Of Beck and the Birchers (is there an internecine warfare on the right?)

National Review ^ | 06/27/2010 | Daniel Foster

[Frantzie]

Beck like his buddy O’Reilly has “seen” the one’s BC. He “ain’t no” conservative. He is an entertainer.

[AAABEST]

I didn't need Beck to tell me that the Weak-ly Standard is a POS that isn't worth the paper it's printed on. It was obvious to many of us years ago and is made clear nearly every time guys like Barnes and Kristol open their mouths.

It's also obvious to their potential market. The entire operation was sold for a 1 million bucks not too long ago because nobody buys the things.

[RoadTest]

” I think that the unique political culture of America means that European-style totalitarianism would have a much tougher time gaining ground here.”

How can that be if Pelosi, Reid and Obama decide to shove it through Congress in the night of during a recess and, if it doesn’t win, “deem” it “passed”?

[Tex-Con-Man]

I appreciate what Beck does, and am so grateful that he doesn’t waste one minute on the idiotic BC issue.

[RoadTest]

“the as-yet amorphous Tea Party movement must lead with free-markets and small-government”

Excellent idea. I’m for it. But has the author (Daniel Foster?) forgotten that a Muslim Socialist sits at our controls pushing any button that suits him (arbitrarily declaring statutes out of his mouth and taking the ax to free market enterprises, large and small, one by one) - and he still has over two years of this to go. And Congress supports him and calls anybody who disagrees a “smart a__”. And the media fawn over him.

[lionheart 247365]

BECK is a Patriot of the highest order ,,,, he may be entertaining if you agree with him and his prespective , but if you’re a member of the regime right now you’re not laughing . Beck is the bamster’s TRANSPARENCY CZAR .

[RoadTest]

That was the Vice President I quoted at the last there, not Congress.

[SoFloFreeper]

...the as-yet amorphous Tea Party movement must lead with free-markets and small-government, not conspiracy theories and doom-saying.

I agree 110%.

[AppyPappy]

“Whatever you think of Theodore Roosevelt”

Beck mention FDR, not Teddy. Hello!

[matthew fuller]

Mark for later reference and retrieval.
Mon.,Jun 28, 2010- A day that will live in glory. (SCOTUS ruling).

[Zionist Conspirator]

The Birch theory is essentially that the Hamiltonian political tradition in America is the Secret Power Behind Communism, meaning that the USSR was run from America rather than the other way round. If this were the case, why would the Russians have ever had to have spies over here? There is also a whiff of late nineteenth century populism, whose villains were identical to those of the Birchers though their economics were the diametrical opposite.

Let me state that despite my detestation of the Birchers (having once been one), it is certainly undeniable that the Hamiltonian tradition has been radicalized. The Eastern Liberal Establishment was, after all, once the Conservative Eastern Establishment, but now its foundations support the most radical ideologies and ideologues. Furthermore the loss of Hamiltonian conservatism has made conservatism a Jeffersonian monopoly. Ironically, in his day Jefferson was considered a dangerous radical.

Perhaps the Right should make an effort (however Quixotic it may appear) to appeal to the Old Hamiltinians and bring them back. They were conservative once; they could conceivably become so again. At any rate, to write them off while making appeals to the ACLU and anarchists is the height of hypocrisy.

[SeekAndFind]

Mon.,Jun 28, 2010- A day that will live in glory. (SCOTUS ruling).

Which begs another question, can a later SCOTUS overturn a previous SCOTUS' ruling ? ( Remember, we have over 2 years of Obama's presidency and there is still ( God forbid ) a chance that he might nominate 2 more justices ).

[Oratam]

". . . Woodrow Wilson was not Stalin. The philosophical foundations of progressivism may be wrong. The policies that progressivism generates may be counterproductive. Its view of the Constitution may betray the Founders’. Nevertheless, progressivism is a distinctly American tradition that partly came into being as a way to prevent ideologies like communism and fascism from taking root in the United States."

"Socialism is Communism sold by the drink."
--P.J. O'Rourke

[10Ring]

Sure...Plessy v. Ferguson...even though Plessy was a 7 to 1 decision, it was overturned

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

It is an Illuminati conspiracy of secret societies intent on imposing global socialism and a depopulation agenda. Every adult male (with any intelligence) who has interacted with the people from these secret societies knows that they are involved in a conspiracy to impose socialism and population control. They are quite open about it. Obama's "science czar" has written a book promoting that, suggesting they dope the water supply to sterilize people, which makes the Carroll Quigley and Gary Allen stuff sound rather tame. Only shameless apologists for the conspiracy and the secret societies, or those with their head in the sand for the last 40 years, try to pooh-pooh this. Call them whatever you like. Obama is the front man and puppet of a conspiracy to impose Fabian Socialism and population control (and has already funded the latter ALL OVER THE WORLD, contributing more to the national debt for this crackpot Malthusian agenda).

He was created by the secret power cabals to be unleashed as their Frankenstein monster and Manchurian Candidate to impose this agenda, even whooping up the hysteria of the fake Swine Flu pandemic for his handlers and benefactors just last year. The Frankfurt School and glad-handing secret society wackos at Harvard Law programmed this kook who is now bankrupting the country. Watch for their next attempt to impose a dangerous, experimental, population control vaccine on the public. That there is now a systematic campaign to try to deny these obvious and provable facts as the mere "theory" of fringe Mormon writers and neurotic Princeton historians shows you how panicked the globalist elite and their secret society stooges have become by the embarrassing disasters of their presidential puppet in his second year of Alinskyite cognitive dissonance and narcissistic dissociation )which have raised the eyebrows of even the most centrist psychotherapists and mainstream liberals). Make no mistake, they mean to destroy the American economy, impose Fabian Socialism, and depopulate you and several billion other human beings on this planet.

"Most of us believe socialism is what the socialists want us to believe it is - a share-the-wealth program. That is the theory. But is that how it works?... If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth program, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead it becomes the logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs. Communism, or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite." - Gary Allen, None Dare Call It Conspiracy

[SeekAndFind]

Sure...Plessy v. Ferguson...even though Plessy was a 7 to 1 decision, it was overturned

Well, so much for all these talk about STARE DECISIS. They pay lip service to it when in fact, matters are never really settled.

[Matchett-PI]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2543018/posts?page=27#27

[wideawake]

The old Hamiltonian mindset was still far less "big government" than the current Roosevelt model.

The original Jeffersonian model - a nation of practically government-free agriculturalists living in blissful isolation from the problems of the outside world - was always a backward-looking ideal.

Few Jeffersonians realize the inherent tension between this classic caricature of Jeffersonianism and the real-life Jefferson who was an excited advocate of the statist and centralizing French Revolution.

Hamilton's program: a pro-business federal government with a modern military, active engagement in international affairs and a diverse economy retains not only its appeal, but its practicality - while the Jeffersonian model is a pre-industrial idyll and the Rooseveltian model's ultimate fate has recently been illustrated in Greece.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Hamilton's program: a pro-business federal government with a modern military, active engagement in international affairs and a diverse economy retains not only its appeal, but its practicality

True, but my point was that the old Hamiltonian East Coast Establishment, at some point, made a sharp left turn, outflanking its populist opponents and leaving conservatism as a Jeffersonian monopoly.

Do you think the old Hamiltonian East Coast Establishment can be appealed to or salvaged in any way?