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The Obama-Pelosi Lame Duck Strategy (Union 'card-check,' cap and trade, and so much more)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 07/09/10 | John Fund

Posted on 07/08/2010 6:59:37 PM PDT by AtlasStalled

Democratic House members are so worried about the fall elections they're leaving Washington on July 30, a full week earlier than normal—and they won't return until mid-September. Members gulped when National Journal's Charlie Cook, the Beltway's leading political handicapper, predicted last month "the House is gone," meaning a GOP takeover. He thinks Democrats will hold the Senate, but with a significantly reduced majority.

The rush to recess gives Democrats little time to pass any major laws. That's why there have been signs in recent weeks that party leaders are planning an ambitious, lame-duck session to muscle through bills in December they don't want to defend before November. Retiring or defeated members of Congress would then be able to vote for sweeping legislation without any fear of voter retaliation.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2010; democrats; duck; lame; lameduck; obama; pelosi; strategy
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1 posted on 07/08/2010 6:59:39 PM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled

T R E A S O N


2 posted on 07/08/2010 7:00:57 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Take back our country on November 2, 2010.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Thanks AtlasStalled.
National Journal's Charlie Cook, the Beltway's leading political handicapper, predicted last month "the House is gone," meaning a GOP takeover. He thinks Democrats will hold the Senate, but with a significantly reduced majority.

3 posted on 07/08/2010 7:03:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: AtlasStalled

I’m sensing Bela is becoming paranoid...she’s been very quiet the last two weeks......and an email she put out asking for donations for her “defense fund” is telling......


4 posted on 07/08/2010 7:03:51 PM PDT by Doogle (IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN....PLEASE donate, because it's the RIGHT thing to do)
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To: AtlasStalled

Repubs need to hang together - especially those 41 in the Senate.

And a clever incoming House Speaker might have a chat with our young president, inquiring if the president wants to get ANYTHING done in the next two years.


5 posted on 07/08/2010 7:08:09 PM PDT by BAW (Arizona.got it right.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I M P E A C H M E N T !


6 posted on 07/08/2010 7:11:36 PM PDT by cranked
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To: AtlasStalled

And without 2/3’s of both houses to override a Veto, you won’t be able to repeal any of it.

Have a nice day. :)

....seriously though, :(


7 posted on 07/08/2010 7:11:49 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: AtlasStalled

If that happens, Republicans should pass whatever funding is required, force a vote on a repeal of the lame duck session laws, and then shut down the government until Obama cooperates.


8 posted on 07/08/2010 7:16:09 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: AtlasStalled

Maybe they could repeal NAFTA ...


9 posted on 07/08/2010 7:18:08 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Brewer for President 2012)
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To: cranked

paging Darryl Issa, please pick up the white impeachment hearings telephone.


10 posted on 07/08/2010 7:18:12 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: AtlasStalled

I’d say the one up side is that it would endanger the remaining Democrats two years later. Not much of an up side though, because it would also doom the economy.


11 posted on 07/08/2010 7:18:29 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: Tzimisce

The House, however, controls the purse strings.

If the rats pass legislation in the Lame Duck session that the new Congress disagrees with, the new Congress....meaning, the House of Representatives....should refuse to fund the new programs passed during the Lsme Duck session.


12 posted on 07/08/2010 7:18:42 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The rallying cry of American patriots.....REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!)
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To: Tzimisce

They can de-fund any program. FUBO


13 posted on 07/08/2010 7:21:08 PM PDT by bfree (The revolution is coming and it will be violent--FUBO)
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To: AtlasStalled

Oh, they are SO wrong about the voter retaliation part.

To borrow a line from Gandalf, YOU...shall not PASS!!!!!!

OK, having said that, what is the legal game plan that can overcome yet another dirty trick post-election?


14 posted on 07/08/2010 7:21:44 PM PDT by SueRae (I can see November from my HOUSE!)
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To: AtlasStalled
Mitch better grow pair. It's gonna be up to him to stop all this. Time to bring on that total shutdown Senate Republicans promised to invoke after the outrageous abuse of reconciliation.

Fortunately McConnell apparently has the necessary parliamentary skills, and doesn't have to worry about reelection himself until 2014.

Do it in December, Mitch. SHUT HER DOWN! Nothing, NOTHING, gets done, nothing gets passed.

15 posted on 07/08/2010 7:22:10 PM PDT by Stultis (Democrats. Still devoted to the three S's: Slavery, Segregation and Socialism.)
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To: AtlasStalled

There is one little word they may not like....Fillibuster! They only have 57 votes in the Senate now and can’t pass anything if the other side stands strong and together. Too late you lose. They can pass whatever they want in the house it will never make it through the Senate.


