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Blagojevich Juror Held Out on Senate Seat Sale
CBS/AP ^ | 8-17-10

Posted on 08/17/2010 6:10:26 PM PDT by STARWISE

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To: GonzoGOP

I was referring to the overall 24 counts.


21 posted on 08/17/2010 6:28:20 PM PDT by donozark (Cut taxes and leave my guns alone!)
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To: norton
‘If I were the hold out juror I'd have been asking “where is the name Barry Sotero in the list of indictments” and “why am I only being asked if ONE of the conspiators is guilty”?’

If they had been properly charged by the judge they would have been informed that their only concern was with the innocence or guilt of the person charged. Other individuals who may have been charged or may be charged at some other time is not a subject for them to consider. Likely in voi dire they had been questioned to ensure that they would obey the judge's instructions in that area. If they swore falsely they might go down on a perjury rap.

22 posted on 08/17/2010 6:28:32 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: STARWISE

One damned juror...

Retry and convict. Jail is too good for this slimeblago.


23 posted on 08/17/2010 6:35:44 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Red Steel

The retrial usually ends in conviction. The prosecutor is able to shore up the holes. That is, unless this juror was a renegade, unwilling to listen to facts and evidence.


24 posted on 08/17/2010 6:36:12 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: STARWISE

The perjury trial against Burris fell apart when the key witness had a fatal car crash. His name was John Ruff.

John Ruff dies in auto accident (Key Figure in Burris Perjury Trial)

Did you know that?


25 posted on 08/17/2010 6:37:42 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: bigbob

I agree Blago is scum. But this is just another example of the political class sticking it to us. 24 count indictment. 23 tossed. That says it all. Even if he does time? Allenwood
Club Fed. Perhaps Eglin AFB. Where the “clients” take day trips to the beach and Christmas shop at local malls?


26 posted on 08/17/2010 6:40:21 PM PDT by donozark (Cut taxes and leave my guns alone!)
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To: maggief; STARWISE; hoosiermama

Why are you lovin it? LOL. All it ever takes is one! Blago got off cheap.

If true, I’m P.O.’d, because it means Fitz proved his case to the eleven others and now I’ll have to booze my way through the retrial.

Frink.


27 posted on 08/17/2010 6:40:29 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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So how much was she offered to change her vote to “guilty”? After listening to the testimony, it’s obvious that’s how Chicago politics is done.


28 posted on 08/17/2010 6:43:59 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Even the earth is bipolar.)
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To: STARWISE

Once the jury is released, they are free to talk about what happened. It is not “leaking.”

It is amazing that they got 11 Chicago jurors to vote to convict Blago.


29 posted on 08/17/2010 6:44:40 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: Laserman

That would be a great way to scare future jurors into siding with the government when unsure. Not my favorite idea.


30 posted on 08/17/2010 6:45:25 PM PDT by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: onyx
I'm betting Blank-O will be doing some time or might even be a little nervous having JJJ, Val, Rahm-E testify.....Things that will make him squeal early.

After a few threats from the men still in office he might even wear a wire to protect himself.....Wish we could be flies on the wall.....

31 posted on 08/17/2010 6:46:36 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama; STARWISE; maggief

“Both Revko and Blank-O are convicted felons who have yet to be sentenced....How much does that influence the courts?”

I don’t know... anyone?

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Everything you mentioned is possible. Like I said earlier, that one juror is likely already undergoing a thorough scrutiny and jurors should have been monitored all through the trial.

My headache will come back if I give this more thought tonight. A change of venue might help, ya think?

Blago the innocent victim of “overly zealous prosecution” was too much to take. He’s a showman for sure. I’m sick of hearing from him AND Shepard.


32 posted on 08/17/2010 6:48:22 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: WellyP

Anywhere but Los Angeles, LOL


33 posted on 08/17/2010 6:50:07 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: hoosiermama

You’re right! He does have a sentence hanging over his head with count 24.

O/T Sarah on Greta in 15 minutes. If your Dad is awake, tell him!


