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Mama can't find a doctor, and other fallout from new Democratic legislation
Southern Political Report ^ | July 22, 2010 | Matt Towery

Posted on 07/24/2010 7:31:13 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

And I've had my first eye-opener. Like everyone of their generation, my parents automatically qualify for Medicare. Soon after the new health care bill passed, their personal physician retired. When they set about looking for a new one, they kept hearing the same refrain: "We are no longer accepting new patients."

Why? Because while Congress fashioned a massive -- and massively expensive -- new health care program, they have also allowed Medicare reimbursements to physicians to be reduced. Many seniors have physicians who are their contemporaries because they've been under their care for many years. As these older physicians retire, their patients are scrambling to find replacements. They're encountering "do not apply" signs on the doors of medical facilities.

Now that's change you can believe in.

Next comes the unfolding realization that the new law is stocked with all sorts of little gems that are destined to make life harder for the young and those still working. For example, many small businesses already dread the annual task of creating 1099 tax forms for those individual contractors they pay each year for goods and services. Apparently they now also will be required to issue similar forms to every corporation, vendor or other party they pay during the taxable year.

As interpreted by many, the new law suggests the need for, say, a local hardware store to search out the tax identification number of huge corporations they pay for products or services. If this interpretation of the law is correct, and it's truly enforced, business in America will be ground to a halt by a cascade of paperwork.

Also in the coming months, all types of entities touched by the new financial reform laws will suddenly learn that they are required to comply with new bureaucratic rules

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthcarereform; obamacare; romney; romneycare; romneydeathpanels; romneykilledgrandma; socializedmedicine

1 posted on 07/24/2010 7:31:15 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: bamahead; neverdem; ExTexasRedhead; justiceseeker93; yongin; Maelstorm
It looks so dire. Even if Republicans can retake Congress, they might not have enough votes to repeal this monstrosity.
2 posted on 07/24/2010 7:32:28 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I’ll Bump.....


3 posted on 07/24/2010 7:35:24 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF - Year: 1972)
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To: Clintonfatigued

If it can’t be repealed they need to refrain from funding any of the agencies set up to administer it. Let it wither on the vine. Refudiate it.


4 posted on 07/24/2010 7:40:56 PM PDT by Thom Pain (2 + 2 = 4 : Defending the Constitution is CENTRIST; not RIGHT WING! Don't be labeled!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

In order to reduce healthcare costs, old people should just die. Well, except those in or connect to the Inner Party. /obama and the demscum


5 posted on 07/24/2010 7:42:41 PM PDT by piytar (Journomarxists didnt go away. They just moved to a more secure venue...)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Just one heartbeat on the Supreme Court could save or ruin America. That is, the earliest the Republicans could get enough seats in the House and the Senate to override Obama could be in two elections.

This means that mitigating these horrors can almost only occur if the Supreme Court throws them out in their entirety.

The only other way would be a constitutional convention, because no single constitutional amendment, or even several could negate enough of the built up insanity to matter.

Personally, I detest the fact that the future of our nation relies on the heartbeat of a single SCOTUS justice. The States *should* intervene, and correct this insanity before it destroys our country.

Right now, they are forming blocs to challenge federal power, but they have not realized that *all* of those blocs have the same basic purpose—to restore federal power to its authorized framework, and to restore the rights of the States, and the people, at the same time.

This is their job. The States are supposed to keep the federal house in order, and they have not. In the next constitution, it might not be unreasonable that the States, even if they wish no changes, still have to meet every 50 years to debate possible changes.

No real chance of too much radicalism there, because 38 States would still have to vote for any changes made, and the only thing that many States can agree on is to challenge federal power.


6 posted on 07/24/2010 7:43:43 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Clintonfatigued

The content of Obamacare is irrelevant! Any federal version of health care is unconstitutional since Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution does not specifically list regulating health care as an enumerated power! The people are not bound by an unconstitutional act! It is time for the people to defend the Constitution by openly defying this marxist regime!


7 posted on 07/24/2010 7:44:40 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Earlier.
8 posted on 07/24/2010 7:46:53 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: piytar; All

And, just so all of you know....

Some of us have children who are so involved in their own lives, jobs, child care obligations, that they are overwhelmed, annoyed, and irritated when we tell them that we need their support and help.

So, maybe we should just die?


9 posted on 07/24/2010 7:49:48 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: Steely Tom

Oh, well, the more it’s seen, the better.


10 posted on 07/24/2010 7:56:57 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: jacquej

NO !

Learn, practice and get experience ! Network with others in similar situations. Form support groups. Prepare to help each other out. Think and believe. Think, think !

Winston Freaking Churchill ! Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, give up.


11 posted on 07/24/2010 7:57:37 PM PDT by onona (dbada)
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To: Clintonfatigued

One effect of Obamacare and the growing number of doctors who will not see Medicare patients is that many of those patients might well begin seeking care in hospital emergency rooms.