16 posted on 07/08/2010 7:22:50 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Tzimisce
They will be too busy dodging subpoenas and facing Senate and House investigations, followed by Articles of Impeachment... I know it seems unlikely but there is a growing movement in DC for this to happen. This came from someone that works there.

LLS

17 posted on 07/08/2010 7:27:05 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Thank you for the info! Hope it’s reliable.


18 posted on 07/08/2010 7:30:31 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: bfree

Would our guys really have the balls to do that?

With Keith Olbermann dragging an endless parade of victims before his cameras?

People surprise me all the time, I’m just saying.


19 posted on 07/08/2010 7:32:15 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: onyx

I am praying... at least some are talking about it.

LLS


20 posted on 07/08/2010 7:43:20 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: AtlasStalled
Retiring or defeated members of Congress would then be able to vote for sweeping legislation without any fear of voter retaliation.

Go for it!

21 posted on 07/08/2010 7:49:15 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo

The lame duck concern is being over-hyped. There will be plenty of Senate RATS who are already at risk for 2012 and will not consent to an aggressive lame duck session, particularly as they witness the GOP gaining around 7 Senate seats in November. These RATS will be terrified. Ben Nelson is a good example; he’s already running for re-election, oblivious to the fact that he is toast due to his unforgiveable health care vote.


22 posted on 07/08/2010 7:57:32 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
The House, however, controls the purse strings. If the rats pass legislation in the Lame Duck session that the new Congress disagrees with, the new Congress....meaning, the House of Representatives....should refuse to fund the new programs passed during the Lsme Duck session.

Aside from subpoena power and endless investigations into the MARXISTS, our strongest weapon will be to defund everything even if it means shutting down the District of Corruption like happened in 1995. We need GOPers that will show their spine, and not want to march across the ailse for bipartisanship - that is not the way the RAT party plays the game. WE MUST GET ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD IF WE ARE TO STOP THE boy king.
23 posted on 07/08/2010 8:09:10 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: LibLieSlayer
They will be too busy dodging subpoenas and facing Senate and House investigations, followed by Articles of Impeachment... I know it seems unlikely but there is a growing movement in DC for this to happen. This came from someone that works there.

The ABUSES and HORRIFYING ATTEMPTED DISMANTLING OF AMERICA insists on these events.

Hate to say it, but this is also the last black President I will see in my lifetime. Obama spoiled it for a good black man.

24 posted on 07/08/2010 8:11:08 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: cranked; ExTexasRedhead

JUSTICE!


25 posted on 07/08/2010 8:19:33 PM PDT by Gator113 (God save the Republic.....)
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To: BAW

“Repubs need to hang together - especially those 41 in the Senate”

I believe they will hold together. The session is only for like a month, and WE will need to hold their feet to the fire, but after the shallacking the Dems take in November, the Repubs should have all the political backbone they need to block everything attempted during this lame-duck session.

Personally, I’m not too worried about it.


26 posted on 07/08/2010 8:46:59 PM PDT by lquist1
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To: AtlasStalled

The republicans should have enough votes to shut down the Senate during that time, unless the bastards try to pass EVERYTHING via reconciliation.


27 posted on 07/08/2010 8:52:54 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: AtlasStalled
All they have to do is deem them passed and it's done.
28 posted on 07/08/2010 8:56:01 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: AtlasStalled

The Senate still has the power of the filibuster so I don’t see how anything really destructive can make it through.


29 posted on 07/08/2010 8:59:18 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: AtlasStalled
Amnesty is the most grievous lame duck threat, but John Fund can't mention that, because he's at the pro-Amnesty, Open Borders, WSJ.
30 posted on 07/08/2010 9:11:34 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Siena Dreaming

You know that push to bring all the “first responders”, the police, fire, paramedics, etc, all under one federal union? Well, Pelosi tacked it onto the military funding bill at the last minute after all debate was ended. It would take away all local control of police, fire and paramedics. The hiring, firing, pay and promotions would all be union controlled, based on union seniority. They could sent inner city, former gang bangers to serve in your local fire house or police station, all the while demanding the same wages for the small town officer as for the NYC patrol man. You will love it.


31 posted on 07/08/2010 9:12:50 PM PDT by Eva (Aand)
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To: AtlasStalled

Card Check is so awful that even the Dems secretly don’t want to pass it. Dems continue to pay it lip service though as they want the Union campaign donations to keep rolling in. What happens when the Union bosses realize that the Dem double-talkers have played them for schmucks?


32 posted on 07/08/2010 9:16:28 PM PDT by purplelobster
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To: AtlasStalled

Any lame ducks that try this stuff better find new names, professions and places to live.


33 posted on 07/08/2010 9:23:48 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (See You in November)
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To: AtlasStalled
Subpoena. Threaten to subpoena. That's something a majority has that a minority doesn't.

