status in history. Not even in Traditional Jewish or Christian society (minus corruption and deviation from true principle) it was common for women to be prostitutes for the Gods, and sacrifice their own babies (infanticide and unconstrained abortion sounds quite familiar). Except for learning the historical horrors of paganism, the words Molech and Astarte (Ashtoreth) should not be uttered.


17 posted on 09/14/2010 12:42:44 PM PDT by Morpheus2009 (I pity the fool - Mr. T.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Looks like Crist is finally letting the truth about his leftist sentiments out of the bag.


18 posted on 09/14/2010 1:17:50 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Morpheus2009

I know that you are correct....and being a woman and having a daughter, I realize that the U.S. was the best place ever to have been born a woman because of Western Civilization which was tempered by Christian theology and aligned with Natural Law Theory. Jews and Christians are the ones who elevated the status of women which then was extended to children.

Marxists have been destroying the family and religion through feminism and homosexuality and that is because they had to do that to destroy this nation and take it over. Weak families...destroy children....who become easily controlled adults.


19 posted on 09/14/2010 1:22:08 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie

Perhaps you know this already, but feminism has been hijacked by secular ideology.

“Sweeter even than to have had the joy of caring for children of my own has it been to me to help bring about a better state of things for mothers generally, so their unborn little ones could not be willed away from them.”

-Susan B. Anthony


20 posted on 09/14/2010 1:29:20 PM PDT by Morpheus2009 (I pity the fool - Mr. T.)
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