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Catholic bishops, cardinals decry Arizona immigration law
washingtonpost.com ^ | Aug 9 2010 | Bishop Gabino Zavala

Posted on 08/09/2010 3:31:16 PM PDT by NoLibZone

Edited on 08/09/2010 3:51:18 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The Catholic tradition often speaks of the "dignity of the human person," and we hear it so often that it's easy to lose sight of the pressing urgency and implications of this mandate. But the present controversy surrounding SB 1070 in Arizona prompts us to reconsider the immediate relevance of this tenet. As a Catholic, my faith emphatically tells me that honoring human dignity is essential to a just society. This profound belief that God's love and life are for everyone, especially the most vulnerable, compels me to action. Our tradition insists this commitment to the common good must inform our politics on a fundamental level. And it must inform our commitment both to advocating for comprehensive immigration reform and standing against SB 1070.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: alienbishop; aliens; arizona; catholic; illegalinvasion; illegals; immigration; mexofascism; sb1070; socialitcatholics; standwitharizona
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1 posted on 08/09/2010 3:31:21 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

Thomas Jefferson was correct about foreign nation based religions and being a patriot.


2 posted on 08/09/2010 3:35:21 PM PDT by NoLibZone (If we could remove bad representatives through voting, voting would have been made illegal by now.)
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To: NoLibZone

I didn’t know the Know Nothing Party still had members. Huh.


3 posted on 08/09/2010 3:36:43 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: NoLibZone

So the Catholic Church has no problem with people breaking the law. Considering that one of those “unfortunates” ran over an killed a nun recently, maybe the good Cardinal should stick to celebrating Mass and leave law enforcement to the state.

And I say this as a Catholic, but I am very sick and tired of repeated sermons at the churches in my Parish extolling the rights of the illegals and the bigotry of those that would send them back. Frankly, I really wish at one point those of us who disagree would just get up and walk out.


4 posted on 08/09/2010 3:39:06 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Ronald Reagan: "our liberal friends....know so much that isn't so...")
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To: NoLibZone

Well, Catholics, your Cardinals and Bishops are saying this law is against Catholic “traditions” (because they know there is nothing in the actual Bible to support it).

It looks like the most godly among you Catholics says you conservative Catholics are stupid.

It’s official.


5 posted on 08/09/2010 3:41:49 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pin up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: NoLibZone

I believe these prelates are 100% wrong. Having said that, I would give them more than a passing “What you mean Willis” glance if they applied the same criteria to Mexico and it Southern Border policies!

These are either misguided individuals at best, or more likely Commie/Secular plants out to subvert the Church and the United States.

This is not Catholic doctrine in any sense. It maybe Liberation Theology, but not Catholic doctrine.


6 posted on 08/09/2010 3:42:17 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Right Cal Gal
the rights of the illegals

Invasion is a Civil Right...huh...whoda thunk

Ask your pastor if he would still feel the same way if it were, oh, 30 million Righteous Muslims walking in...who really, really believe that they have 2nd Amendment Rights

7 posted on 08/09/2010 3:42:56 PM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out!! The Americans are On the March!! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: NoLibZone

They have a partial point. There has been a hell of a lot of nodding and winking on both sides of the political aisle in the process of virtually beckoning the people in who, as George W. Bush infamously put it, “do the work that Americans won’t do.” And so the complaints about being inhumane to what, legally, are invaders, have a surface appeal. After all you don’t invite somebody then treat him like dirt, do you?

America needs to confess having sent mixed messages and to try to resolve the matter humanely but in a way that puts a screeching end to Mexico’s attempt to annex the USA, so to speak.


8 posted on 08/09/2010 3:44:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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9 posted on 08/09/2010 3:46:25 PM PDT by don-o (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: NoLibZone

“Today in our country, the outsiders and the excluded, those whose dignity is threatened daily, are the millions of immigrants living and working in the Unites States like Liliana, people “whose wages we have underpaid, whose provisions for healthcare we have resented, despite their back-breaking work to provide for our dinner tables,”

If he and the rest of the American Catholic Bishops had as much concern about “human dignity”, as they claim, and had equal concern for the rational obligation to distinguish between “choice” and “necessity”, as in why and how someone chooses to be here illegally versus legally, then they would take their moral “concern” and the Pope with them, to a permanent Catholic encampment IN MEXICO to PERMANENTLY demand the “Catholic” society of Mexico QUIT CREATING THE CONDITIONS THAT CAUSE IT’S CITIZENS TO CHOOSE TO BREAK U.S. IMMIGRATION LAWS.

The poem written for the Statue of Liberty, extended the idea of Liberty NOT simply to “the huddled masses”, but directly and intentionally to “the huddled masses YEARNING TO BE FREE. The people of Mexico have has much political freedom as we do. It is their Catholic society, in Mexico that needs reform, so that its citizens will choose to stay there instead of invading this land illegally. That is where the American Catholic Bishops need to take their “moral” concerns. (1st remove the tree from thine own eye).


10 posted on 08/09/2010 3:47:51 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: big'ol_freeper; NoLibZone

Any religious group that has sympathizers to the invaders, whether home grown or not, is going to be a thorn in the US’s side. The Roman Catholic churches, if they actually accepted their walking orders from Rome instead of sucking up to Mexico, would be far friendlier to the idea of border integrity and of helping the would-be immigrants where they are, in Mexico, rather than helping them sneak in as invaders.


11 posted on 08/09/2010 3:51:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: NoLibZone

Our Bishop of the San Bernardion Diocese, Gerald Barnes, spends most of his time telling us that we need to support the illegal immigrants. Almost all of his messages to the parishes relate to immigration matters. In the meantime, he seems ill-trained to manage our diocese in an organized fashion. Maybe he should spend a lot more of his time doing the job of managing the diocese. Until then, no contributions to any of his fund raising efforts.


12 posted on 08/09/2010 3:52:50 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: NoLibZone

The Catholic bishops have been in de facto schism from the Catholic Church for 30 years. Catholics who know their faith ignore them.


13 posted on 08/09/2010 3:53:25 PM PDT by schmootman
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To: CdMGuy

Sorry, that should read: San Bernardino.


14 posted on 08/09/2010 3:55:00 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: NoLibZone

Bishops say all kinds of stupid things.

And I suppose the chaos on the border, the drug-running, the gang-warfare, the rape of women, the abuse of illegal labor, the deaths of II’s in the desert - No sin there, eh?


15 posted on 08/09/2010 3:55:06 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Wuli

Good point about “yearning to be free.” This means accepting the American deal as it stands, not trying to cheat it or trying to enchain themselves and everyone else in yet another kind of slavery.


16 posted on 08/09/2010 3:55:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: schmootman

Scratch that post. The AMERICAN bishops have been in de facto schism from the Catholic Church for 30 years. Catholics who know their faith ignore them.


17 posted on 08/09/2010 3:55:55 PM PDT by schmootman
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To: schmootman

An early Christian orator opined that the floor of hell was “lined with the skulls of bishops.” If this kind of nonsense was taking place in his time, it’s easy to see why he said that.


18 posted on 08/09/2010 3:59:01 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: NoLibZone
Funny how secularist, progressives, etc. have long sought to minimize, if not get rid of religion, and yet, when necessity dictates so, they use religion to push their agendas.....WaPo.....how quaint.....not. =.=
19 posted on 08/09/2010 4:02:05 PM PDT by cranked
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To: NoLibZone
Proving once again that the Roman Catholic Church is not an American institution. Who knew?

America is lucky that the Catholic Church had little to do with the development of our Constitution.

20 posted on 08/09/2010 4:02:27 PM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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