First in line....Franklin Raines of Fannie and Freddie.

34 posted on 07/08/2010 9:53:04 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Cameras, cameras--never forget to bring your cameras)
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To: AtlasStalled
That's OK.

The new Congress doesn't have to fund ANY of it.

35 posted on 07/08/2010 9:53:33 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: AtlasStalled

“Retiring or defeated members of Congress would then be able to vote for sweeping legislation without any fear of voter retaliation.”

That remains to be seen. Some of the scum had better build themselves bunkers.


36 posted on 07/08/2010 9:59:31 PM PDT by unkus
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To: bfree

“They can de-fund any program.”

That’s going to be the key. FUBO!!!


37 posted on 07/08/2010 10:01:55 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Stultis

“Fortunately McConnell apparently has the necessary parliamentary skills, and doesn’t have to worry about reelection himself until 2014.”

If he does the right thing, he’ll get re-elected in a landslide.


38 posted on 07/08/2010 10:03:32 PM PDT by unkus
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To: LibLieSlayer
"They will be too busy dodging subpoenas and facing Senate and House investigations, followed by Articles of Impeachment... I know it seems unlikely but there is a growing movement in DC for this to happen. This came from someone that works there."

I am hoping this specter (investigations and criminal prosecution) hangs over Democrats in Congress who attempt a scorched earth policy of legislation. The wrong thing to do when the pot is boiling is to turn up the stove to full.

39 posted on 07/08/2010 10:15:43 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: chris_bdba

Well, there is that nuclear option thing, and of course, there are many RINOS among the Republicans, and some of them will just have been reelected. Therefore, they may not be so worried about the voters back home anymore. I can already feel the stab in the back.


40 posted on 07/08/2010 10:19:41 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk
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To: AtlasStalled

The House can pass all the desperate lame duck legislation they want, but it will die in the Senate with not so much as a whimper.


41 posted on 07/09/2010 2:46:45 AM PDT by counterpunch (Heckuva job, Barry!)
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To: Lazamataz

obama has screwed up more than that... but I understand what you are saying. It also has shown the racism on behalf of the 91% of blacks that voted for him and the 91% that apporove of what he is doing today... the curtain has been pulled back and long-hidden racism has been brought into the light.

LLS


42 posted on 07/09/2010 4:20:47 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: Tench_Coxe

I agree.

LLS


43 posted on 07/09/2010 4:22:49 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: AtlasStalled

Please, Democrats. Do it! Healthcare legislation has killed most of your chances of getting elected and if you pass any legislation against the people you will pay in November and in 2012.

The Democrats will be the minority party for 50 years if they try anything like this.


44 posted on 07/09/2010 4:50:06 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: AtlasStalled

This is the democrat party version of Scorched Earth, and I hope conservatives and republicans everywhere refer to it as such, and keep doing so. Let Americans see what happens when you let democrats have control of anything.


45 posted on 07/09/2010 5:12:51 AM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to abdicate control of it to the government)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I think members of Congress who try this lame duck crap should be held PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for their vote even after they leave office.


46 posted on 07/09/2010 6:08:36 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: LibLieSlayer
They will be too busy dodging subpoenas and facing Senate and House investigations, followed by Articles of Impeachment... I know it seems unlikely but there is a growing movement in DC for this to happen. This came from someone that works there.

That's the best news I've had in a long time. Can you please elaborate a bit without endangering anyone?

47 posted on 07/09/2010 6:11:25 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: thethirddegree; Candor7; MestaMachine; ElkGroveDan; WhatNot; Know et al; al baby; Joe Boucher; ...

The American people must demand Special Prosecutors to investigate this obvious political collusion designed to destroy our country. Madoff could use some cell mates to spend his days with while they all rot in their cells together.


48 posted on 07/09/2010 6:14:08 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Take back our country on November 2, 2010.)
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To: BAW
And a clever incoming House Speaker might have a chat with our young president, inquiring if the president wants to get ANYTHING done in the next two years.

What a strong Speaker of the House would say is, "Thank you for your opinion Mr. President, but according to the U.S. Constitution, it is the Legislative Branch that has the power to create law. Your responsibilities and powers are clearly enumerated within the same document, and I would highly encourage that you take the time to read it."

49 posted on 07/09/2010 8:36:03 AM PDT by voicereason (I Don't Need SEX...I Get Screwed By Democrats Everyday!!!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
Beat me to it, but I`d give them a budget all right, like 1 whole penny. Tell me, if you get REALLY CRAPPY service by a total b*tch of a $#*tty worthless waitress, do you, (a) leave a good tip, (b) no tip, or (c) leave a couple of pennies to make a point? (Like that's all you`re worth)
50 posted on 07/09/2010 3:48:20 PM PDT by nomad
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