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Missing Teen sailor Abby Sunderland rescued by French fishermen in Indian Ocean
Times Online ^ | 06/12/2010 | Raf Sanchez and Sophie Tedmanson

Posted on 06/12/2010 5:33:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

She hadn’t even reached the worst part of her journey yet. And if it was supposed to be nonstop, it wouldn’t have counted because she had already stopped in South Africa.


41 posted on 06/12/2010 7:01:21 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: Boris99
Don't be ridiculous, of course I'm not equating her trip with fighting for your country.

Actually, you did.

Post 22: 16 yo boys that lied about their age went ashore at Normandy, so I'm not sure why everyone is so upset about this girl that accepted the risk of an incredible adventure.

They were doing something noble. Her act was purely out of self interest.

I think she is a great example of American spirit.

If you're into the "It's all about ME" group.

42 posted on 06/12/2010 7:01:39 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Lucky Somali pirates didn’t get to her first.


43 posted on 06/12/2010 7:06:37 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Dogfaced Soldier
However, she was an experienced sailor, from a family with considerable sailing experience and took many prudent precautions for this type of adventure.

I bet they had never tried to sail the Indian Ocean in winter before. I'm sure this young lady was a very capable sailor but the high seas in winter is no place for anyone in a small sailboat.

44 posted on 06/12/2010 7:06:54 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You’re right she should have just stayed at home.


45 posted on 06/12/2010 7:10:34 AM PDT by Boris99
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To: SeekAndFind

This girl is an inspiration to young and old.

Would that more 16 year olds would step into the arena of life and attempt great things instead of squandering their precious lives away with video games and indoctrination into the herd to serve as little more than unquestioning ‘units of labor’ for some filthy globalist.

In a world of dependent 40 year old man-childs and silly 50 year old ‘girls’, She serves as a reminder of what it used to mean to be a free and sovereign human being.


46 posted on 06/12/2010 7:13:00 AM PDT by InternetTuffGuy
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To: SampleMan

Thank a well built boat, technology and some Frenchmen.


47 posted on 06/12/2010 7:16:02 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Sometimes you have to go to dark places to get to the light....)
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To: Boris99
You’re right she should have just stayed at home.

Yes. She should. She did nothing heroic. The Captain of the vessel that rescued her fell overboard during the rescue and HE had to be rescued because of rough weather. Without all her technology aboard, she'd have been lost. The Indian Ocean in winter is no place to be, alone, in a sailboat.

"But veteran Australian sailor Ian Kiernan echoed the concerns of others that she would be sailing through the Indian Ocean when weather conditions would be at their most treacherous. "I don't know what she's doing in the Southern Ocean as a 16-year-old in the middle of winter," said Mr Kiernan, who himself has sailed solo around the world. "It's just foolhardy".

48 posted on 06/12/2010 7:20:11 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: InternetTuffGuy
AMen.

If it were not for some of these “it's all about me” selfish types we would still be sitting in Europe fighting plague.

Thank God Columbus, the Pilgrims, Jamestown settlers and others were so self centered as to strike out on new adventures.

As for this girl and her folks, she was too prepared and from what I read was calm cool and collected if not a little wet and cold for her to be some ignorant little girl thrown selfishly on a boat by her parents.

Thank God that spirit is not dead, just dormant. Sad that kids sitting getting fat safely playing video games seems to be preferred by many.

49 posted on 06/12/2010 7:25:19 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: Boris99

no.. she should get a couple of partners and:
1. Hike along the Iranian border
2. interview North Koreans on the Chinese border
3. wander around the Pakistan country-side.
4. head towards guatemla,cuba,columbia,vietnam
Mayanmar-

There is plenty of adventure left for this girl.


50 posted on 06/12/2010 7:29:00 AM PDT by mj1234
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To: depenzz
It's really not that impressive. Back in the day, the type of person that built our country probably wouldn't have seriously thought of trying to circumnavigate the globe solo because they'd know it would be all but actual suicide.

They didn't have composite hulls that were basically unsinkable. There were no emergency beacons. Navigation was a well-honed skill because it was by sextet, not GPS. There were no weather forecasts. No satellite phones. When you got in trouble there was no aircraft that would be out homing in on your position within a few hours.

Back then - in the same circumstances - she'd already be dead.

I'm not tearing her down, I'm just not going to romanticize her trip.

51 posted on 06/12/2010 7:31:51 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Those who RISK THEIR LIVES for the greater good of mankind: fighting for freedom, saving others, etc should be- and are- prepared to lose them.
Those who CHOOSE to RISK THEIR LIVES for personal glory, dares, a place in the record books or thrills should be PREPARED TO LOSE them as well.
She made a life-risking choice. Her parents LET her( a minor) make that LIFE RISKING choice.
Why should anyone presume to save her from that choice?

