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Exclusive: Are the Turks Preparing for War Against Israel?
FamilySecurityMatters.org ^ | June 1, 2010 | Paul Williams, PhD

Posted on 06/01/2010 1:41:06 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta

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To: Fred Hayek

“One outcome could indeed be another coup by the Turkish military to restore secular rule.”

Ding ding ding,,, we have a winner.


41 posted on 06/01/2010 2:45:34 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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I can't help but wonder if Turkey is looking to challenge Iran by bringing back the "Ottoman Empire," as the leader of the muslim caliphate. Iran will have nukes, but Turkey may be trying to gain a following by demonizing Israel.

Mark

42 posted on 06/01/2010 2:48:31 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

sounds like they are swinging towards the Islamic orbit (as there soon won’t likely be an EU for them to worry about joining)


43 posted on 06/01/2010 2:52:47 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MarkL

Hmmmm,,, interesting take. Because all Turkey really has to do is stand by and watch as the Iranians and Israelis duke it out.

Turkey really isn’t involved here and is sorta forcing it’s way in. Also, anyone have any ideas as to whether or not Turkey is anything like Greece financially? States with crappy financial situations often look to the warpath for a solution.


44 posted on 06/01/2010 2:54:07 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: sonofstrangelove; jhpigott; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; SunkenCiv; MestaMachine

*ping*


45 posted on 06/01/2010 2:55:59 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: blam; FromLori; DesertRhino

Anyone happen to know if Turkey is as financially precarious as the European ‘pigs’, (i.e. portugal, italy, greece, spain)?


46 posted on 06/01/2010 2:58:18 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: DesertRhino
Ezekiel used the word that widely meant the modern territory of “Russia” and “Turkey” in those days? That should be a simple matter of translation. Like calling France “Gaul” or some such,,, that basically your opinion??

Oh no, it's not my opinion. I get my information from people who spend their lives studying eschatology:

Ezekiel 38 & 39 (Part 2)

Ezekiel 38 & 39 (Part 3)

Ezekiel 38 & 39 (Part 4)

Ezekiel 38 & 39 (Part 5)

Now I'd be happy to hear exactly why these scholars are incorrect.

47 posted on 06/01/2010 3:02:03 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: TitansAFC
Kitchen cutlery and sticks equal arming terrorists?

You fear terrorists armed with kitchen cutlery and sticks?

48 posted on 06/01/2010 3:02:48 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: DesertRhino
Ezekiel 38 & 39 (Part 5)
49 posted on 06/01/2010 3:07:00 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

“Are the Turks Preparing for War Against Israel?”

Everybody over there is preparing for war against Israel!


50 posted on 06/01/2010 3:22:47 PM PDT by mark3681
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
If you like to waste time with people who play games with words, that is your time, but it all sounds pretty delusional to me. What about the Scythians, who were the actual people (not Slavic at all) who lived in southern Russia/Ukraine 3,000 years ago?

I think the Hebrew word "Rosh" means the Hebrew word "Rosh", which in turn means "head", as in Rosh Hashanah (Happy New Year).

Not to mention that the Russians have been at war against Muslim invaders for over 1,000 years (hint: the Mongols were Muslim after converting in 1260) and anyone who thinks Russia would have a civilizational alliance with the Muslims is proving that he or she literally knows nothing of Russian history.

51 posted on 06/01/2010 3:32:50 PM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: SunStar
"The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all

Read that section carefully. A response is only triggered if Turkey is attacked on its own soil. If Turkey sends a flotilla into Israeli territorial waters and it's sunk, Turkey is on its own.

An argument could be made that Turkey would be on its own even if it was attacked on its own soil, if that attack was a response to Turkish-initiated aggression.

I don't think the Turkish military is keen on getting into an armed showdown with Israel on Israel's own turf, regardless of what the politicians say.

52 posted on 06/01/2010 3:35:02 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: humblegunner
You fear terrorists armed with kitchen cutlery and sticks?

The implication of your post is that Israelis should not have fought to defend themselves when taking over the ship. I am NOT asking why you were suspended from FR the other day; it's pretty clear.

53 posted on 06/01/2010 3:35:15 PM PDT by Tax Government (Don't vote commie unless you ask your mommy.)
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To: wildandcrazyrussian
Did you read the links in posts 47 and 49?

You'll have to argue with the people who studied this and came to the conclusions they did about the origins of the nations listed in Ezekiel 38.

I really don't care about Russian history- I just care about Russia to the extent that they are in the process of doing just what God said they would and to the extent that they are stupidly walking into an extermination, courtesy of the God of Israel.

Other than that, I couldn't care less about Russian history.

54 posted on 06/01/2010 3:36:58 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Tax Government
I am NOT asking why you were suspended from FR the other day; it's pretty clear.

Well, if you check, I'm still banned.

Bummer, that. Downright bloody inconvenient.

55 posted on 06/01/2010 3:48:18 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Yeah, and if you read further Russia and the rest get their rear ends kicked. They will be buried in the valley of Hamon Gog. There will be Israeli crews hired to go around and flag where bones are to they can be buried in that valley, and it will take Israel seven years to do the clean up of the mess of bodies left from the failed attempt to destroy Israel.

Not smart to mess with the "Apple of God's eye". I plan on popping some popcorn and watching the show if that is what is about to happen.

56 posted on 06/01/2010 3:49:47 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
Exactly.

Israel will win both the imminent Psalm 83 war and the Ezekiel 38 and 39 war.

To go to war against Israel is to go to war against God- and only a suicidal fool starts a war with God.

57 posted on 06/01/2010 3:52:49 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
I find it VERY interesting how the quote you provided here ties in so smoothly with Zechariah 12....

12:2 "I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem.
3 On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves.
4 On that day I will strike every horse with panic and its rider with madness," declares the LORD. "I will keep a watchful eye over the house of Judah, but I will blind all the horses of the nations.
Note the use of the term "on that day" in BOTH sets of verses. I truly believe that day is nigh upon us.

Note Zechariah's statement that "ALL the nations of the Earth are gathered against Jerusalem"--I didn't think that would EVER include the United States of America yet look what we have done. ***sigh***

I do not want to see my nation, the land I love, be an enemy of God but it looks that way. We all need to pray to GOD to deliver us from this EVIL that is Obama! He sides with the Prince of Darkness. He imperils us who sides against Israel.*



* Genesis 12:3

58 posted on 06/01/2010 4:04:57 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
The Middle East is a time bomb ready to explode and the issue of peace and safety along with the Gaza problem will no doubt start the fuse.

And the The Won, who sits in the Oval Office, is on the wrong side, he's on the side that calls Israel only the "Little Satan". They call the US, "The Great Satan".

59 posted on 06/01/2010 4:07:18 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: MissAmericanPie

Don’t be so happy about it. Obama is taking us down the road where we too are counted as those nations AGAINST Israel.


60 posted on 06/01/2010 4:09:06 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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