12 posted on 07/24/2010 7:58:55 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Clintonfatigued

This is why I advocate Texas secession. There is not going to be any way to roll that crap back in time to save the United States’ economy.


13 posted on 07/24/2010 8:18:47 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Soylent Green


14 posted on 07/24/2010 8:33:02 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo

Hey, seniors...nobamacare = stay well or DIE! That’s hope & change for you.


15 posted on 07/24/2010 8:43:10 PM PDT by hal ogen
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
The States are supposed to keep the federal house in order, and they have not.

The States abdicated their say when they ratified the 17th amendment. Once that happened - the fine balance the framers envisioned got thrown out of whack. What was supposed to be a body that represented the states interests turned into a Hose of Representative style popularity contest. Bad thing is - it lacks the localized responsibility to a constituency of a House of Representative member and isn't checked every two years like House members.

No, the Senate, following the 17th amendment, became something else. Responsible to nobody locally, nor to the state specifically. Arrogant prom kings and queens that lack any real kind of supervision or accountability.

The body of Congress that was supposed to effectively balance the power of a strong executive branch was flushed down the toilet long ago. We are only starting to recognize the impacts.

Personal opinon of course...

16 posted on 07/24/2010 8:52:10 PM PDT by !1776!
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To: DTogo
Soylent Green?

If it's made from old people, wouldn't truth in advertising require us to call it "Soylent Gray"?

17 posted on 07/24/2010 8:55:25 PM PDT by sjmjax
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To: Clintonfatigued
WE ain't seen nothing yet.

My seat-mate on a flight from Austin to Detroit, on our way east, owns a medical clinic in Austin and his wife is a doctor.

He said that fully 1/3rd of today's doctors are ready to retire as soon as the obummercare takes effect.

Add this to the fact that there will be some 40 million new people added to the plan - we can't even fathom how bad it's going to be.

18 posted on 07/24/2010 8:56:19 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: y'all

WAS: Take two aspirin and call me in the moning.
IS: Take two bullets and I’ll send someone in the morning.


19 posted on 07/24/2010 9:02:15 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (Live and let live; is not working...)
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To: Will88
"One effect of Obamacare and the growing number of doctors who will not see Medicare patients is that many of those patients might well begin seeking care in hospital emergency rooms."

Another effect is that patients won't be seeing doctors. They'll be seeing nurse practitioners, physician assistants and any other cost-effective paraprofessional that can be dreamed up. And if there is something that there is just not substitute for (neurosurgeon for example) these specialists will be threatened with criminal charges if they don't do as they are told, and work for whatever they are given.

20 posted on 07/24/2010 9:36:44 PM PDT by The Good Doctor (Democracy is the only system where you can vote for a tax that you can avoid the obligation to pay.)
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To: !1776!

I quite agree and could add a lot more. Even the confederacy realized that there were several, non-slavery related, common sense changes that should have been made *then* to the constitution, which they put into their confederate constitution. But those changes have never made it to the US constitution.

From the very start to today, we still haven’t figured out a good way to pay for the operations of the federal government. The Income Tax and FICA are already collapsing from their overhead.

Marbury v. Madison resulted in the imperial presidency feared by the founding fathers, because the president is now above the law, impeachment and conviction being almost impossible.

Abraham Lincoln gave us corporate civil rights, that sorely need to be distinguished from living human civil rights.

Both the Posse Comitatus and War Powers Acts need to be integrated into the constitution. As does a Balanced Budget and prohibition of federal largess to individuals amendments.

Term limits for everyone. And there are many more issues beyond that.


21 posted on 07/24/2010 9:51:44 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Clintonfatigued
Don't worry, Obama will usher in a tide of rude, uneducated clinicians that will enthusiastically tell us to:
  "sit down, shut up, and wait your damn turn!"

Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.

22 posted on 07/24/2010 9:56:51 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

23 posted on 07/24/2010 10:00:11 PM PDT by Bean Counter
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To: Clintonfatigued
"It looks so dire. Even if Republicans can retake Congress, they might not have enough votes to repeal this monstrosity."

Yes I agree with you. That has been my fear all along. The republicans and many are crazy if they think it will all go back to normal if they take the house back.

This is exactly what O hopes and what he took that stimulus money for. 400 B can go around to buy back loyalty of many, many, 2012 voters.
24 posted on 07/24/2010 10:46:33 PM PDT by JSteff (((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)))
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Great post, and exactly a long the lines I have been posting for a long time. This was obvious to me back before the election. Actually, even if conservatives can get back one of the houses... let alone both O will still be in office for two more years.

Nearly certainly there will be the replacement of 1 or 2 members of SCOTUS. Yesterday I posted that even if our side gets the house, expect a media blitz much worse than what Bill ginned up to avoid conviction of his impeachment. Additionally, it will be much worse than was unleashed on America against Bush to get O in as president.