34 posted on 08/17/2010 6:50:18 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: onyx

And the Defense may be able to bring a few Obama flunkies down with them in the next go around. I’m thinking Raumbo ‘deadfish’ and Jackson Jr. comes to mind.

Pass the popcorn.


35 posted on 08/17/2010 6:54:43 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: combat_boots

I live about 6 miles from the site of Ruff’s “accident”—and his family claims his briefcase was not found at the crash site. Go figure . . .


36 posted on 08/17/2010 6:59:44 PM PDT by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: onyx

Hehehehe ...

I’m grateful for this outcome.

This one was a FARCE .. the next one
will hopefully get deeper and into
the BIG FISH.

It will also be making headlines during
the build up and the midterms. That’s GOOD
for us.

Since the verdict, many legal experts are
already on the record describing how poorly
the govt did in this case .. stopping the
investigation short, withholding witnesses,
etc.

I wanna see Rezko, Emanuel, Jarrett, Jesse
Jr. on the stand .. and to hear the REST
of the tapes the govt withheld and hear ALL
the freakin’ schemes .. and to see the
belly of the beast that is the IL/Chicago
thug/union/political patronage machine AND
OBAMAVILLE eviscerated and blown up for the
world to see.

There WAS no proven quid pro quo that we’ve
heard yet .. only talk.


37 posted on 08/17/2010 7:02:44 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Red Steel

I’ll have to have some nice, cold beer with that popcorn!


38 posted on 08/17/2010 7:05:05 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: STARWISE; onyx; hoosiermama; Dengar01

A woman on the jury didn’t believe the evidence clearly implicated the former governor, according to Erik Sarnello, 21 of Itasca.

“I think she wanted clear-cut evidence, and not everything was clear-cut,” Sarnello said.

The hold-out “just didn’t see what we all saw,” he added.
The jury was more divided on other counts against Blagojevich. When the jurors were discussing the secret tapes of the former governor, those who thought he was guilty referred to recordings that supported their point of view, while those who thought he was not guilty cited other portions of the tapes.

“And there’s nothing you can do about that,” Sarnello said.

Sarnello, a sophomore at College of DuPage studying criminal justice, said the main problem with the prosecution’s case was that it appeared scattered.

“It confused people. They didn’t follow a timeline. They jumped around,” he said.

Overall, he said, there wasn’t much contention and jurors were fairly respectful of one another.

Sarnello said he didn’t register for fall classes because he thought the trial would still be going on.

The jury foreman said he would’ve convicted the former governor on all counts, but praised his fellow jury members.

“They were very strong personalities,” James Matsumoto of the jury. “They were all independent thinkers.”

The foreman also said jurors came close to convictions on a number of the 24 counts against the former governor — as close as 11-1 — but remained far apart on others.

The jury convicted Blagojevich on only one count, lying to the FBI, and deadlocked on the remaining 23 counts. They also deadlocked on the four counts against the former governor’s brother, Robert.

At one point, Matsumoto said, jurors had reached agreement on a second count against Blagojevich, number 14, attempted extortion. But after reviewing testimony from former Deputy Gov. Bradley Tusk on Monday, one juror went back and opposed convicting.

Matsumoto gave the jury a great deal of credit, saying the deliberations were frustrating but that they all worked very hard.

Another juror, Stephen Wlodak, a human resources manager from Bartlett, also would have convicted Blagojevich of more counts.

“It is disappointing to have something of this magnitude and this much effort end like this,” he said.

His job on the jury was to play the CDs containing the secret recordings. “The tapes, obviously that was the tell-all. I think it did speak volume as to what the case was about.”

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/08/blago-jurors-1-vote-away-from-convicting-on-senate-seat.html


39 posted on 08/17/2010 7:10:21 PM PDT by maggief
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To: onyx
Sounds good! :-)

Flaglady is saying that the Chicago local media has it as 5 for Blago and 7 against Blago jury split.

Here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2572481/posts?page=13#13

and here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2572481/posts?page=19#19

40 posted on 08/17/2010 7:11:40 PM PDT by Red Steel
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