We don’t ‘save’ soldiers who get terrified in battle and change their minds about what they are doing.

Call me hard- I admit I am about this.
Your choice to risk your life shouldn’t require someone else to risk theirs to save you from the result of your decisions.
You put it on the table willingly( no doubt stupidly) , then you ante up when the game turns against you.
If you expect rescue from your own recklessness then you are no brave adventurer.
Life is a high price to pay for ego and 15 minutes of fame.


52 posted on 06/12/2010 7:35:17 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: InternetTuffGuy
I have noticed a common argument on these threads is that what Abby did was heroic and “all American” and failing to allow your teen to follow their bold adventurous dreams in the same fashion will result in an irresponsible adult who only plays video games in their parents basement. It is very one dimensional thinking to believe that the only way to raise a child to be bold and capable of facing adversity is to send them on some dangerous adventure.
53 posted on 06/12/2010 7:37:14 AM PDT by happyhomemaker (That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children)
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To: ClearBlueSky

I can’t go along with not rescuing her but there needs to be consequences for some very poor choices, one of them being the Indian Ocean in winter.


54 posted on 06/12/2010 7:39:06 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: ken21

re: whatta parental ego trip

Exactly!


55 posted on 06/12/2010 7:41:24 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: happyhomemaker

Thank You!
This was about ‘adventure’ on a global stage. She’s obviously not one for quiet heroics. She doesn’t want to work with the homeless, helping save one life at a time, or motivate change in her community? There are countless ways to become famous- since that is the ultimate desire here- that would have been life-affirming, not life endangering.
She- and her family- are obviously the ‘make the news’ type. They wanted fame for fame’s sake; celebrity status.

People of true daring and desire to benefit mankind- NOT THEMSELVES- can find ways to distinguish themselves.
Life is precious. To risk it for celebrity status, ego and mention on the evening news is a sin, IMO.


56 posted on 06/12/2010 7:45:22 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: ClearBlueSky
risk your life shouldn’t require someone else to risk theirs to save you from the result of your decisions.

I see a lot of attention for this one brave young woman. What about the tens of thousands of 17 year old breeding machines popping out brats that society has to pay for. They cost much more than this young woman. And you never hear the press complaining about their parents.

/johnny

57 posted on 06/12/2010 7:53:10 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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I’d be concerned about a 16 year old on a boat with fishermen who may have been at sea for weeks.

If a 16-year-old gal can't handle being around some randy deck hads on a fishing boat whose captain nearly killed himself in her rescue, then she sure as hell shouldn't have attempted the sailboat excursion in the first place. Methinks this gal can handle the fishermen just fine. They're not all animals, you know.

I come from a family of commercial fishermen. I didn't know whether to laugh, cry, or slap you upside the head at your "concern."

58 posted on 06/12/2010 7:54:33 AM PDT by Finny
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I was really more interested in the fabric of the person, ‘0le Davy Crocket and Daniel Boone and Lewis and Clark, etc had some of the same fabric as Miss Sutherland.


59 posted on 06/12/2010 8:09:34 AM PDT by depenzz (Its what you learn after you know it all that counts.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Are they not much the same?
Making decisions and expecting ‘society’ to rescue them from them?
Promiscuous women breeding like lab mice expecting- and getting- ‘rescue’ from the government is bad. No question.
But STUPID people risking their lives for EGO- and expecting ‘rescue’ is just as bad.
Sure hundreds of thousands cost more than a few- but it’s the SAME MINDSET.
Most welfare mothers are too stupid to see beyond the ‘free money’. This girl and her parents don’t have ignorance as an excuse. They are media-whores.
And welfare mothers aren’t trying to make CNN when they get pregnant. At least the $$ given to raise illegitimate children might contribute to society in the end when some of the children rise above their upbringing and contribute to society.
What would this foolish girls success have added to humanity? NOTHING. And her failure COST.

If this 16 year old girl was being allowed and encouraged to do something LIFE THREATENING by her parents in your community, or mine, simply for celebrity status( drag racing, jumping off buildings or staying home alone in a Cat 5 hurricane!)- how many Freepers would be in favor of it?
Sorry- IMO this is no different than those parents who put the kid up in the balloon to become famous for a reality show. Was anyone praising the daring ‘American spirit’ then? Why not?
Because it was ENDANGERING a MINOR for publicity and personal fame.
SAME THING.


60 posted on 06/12/2010 8:27:16 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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