2010 is not as much a win as the signal to start a media blitz against America. Remember, they still have over 400B of the stimulus unspent. Where does anyone think that is going?

All along it was to keep the Dems in power and particularly O in the White house.

Oh, and note my tag line.
26 posted on 07/24/2010 11:02:17 PM PDT by JSteff (((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)))
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To: !1776!

Bingo! I’ve been saying exactly that for the past 6 years now.


27 posted on 07/24/2010 11:13:43 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Man50D
"Any federal version of health care is unconstitutional since Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution does not specifically list regulating health care as an enumerated power!"

We may all believe that but, it is up to SCOTUS and the will of the American electorate to follow that line of thinking. First is the need to keep the voters with us. Second is to get a challenge before the court so they can rule on it.

For part one, the fickle electorate can be expected to stay behind a mandate to get rid of the plan for how long? 2? 3? 4? years. Meanwhile the the media and the dems unleash a campaign to go back to O and his plan. Remember, they still have 400B to spend from the stimulus money, which buys a bunch of media and puts a lot of money and "gifts" in the voters pockets.

So now the second part. Do you really think SCOTUS will get on any action at any time soon? Do you think we will stay at the "balance" we are at now, or O gets to put someone else on the court?

Your thoughts and reasoning now? Fact is, until it is ruled unconstitutional it is in effect and the wheels an 100+ admin departments and agency's are moving ahead with their own rules (LAW!) that they are tasked to set up. So in even 2 years there will be a mess to unwind, and no federal agency or department just "goes away".

Read my tag line!
28 posted on 07/24/2010 11:26:39 PM PDT by JSteff (((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)))
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To: JSteff
We may all believe that but, it is up to SCOTUS and the will of the American electorate to follow that line of thinking. First is the need to keep the voters with us. Second is to get a challenge before the court so they can rule on it.

Wrong. Neither SCOTUS, Congress nor the White House have the final say. The people have the final say as to how they are governed. Anyone who doubts this fact need only look to the Declaration of Independence where our Founding Fathers state the people have the right to alter or abolish the government and replace it with another government.

The Constitution doesn't allow any branch to determine unilaterally what is and is not Constitutional. The Constitution is an unambiguous document that does not suddenly change at the whim of any branch of government, unless the people give their consent. It specifically cites the powers granted to federal and state governments.
29 posted on 07/24/2010 11:45:37 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Will88

It is to the point now that someone with a REAL emergency may die in the emergency waiting room before they get any care.


30 posted on 07/25/2010 6:24:57 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
And even if they did retake both chambers, the GOP leadership seems just fine with maintaining the status-quo:

Eric Cantor and John Boehner Don’t Really Want to Repeal Obamacare
31 posted on 07/25/2010 10:49:18 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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That’s appalling, but they’re only two men. If Republicans win Congress, enough phone calls and protests will make them vote for repeal.


32 posted on 07/25/2010 10:55:27 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: Man50D
"The people have the final say as to how they are governed. Anyone who doubts this fact need only look to the Declaration of Independence where our Founding Fathers state the people have the right to alter or abolish the government and replace it with another government. "

(Cue up Supertramp "Dreamer".) The sad fact is that the citizens have given up their rights. The dream to follow the right you mentioned of"to alter or abolish the government and replace it with another government" would get you in jail now.

So unless you can show me a couple of examples of the citizenry successfully doing that there is nothing more to talk about. That is a pure dream that can not be exercised in the reality of today's America.

Rush (the group)
33 posted on 07/25/2010 4:59:13 PM PDT by JSteff (((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)))
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To: Man50D
"The people have the final say as to how they are governed. Anyone who doubts this fact need only look to the Declaration of Independence where our Founding Fathers state the people have the right to alter or abolish the government and replace it with another government. "

(Cue up Supertramp "Dreamer".) The sad fact is that the citizens have given up their rights. The dream to follow the right you mentioned of"to alter or abolish the government and replace it with another government" would get you in jail now.

So unless you can show me a couple of examples of the citizenry successfully doing that there is nothing more to talk about. That is a pure dream that can not be exercised in the reality of today's America.

Rush (the group)
34 posted on 07/25/2010 4:59:50 PM PDT by JSteff (((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)))
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To: JSteff
The sad fact is that the citizens have given up their rights.

Tell that to the growing grassroots tea party movement.

The dream to follow the right you mentioned of"to alter or abolish the government and replace it with another government" would get you in jail now.

That's not much of a risk considering we're already losing our Constitutional freedoms.

So unless you can show me a couple of examples of the citizenry successfully doing that there is nothing more to talk about.

You must either have a short memory or don't read history. Ever hear of Martin Luther King Jr and his successful Civil Rights movement? How about Ghandi and his success with civil disobedience in India against the British? Keep talking.
35 posted on 07/25/2010 7:09:40 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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